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Old 03-14-2008, 11:15 AM   #181
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James Hardy~ he has size, speed, and he got it done in college. last year only Michael Crabtree had more TD's than he did. Under the right coaching and strength conditioning he could become a TO type player. he has the size he just need the strength.

Bobbie Williams of Buthune Cookman must be picked in the later rounds!!!
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Old 03-14-2008, 12:58 PM   #182
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i don't think jenkins or hardy make it to our spot. hardy had some off field issues too.

i like both and think both will start either this year or next year for SOME team, but probably not ours.
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Old 03-14-2008, 01:10 PM   #183
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i agree with the talib/campbell are over rated. i don't know cason well.

i like godfrey and porter, if you got any tape of them to look at. of course, i like DRC the most.
Porter is a good player, I saw him getting burned a few times as well, but not nearly as much as Talib. Porter's a physical CB who can play the run.

I'll take Flowers over Cason, Talib and Porter any day. I can see Flowers being a slower version of Antoine Winfield who ran a 4.41 at the combine.

But Talib ran a 4.44 and we all saw what K State WR Jordy Nelson did to him who ran a 4.51
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Old 03-15-2008, 08:22 PM   #184
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Prime examples are Devin Thomas, Jordy Nelson, and Adarius Bowman. They are all big, quick, aggressive, and play-making wide outs that can develop into the " #1" WR.

Especially Devin Thomas. Here is what ESPN's Scouts Inc. had to say about in their report. Pay attention to the last sentence.

Devin Thomas
WR | (6'2", 217, 4.51) | MICHIGAN STATE

Scouts Grade: 89

Strengths: Possesses adequate-to-good height with a sturdy build for a wide receiver. Very smooth and fluid. Displays outstanding hands. Can consistently catch over his head. Strong hands to pluck in traffic. Can snatch the ball on the run with very little wasted motion. Is a treat after the catch. Does not possess elite initial burst but he does display a second gear to run away from defenders once he gets going (see: 2nd quarter vs. Wisconsin). He is a silky-smooth runner with excellent vision and body control. Sees the entire field and shows the change-of-direction ability to make sharp cuts without losing speed. Is strong and will drag some defenders for extra yards after the catch. Was effective in the times we saw him take handoffs in the backfield and might have a future as a kick return man in the NFL. Has bulk and strength to sustain blocks when he?s in position. Also flashes a mean streak.

Weaknesses: More dangerous after the catch than he is as a vertical route runner. Lacks ideal experience at the highest collegiate level. Still needs polishing as a route-runner. Rounds off many of his routes. Not crisp enough to consistently separate from tight man-to-man coverage. Needs to improve his array of release moves versus press coverage at the line of scrimmage. Takes a bit too long to reach top speed. Doesn?t always sell routes on play-action runs. Can sustain his blocks once locked on but takes some poor angles and doesn't always get in good position. Effort as a blocker is inconsistent.

Overall: After proving his explosiveness and versatility by averaging 105.5 all-purpose yards at Coffeyville CC in 2005, Thomas enrolled at Michigan State. He played 10 games in his first season in East Lansing, but finished with just six receptions, 90 receiving yards and one touchdown. He broke out as a junior last season, playing in all 13 games and delivering 79 catches, eight TDs and a Big Ten-best 1,260 receiving yards for a Spartans offense that relied heavily on the run. He added 177 rushing yards on 27 carries and starred as a return man, averaging 29.1 on 39 kickoff returns. Compared to most prospects, there?s very little information to go off of when evaluating Thomas. He only played one year at the FBS level, and as an underclassman entry he was not able to compete in a post-season all-star game. His inexperience and lack of exposure naturally creates some doubt. However, the more film we study of Thomas the more impressed we are with his overall physical tools. He possesses the size, athleticism and hands of a future starter in the NFL, which is why we graded Thomas out in the second round. He will fit best in a West Coast system, where his run-after-catch ability will be maximized.

Whats up with everyones obsession with Devin Thomas, he sound like Brandon Llody II to me.
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Positives: NFL receiver build and long limbs. ... Gets his solid hands on the ball any way possible: reverses, bubble screens, returns. ... Quick in and out of breaks. ... Adjusts well to the ball in the air, usually snatching it with his hands. ... Quick acceleration after the catch, will rack up YAC. ... Runs solid routes, including slants inside -- and will hang onto the ball while taking the hit. ... Very willing blocker outside or in the slot on run plays, and he can eliminate the corner. ... Often lines up in the slot to take advantage of smaller nickel backs. ... Potential for a solid kick return option. ... Follows wedge, finds the lanes, gets to top speed quickly and does not go down on first contact.

Negatives: Only one productive year in major college football. ... Will need to prove he's a legitimate downfield threat. ... Doesn't always make the tough deep catch that the best receivers do. ... Tries to do too much at times, dancing after the catch instead of heading upfield. ... Could sustain better when blocking larger safeties and linebackers. Heres link:NFL Events: Combine Player Profiles - Devin Thomas
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Old 03-15-2008, 09:58 PM   #185
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What do y'all think of Jeff Otah?
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What do y'all think of Jeff Otah?
Didn't he run like a 5.5 in the 40, he was coming off an ankle injury, but 5.5 is pretty bad, if he dropped and we had signed hackett i would definitely take a hard look at him, just depends what the circumstances are.
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Old 03-15-2008, 10:07 PM   #187
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Didn't he run like a 5.5 in the 40, he was coming off an ankle injury, but 5.5 is pretty bad, if he dropped and we had signed hackett i would definitely take a hard look at him, just depends what the circumstances are.
Yeah, his 40 at the combine was awful. Still, how many OTs have to run a 40 yard dash
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Yeah, his 40 at the combine was awful. Still, how many OTs have to run a 40 yard dash
That's true, but don't you want your o-linemen to be able to get out in front some of the time, and you CP don't like to wait for his blockers.
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That's true, but don't you want your o-linemen to be able to get out in front some of the time, and you CP don't like to wait for his blockers.
Yeah, I mean I'm not saying we should go after him. Just saying if he's there at 21, how serious a look do we take?
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Yeah, I mean I'm not saying we should go after him. Just saying if he's there at 21, how serious a look do we take?
Well, I probably would pick him because of his outstanding play on an ok Pitt team, and he could be like Stephon Heyer and really improve with the tutilige of Joe Bugel.
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Old 03-16-2008, 03:12 AM   #191
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Hey I sent you an email today. Let's see if we can meet up sometime in the next couple of weeks. I'll give you a whole list of game clips to pull
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Hey I sent you an email today. Let's see if we can meet up sometime in the next couple of weeks. I'll give you a whole list of game clips to pull
one would think SS would have access to a bunch of college game tape on demand...
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DGreene has quicker access to it.
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Old 03-16-2008, 01:26 PM   #194
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We draft the best CB, DE, DT in this order.
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With the 21st overall pick in the 2008 draft the Washington Redskins select DB Mike Jenkins from the University of Southern Florida.
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