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Old 04-24-2008, 02:10 PM   #301
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I agree. It doesn't make sense to me, but that's the rumor. More likely is the Falcons wanting to trade up into the late first and jump past Miami. Especially since they've apparently already decided they are not taking a QB with the 3rd overall spot.
The best situation for us right now is if the Longs go first and second. In that case Atlanta will select Dorsey the Raiders will then select Gholston and the Chiefs might get Ryan. Afterwards you'll have the possiblity of Miami, Atlanta, and Baltimore all exploring options to trade up for a QB. Of course should the Chiefs contribute to a scarcity mindset by taking a QB at 17 then we could benefit from a team that wants to take the next QB.

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Old 04-24-2008, 03:23 PM   #302
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Final Mock Draft

All right, after months of useless preperation I have compiled my final Mock Draft.

1st - Phillip Merling - DE/DT - Clemson - The Redskins entourage was in full force for Merling's on campus workout, a site that was all to familiar to former 1st round pick Jason Campbell. Merling has everything the team is looking for in a D-lineman and would be an excellent compliment to Andre Carter.
Phillip Merling Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect
DL Phillip Merling College Highlights from Clemson - Mar. 6, 2008

2nd - Jordy Nelson - WR - Kansas State - The Redskins have shown a lot of interest in Nelson lately and with the 49ers being the only real threat to take Nelson in the 2nd, look for the team to end the madness among Redskin fans and make everyone forget that Anthony Mix ever existed. Don't be surprised if the team takes their 2nd and 3rd round picks to move up into the second in an attempt to draft Jordy. Of course now that I think about it the Eagles could be a threat to take Jordy as well. I would expect the team to trade up to the Jets spot in the second round.
Jordy Nelson Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect
YouTube - Inside K-State Sports - Jordy Nelson Highlight Video

3rd - Tony Hills - T/G - Texas - The Redskins get Derrick Dockery 2.0. Except this time he's more athletic. Unfortunately he comes with injury concerns but he's quick enough to pull and get out into the open field on screens. He can also play LT if duty calls. Of course this pick could just as easily be Roy Schuening or Jeramy Zutah should either of them fall. If the team tries to trade up in an effort to ensure that they get Jordy Nelson then look for Hills to be selected with the teams comp pick.
Tony Hills Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect
OL Tony Hills College Highlights from Texas - Mar. 10, 2008

3rd Comp - Owen Schmitt - FB - West Virginia - Man crushes run amuck and though I admit this pick is a reach I still believe the team will view Schmitt as the best player available. At the very least we'll get a special teams demon and at the best we'll get a guy who could easily become the best FB in the league.
Owen Schmitt Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect
YouTube - Tribute to Owen Schmitt

5th - Zach Bowman - CB - The Redskins go for another talented player with injury concerns. Bowman has the size and speed teams look for in a CB and at one point scouts considered him a possible first round pick, but injuries put an end to Bowman's 1st round aspirations. Regardless he seems to have retained his speed, clocking in at 4.38 during the combine.
Zack Bowman Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect

6th - Kevin O'Connell - QB - San Diego State - The Redskins get a talented developmental prospect with a good arm and the type of mobility that scouts look for in a west coast QB.
Kevin O'Connell Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect
YouTube - Kevin O'Connell - Hula Bowl 08

7th - Alvin Bowen - OLB - Iowa State - The Redskins add depth at OLB with Bowen. Bowen was one of the most productive college LB's the last two years. However if Corey Lynch somehow falls this far then look for the team to turn in their card ASAP.
Alvin Bowen Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect
LB Alvin Bowen College Highlights from Iowa State - Mar. 28, 2008

7th Comp - Andrew Crummy - C/G - Maryland - The Redskins get a quality local prospect that can play Center.
Andrew Crummey Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect

7th Comp - Marcus Dixon - DT/DE - Hampton - The Redskins find another local product to help out along the D-line.
Marcus Dixon Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect
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Old 04-24-2008, 04:34 PM   #303
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All right, after months of useless preperation I have compiled my final Mock Draft.

1st - Phillip Merling - DE/DT - Clemson - The Redskins entourage was in full force for Merling's on campus workout, a site that was all to familiar to former 1st round pick Jason Campbell. Merling has everything the team is looking for in a D-lineman and would be an excellent compliment to Andre Carter.
Phillip Merling Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect
DL Phillip Merling College Highlights from Clemson - Mar. 6, 2008

2nd - Jordy Nelson - WR - Kansas State - The Redskins have shown a lot of interest in Nelson lately and with the 49ers being the only real threat to take Nelson in the 2nd, look for the team to end the madness among Redskin fans and make everyone forget that Anthony Mix ever existed. Don't be surprised if the team takes their 2nd and 3rd round picks to move up into the second in an attempt to draft Jordy.
Jordy Nelson Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect
YouTube - Inside K-State Sports - Jordy Nelson Highlight Video

3rd - Tony Hills - T/G - Texas - The Redskins get Derrick Dockery 2.0. Except this time he's more athletic. Unfortunately he comes with injury concerns but he's quick enough to pull and get out into the open field on screens. He can also play LT if duty calls. Of course this pick could just as easily be Roy Schuening or Jeramy Zutah should either of them fall.
Tony Hills Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect
OL Tony Hills College Highlights from Texas - Mar. 10, 2008

3rd Comp - Owen Schmitt - FB - West Virginia - Man crushes run amuck and though I admit this pick is a reach I still believe the team will view Schmitt as the best player available. At the very least we'll get a special teams demon and at the best we'll get a guy who could easily become the best FB in the league.
Owen Schmitt Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect
YouTube - Tribute to Owen Schmitt

5th - Zach Bowman - CB - The Redskins go for another talented player with injury concerns. Bowman has the size and speed teams look for in a CB and at one point scouts considered him a possible first round pick, but injuries put an end to Bowman's 1st round aspirations. Regardless he seems to have retained his speed, clocking in at 4.38 during the combine.
Zack Bowman Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect

6th - Kevin O'Connell - QB - San Diego State - The Redskins get a talented developmental prospect with a good arm and the type of mobility that scouts look for in a west coast QB.
Kevin O'Connell Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect
YouTube - Kevin O'Connell - Hula Bowl 08

7th - Alvin Bowen - OLB - Iowa State - The Redskins add depth at OLB with Bowen. Bowen was one of the most productive college LB's the last two years. However if Corey Lynch somehow falls this far then look for the team to turn in their card ASAP.
Alvin Bowen Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect
LB Alvin Bowen College Highlights from Iowa State - Mar. 28, 2008

7th Comp - Andrew Crummy - C/G - Maryland - The Redskins get a quality local prospect that can play Center.
Andrew Crummey Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect

7th Comp - Marcus Dixon - DT/DE - Hampton - The Redskins find another local product to help out along the D-line.
Marcus Dixon Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect
After reading that ESPN article about Dixon he intrigues me, if we could get him in the 7th that would be pretty cool.
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After reading that ESPN article about Dixon he intrigues me, if we could get him in the 7th that would be pretty cool.
Yeah I'm not surprised that he went through that whole ordeal. Even though everyone in Georgia isn't racist, theres still a disturbing amount of people that are quick to judge other people based on their race. So after hearing about the father of the girl involved it's no wonder the kid ended up in a "To Kill a Mockingbird" type situation.
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The more film I see on him the more I like him and that is Calais Campbell, I would try and swap picks with san fran in the first rd for their second rd pick, I think there is a good chance that Campbell will still be avail. with the 29th pick in the first. I would then look to draft Jordy Nelson with that pick, and with our #2 I would hope that Chris Johnson of E.Carolina is still there, in the third rd I would do what I have to to secure OT Carl Nicks out of Nebraska, and with our comp third I would grab Frank Okam out of Texas he has tremendous upside for a late third rd pick. I think that would be a great draft for us.
Campbell, no way. He is very weak, only 13 reps. The rest of his combine performance was disappointing. His size is good but his strength and/or desire is lacking. BUST is written all over him.
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All right, after months of useless preperation I have compiled my final Mock Draft.

1st - Phillip Merling - DE/DT - Clemson - The Redskins entourage was in full force for Merling's on campus workout, a site that was all to familiar to former 1st round pick Jason Campbell. Merling has everything the team is looking for in a D-lineman and would be an excellent compliment to Andre Carter.
Phillip Merling Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect
DL Phillip Merling College Highlights from Clemson - Mar. 6, 2008

2nd - Jordy Nelson - WR - Kansas State - The Redskins have shown a lot of interest in Nelson lately and with the 49ers being the only real threat to take Nelson in the 2nd, look for the team to end the madness among Redskin fans and make everyone forget that Anthony Mix ever existed. Don't be surprised if the team takes their 2nd and 3rd round picks to move up into the second in an attempt to draft Jordy. Of course now that I think about it the Eagles could be a threat to take Jordy as well. I would expect the team to trade up to the Jets spot in the second round.
Jordy Nelson Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect
YouTube - Inside K-State Sports - Jordy Nelson Highlight Video

3rd - Tony Hills - T/G - Texas - The Redskins get Derrick Dockery 2.0. Except this time he's more athletic. Unfortunately he comes with injury concerns but he's quick enough to pull and get out into the open field on screens. He can also play LT if duty calls. Of course this pick could just as easily be Roy Schuening or Jeramy Zutah should either of them fall. If the team tries to trade up in an effort to ensure that they get Jordy Nelson then look for Hills to be selected with the teams comp pick.
Tony Hills Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect
OL Tony Hills College Highlights from Texas - Mar. 10, 2008

3rd Comp - Owen Schmitt - FB - West Virginia - Man crushes run amuck and though I admit this pick is a reach I still believe the team will view Schmitt as the best player available. At the very least we'll get a special teams demon and at the best we'll get a guy who could easily become the best FB in the league.
Owen Schmitt Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect
YouTube - Tribute to Owen Schmitt

5th - Zach Bowman - CB - The Redskins go for another talented player with injury concerns. Bowman has the size and speed teams look for in a CB and at one point scouts considered him a possible first round pick, but injuries put an end to Bowman's 1st round aspirations. Regardless he seems to have retained his speed, clocking in at 4.38 during the combine.
Zack Bowman Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect

6th - Kevin O'Connell - QB - San Diego State - The Redskins get a talented developmental prospect with a good arm and the type of mobility that scouts look for in a west coast QB.
Kevin O'Connell Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect
YouTube - Kevin O'Connell - Hula Bowl 08

7th - Alvin Bowen - OLB - Iowa State - The Redskins add depth at OLB with Bowen. Bowen was one of the most productive college LB's the last two years. However if Corey Lynch somehow falls this far then look for the team to turn in their card ASAP.
Alvin Bowen Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect
LB Alvin Bowen College Highlights from Iowa State - Mar. 28, 2008

7th Comp - Andrew Crummy - C/G - Maryland - The Redskins get a quality local prospect that can play Center.
Andrew Crummey Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect

7th Comp - Marcus Dixon - DT/DE - Hampton - The Redskins find another local product to help out along the D-line.
Marcus Dixon Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect
1st - Merling Agree
2nd - If Nelson is there, Agreed, but I don't think we reach for him. If he's gone Godfrey, CB Iowa will be the pick
3rd - Hills is too much of a reach. Whoever falls to this spot will be taken, in order: C. Rachal, G, USC, P. Sims, DT, Auburn (raw but has the tools and Blache will coach 'em up), Schuening, G, Or. St.
3rd - Comp Pick - No man-crushed FB here (LOL). E. Henderson, OLB, MD (plays SLB to back-up/replace Washington) or Nicks, T, Neb
5th - WR if we don't have Jordy. QB if we do.
You're way more thorough than me on the late rounds, but I do like Dixon from Hampton as a project. I read the article today and the kid is definitely mentally tough after all he's been through.

P.S. I'll NEVER forget Mix....He's the next Randy Moss, just bigger...but not as fast....not as good hands....hasn't produced at WR.......wait, who were we talking about?
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1st - Merling Agree
2nd - If Nelson is there, Agreed, but I don't think we reach for him. If he's gone Godfrey, CB Iowa will be the pick
3rd - Hills is too much of a reach. Whoever falls to this spot will be taken, in order: C. Rachal, G, USC, P. Sims, DT, Auburn (raw but has the tools and Blache will coach 'em up), Schuening, G, Or. St.
3rd - Comp Pick - No man-crushed FB here (LOL). E. Henderson, OLB, MD (plays SLB to back-up/replace Washington) or Nicks, T, Neb
5th - WR if we don't have Jordy. QB if we do.
You're way more thorough than me on the late rounds, but I do like Dixon from Hampton as a project. I read the article today and the kid is definitely mentally tough after all he's been through.
There is a chance that Rachel might drop to the third but I wouldn't count on it. Schuening could also be the guy, but theres about a 50% chance he'll be gone by 3-21. My 6th round pick might be a little off as O'Connell is now shooting up draft boards to where he could be drafted in the 4th but late round prospects are a little harder to project like for example last year Blades was projected as a 4th round pick and fell to us in the 6th round.

I do agree with EJ on the comp pick. If he falls there then I think the team will take him. Or even if he falls to 3-21 and the team ends up not liking the O-Line prospects left at that point then EJ could very well be the pick, as I'm starting to think our defense is slightly more LB orriented.

I do have a feeling that the team might trade up with the Jets again to grab Jordy, as Jordy seems to have made a favorable impression on the guys in Ashburn, in which case the Jets would recieve our 2-20 and our 3-21 but I've been wrong before. Then again they could also be shooting for Kelly but I'm hoping that the Cowboys draft that headache with their second 1st round pick.

However I believe that if Jordy falls to 51 and Merling is picked by the Skins at 21 then theres a 90% chance of Jordy Nelson being the pick. The teams I worry about in front of us are the 49ers, Eagles, Saints, Cardinals, and the.....Lions. As the 49ers will take BPA in the 1st round, Eagles won't draft a 1st round reciever, Saints are somehow still looking for another reciever after missing on Meachem last year, and the Cardinals are looking to possibly replace Johnson. And of course the Bengals are also looking for a Reciever but then again they might draft Rashard Mendenhall with their first round pick, which will pretty much force them to draft defense in the 2nd round.

Oh yeah, Jon Jansens Mock Draft:
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I do have a feeling that the team might trade up with the Jets again to grab Jordy, as Jordy seems to have made a favorable impression on the guys in Ashburn, in which case the Jets would recieve our 2-20 and our 3-21 but I've been wrong before. Then again they could also be shooting for Kelly but I'm hoping that the Cowboys draft that headache with their second 1st round pick.

However I believe that if Jordy falls to 51 and Merling is picked by the Skins at 21 then theres a 90% chance of Jordy Nelson being the pick. The teams I worry about in front of us are the 49ers, Eagles, Saints, Cardinals, and the.....Lions. As the 49ers will take BPA in the 1st round, Eagles won't draft a 1st round reciever, Saints are somehow still looking for another reciever after missing on Meachem last year, and the Cardinals are looking to possibly replace Johnson. And of course the Bengals are also looking for a Reciever but then again they might draft Rashard Mendenhall with their first round pick, which will pretty much force them to draft defense in the 2nd round.
I'm with you, I definitely hope Kelly is gone so we don't need to worry about him.

If Jordy is there at 51, you're 100% right, he's the guy. With the Lions in front of us he won't be there, they always draft WR (LOL). I like Jordy a lot, but I don't want to give up a third to get him. We can draft a WR later and we still have June 1 cuts and next year's picks to play with to go after a WR before camp if necessary. And don't forget we have Mix :cheeky-sm
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I'm with you, I definitely hope Kelly is gone so we don't need to worry about him.

If Jordy is there at 51, you're 100% right, he's the guy. With the Lions in front of us he won't be there, they always draft WR (LOL). I like Jordy a lot, but I don't want to give up a third to get him. We can draft a WR later and we still have June 1 cuts and next year's picks to play with to go after a WR before camp if necessary. And don't forget we have Mix :cheeky-sm
Grrrrrrrr Mix. In that case I'll ask that the front office give up next years 1st rounder and our 2nd to move up, if it means that the fanbase forgets about Mix for a while.
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Grrrrrrrr Mix. In that case I'll ask that the front office give up next years 1st rounder and our 2nd to move up, if it means that the fanbase forgets about Mix for a while.
I'm not down on Mix, I think he may develop into a solid red-zone threat or a possession guy in a year or two.

But it is definitely irritating to read the posts from waaaay too many folks on here playing too much Madden and falling in love with him as our starting #2. It's OK to admit it, you know you're a big Mix fan (LOL)
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We have Maurice Mann too!!

Here's who I think I want (after much deliberation). I don't know how to get them. Just get it done Dirtbag!!

Phillip Merling, Earl Bennett (still really like Hubbard though), Roy Schuening, Zack Bowman, Tony Hills, Marcus Harrison, Craig Steltz, Adriana Lima
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We have Maurice Mann too!!

Here's who I think I want (after much deliberation). I don't know how to get them. Just get it done Dirtbag!!

Phillip Merling, Earl Bennett (still really like Hubbard though), Roy Schuening, Zack Bowman, Tony Hills, Marcus Harrison, Craig Steltz, Adriana Lima
I want her too, good choice SS.
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The problem with that is just because you draft a CB and so on doesn't mean he can play, there is a reason they are not projected in the early part of the draft. We should be looking to replace starters with youth not find backups for them.
You've completely lost me. I have no idea at all what you're trying to say.
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You've completely lost me. I have no idea at all what you're trying to say.
He's saying (not very coherently) that earlier picks are the most valuable because they are more likely to produce young starters than later picks, which are more likely to produce backups or players who don't make the team.

Basically, that if you are going to trade picks, it makes sense to trade the later ones and use the earlier ones.

It's overly simplistic, but generally I agree.
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He's saying (not very coherently) that earlier picks are the most valuable because they are more likely to produce young starters than later picks, which are more likely to produce backups or players who don't make the team.

Basically, that if you are going to trade picks, it makes sense to trade the later ones and use the earlier ones.

It's overly simplistic, but generally I agree.
I see. Where's the delineation between early and late? We have at this moment a 2nd and two 3rds. Is that not worth anything?
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