Make Your Day Two Redskins Draft Selections (Rounds 3-7)

SmootSmack · 02-25-2008, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Thanks SS for clearing up that we have all of our draft picks. I thought we lacked a 4th rounder (wiping the egg off of my face).

Yeah, I thought I was wrong but it turned out I was right so I guess I was wrong?

Bottom line, we don't have a 4th round pick. Thought we didn't, then I thought we did...but we don't

SkinsFanSince91 · 02-25-2008, 11:13 AM

So do we have a 4th or not?

Please lets have one final answer!

Dirtbag59 · 02-25-2008, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

What does everyone know about Josh Johnson, QB out of San Diego? Played in a pro-style WC under Jim Harbaugh. Possible late rounder?

Josh Johnson projects as a 3rd pick right now on USA Today. To me that means that he's either going in the 2nd round or the 5th. Either way projecting where QB's are going to fall after the top 10 seems quite troublesome.

Top 100 prospects hottest players for the NFL draft - USATODAY.com

Note: Your BOY is ranked 80th overall.

Dirtbag59 · 02-26-2008, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SNIKSDER44

im gay

Man is it just me, or are we getting loaded with more new guys then ever? Wonder if it has anything to do with the new coach. Nah, has to be the playoff run.

Dirtbag59 · 02-27-2008, 04:33 PM

I'll post a few profiles of guys I would like to get a look in the third round. This guy reminds me of Antwaan Odom.

Wallace Gilberry
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Strengths: Possesses adequate-to-good height and bulk. Is tough, aggressive and active versus the run. Hands continue to improve and he does a decent job of getting off blocks, finding the ball and pursuing. Generally displays good leverage out of his stance. He is a good open-field tackler for his position. Displays good initial pop and will stand some OT's up with his short area explosiveness. He displays some quality power moves as a pass rusher. Plays with a great motor. Excellent experience at the highest collegiate level. He also has been exceptionally durable and reliable throughout his career.

Weaknesses: Lacks any elite qualities. Does not display good top-end speed or closing burst as a pass rusher. Will struggle to turn the corner as an edge rusher and will never be much of a threat in that facet of the game. Plays power-DE in college but does not possess elite size and will need to improve his base in order to contribute as a situational run-plugger type. Gets good initial pop but will struggle to anchor versus bigger, stronger OT's.

Overall: Gilberry was redshirted when he arrived in 2003. During his first three seasons (2004-06) he played in 37 games (25 starts) and recorded 108 tackles, 33.5 tackles for loss and 11.5 sacks. Gilberry is a tough, aggressive, durable and reliable college player that continues to improve each season. He will give a great effort and maximizes his skills. He is at his best versus the run and should find a way to contribute for a NFL team on a sub-package basis. However, Gilberry will never be much of a threat as a pass rusher and he lacks any special physical qualities to get excited about when projecting him to the next level. Even if he maximizes his tools in the NFL he will never be more than a situational run-stopping reserve. As such, Gilberry projects as a mid-round pick in 2008.

Stats: http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sco...egilberry.html

That Guy · 02-28-2008, 03:29 AM

3 heath benedict OT
5 jeremy zuttah OT
6 rudolph hardy DE
7 marcus monk WR

with laws as our 2nd rounder and merling/harvey/cromartie/phillips in the first

5th may be used on best QB though (brennan, dixon, etc)

skinzaholic73 · 02-28-2008, 09:56 AM

3.Dre Moore DT
5.Colt Brennan QB
6.Mike McGlynn OT
7.Martel Van Zant CB

*!st rd. Quentin Groves 2nd.Branden Albert/Roy Schuening OG

Dirtbag59 · 02-29-2008, 02:43 PM

My Super Awesome Glorious Day 2 Mock Draft
3rd - Glen Dorsey
5th - Matt Ryan
6th - Jordy Nelson
7th - Chris Long

SkinsFanSince91 · 02-29-2008, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

My Super Awesome Glorious Day 2 Mock Draft
3rd - Glen Dorsey
5th - Matt Ryan
6th - Jordy Nelson
7th - Chris Long

How do u figure J Nelson falling all the way to us at the BOTTOM of the 6th?

Oh yea, some people still do drugs.

SkinsFanSince91 · 02-29-2008, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by skinzaholic73

3.Dre Moore DT
5.Colt Brennan QB
6.Mike McGlynn OT
7.Martel Van Zant CB

*!st rd. Quentin Groves 2nd.Branden Albert/Roy Schuening OG

So you don't want to take a receiver AT ALL in the draft?

SmootSmack · 02-29-2008, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinsFanSince91

How do u figure J Nelson falling all the way to us at the BOTTOM of the 6th?

Oh yea, some people still do drugs.

359 was clearly kidding around

Dirtbag59 · 02-29-2008, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

359 was clearly kidding around

I have to stop kidding around so much. Letting people know that I'm messing around is becoming a full time job for you SmootSmack.

In all seriousness I think the key to finding out who the Redskins will take on day 2 will be finding out who are the most coachable guys with extremly productive careers, while being short on measureables. HB Blades is a prime example of that. I think Vinny said that he averaged 150 tackles a year when he started at Pitt, but don't hold me to that.

In fact Vinny said that they mainly target productive players with average-measureables on day 2. So if you're looking who the Redskins might take on day 2 look at the stats instead of the 40 times.

That Guy · 03-01-2008, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

I have to stop kidding around so much. Letting people know that I'm messing around is becoming a full time job for you SmootSmack.

In all seriousness I think the key to finding out who the Redskins will take on day 2 will be finding out who are the most coachable guys with extremly productive careers, while being short on measureables. HB Blades is a prime example of that. I think Vinny said that he averaged 150 tackles a year when he started at Pitt, but don't hold me to that.

In fact Vinny said that they mainly target productive players with average-measureables on day 2. So if you're looking who the Redskins might take on day 2 look at the stats instead of the 40 times.

cooley had over 1200 yards receiving as a fullback and went in the 3rd round (though as a "fullback", all he did was run routes and catch passes).

reed doughty was the same way. GREAT college production... I called him to the skins in the 6th about 2 months before the draft :P

makes me wish i really didn't have to miss 90% of last years FA/senior bowl/combine/pro days/draft with other obligations

Dirtbag59 · 03-10-2008, 07:02 PM

I think that history tells us that one of the second day Guards will probably go on to be a successful NFL lineman. To me the guys to watch out for are

Andrew Crummey - Local product that was highly regarded by fans and coaches, but has recently been slown down by injuries. 2008 NFL Draft Scout, From Prep to Pro Coverage for Pros by Pros -- Powered by the Sports Xchange (Projected round 6-7)

Robert Felton G - Arkansas - To this day I believe that Darren McFaddens success is due more to the ability of his offensive line then his own natural talent. Felton is a mauler and I would love to add him. Ironically his agents name is Dave Butz. Also might have heard that he can play Guard and Tackle 2008 NFL Draft Scout, From Prep to Pro Coverage for Pros by Pros -- Powered by the Sports Xchange (Projected to Rd 4-5)

Mike McGlynn - The ultimate swing lineman, can play C, G, and T. Durable as well and apparently plays with good technique. I would be very pleased if we got this guy. 2008 NFL Draft Scout, From Prep to Pro Coverage for Pros by Pros -- Powered by the Sports Xchange (Projected to Round 3-4)

Chris McDuffie - G - Clemson - Big mauler that helped his RB's combine for 1,600+ yards
2008 NFL Draft Scout, From Prep to Pro Coverage for Pros by Pros -- Powered by the Sports Xchange (Projected Round (6)

Eric Young - G - Tennesee - Highly regarded prospect that has been red flaged due to injuries. 2008 NFL Draft Scout, From Prep to Pro Coverage for Pros by Pros -- Powered by the Sports Xchange

If we do go the WR, DE, CB route (in no particular order) with our first 3 picks then I say that we'll probably end up with one of the lineman that I have listed here. Probably with that alleged 3rd round comp pick. Of course I would love Brandon Albert, but for me thats a pipe dream. Anyway with the coaching of Joe Bugel and the handful of elite Guards that were picked late in the draft I would be more then willing to wait.

Heres a list I've compiled of some of the top Guards in the league and where they were drafted (or Undrafted)

Brian Waters - KC - Undrafted
Kris Deilman - SD - Undrafted
Steve Hutchinson - Min - 1st Round 17th pick
Logan Mankins - NE - 1st Round 32nd Pick
Shawn Andrews - Phi - 1st Round 16th Pick
Alan Fanneca - NYJ - 1st Round 26th Pick
Benji Olsen - Ten - 5th Round
Will Shields - KC - 3rd Round
Eric Steinbach - Cle - 2nd Round ~1st Pick
Vince Manuwai - Jax - 3rd Round 8th Pick
Leonard Davis - Dal - 1st Round 2nd Pick
Stacy Andrews - Cin - 4th Round Pick 27
Randy Thomas - Was - 2nd Round 57th Overall
Derrick Dockery - Buf - 3rd Round
Pete Kendall - Was - 1st Round 21st Overall
Brandon Moore - NYJ - Undrafted
Mike Whale - Sea - 2nd Round Supplemental

I'll add more when stupid ESPN lets me see the list :P Actually after looking at this list I'm convinced more now then ever that we should draft Albert in the 1st Round. However I have faith in Buge's ability to develop virtually any lineman with a shread of talent and potential.

SmootSmack · 03-10-2008, 07:16 PM

Dave Butz is also Matt Jones' agent (he was at least, not sure if he still is). And the name isn't a coincidence he is 65's son.

02-25-2008, 11:13 AM	#62
SkinsFanSince91 Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Wash DC Posts: 368	Re: Make Your Day Two Redskins Draft Selections (Rounds 3-7) So do we have a 4th or not? Please lets have one final answer! __________________ Without Struggle, there is no progress! Jason Campbell is our guy! Lets RIde!!! HAIL TO THE SKINS!!!

02-27-2008, 04:33 PM	#65
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 27 Posts: 13,953	Re: Make Your Day Two Redskins Draft Selections (Rounds 3-7) I'll post a few profiles of guys I would like to get a look in the third round. This guy reminds me of Antwaan Odom. Wallace Gilberry DE \| (6'2", 263, 4.95) \| ALABAMA Scouts Grade: 62View by: Player \| NCAA School \| Position \| NFL Team \| Flag \| All Ranked Players \| NFL Draft History You are signed into Insider and have access to the exclusive draft content below. Strengths: Possesses adequate-to-good height and bulk. Is tough, aggressive and active versus the run. Hands continue to improve and he does a decent job of getting off blocks, finding the ball and pursuing. Generally displays good leverage out of his stance. He is a good open-field tackler for his position. Displays good initial pop and will stand some OT's up with his short area explosiveness. He displays some quality power moves as a pass rusher. Plays with a great motor. Excellent experience at the highest collegiate level. He also has been exceptionally durable and reliable throughout his career. Weaknesses: Lacks any elite qualities. Does not display good top-end speed or closing burst as a pass rusher. Will struggle to turn the corner as an edge rusher and will never be much of a threat in that facet of the game. Plays power-DE in college but does not possess elite size and will need to improve his base in order to contribute as a situational run-plugger type. Gets good initial pop but will struggle to anchor versus bigger, stronger OT's. Overall: Gilberry was redshirted when he arrived in 2003. During his first three seasons (2004-06) he played in 37 games (25 starts) and recorded 108 tackles, 33.5 tackles for loss and 11.5 sacks. Gilberry is a tough, aggressive, durable and reliable college player that continues to improve each season. He will give a great effort and maximizes his skills. He is at his best versus the run and should find a way to contribute for a NFL team on a sub-package basis. However, Gilberry will never be much of a threat as a pass rusher and he lacks any special physical qualities to get excited about when projecting him to the next level. Even if he maximizes his tools in the NFL he will never be more than a situational run-stopping reserve. As such, Gilberry projects as a mid-round pick in 2008. Stats: http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sco...egilberry.html __________________ Flacco is 1337 Fanclub President

02-28-2008, 03:29 AM	#66
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 30 Posts: 15,618	Re: Make Your Day Two Redskins Draft Selections (Rounds 3-7) 3 heath benedict OT 5 jeremy zuttah OT 6 rudolph hardy DE 7 marcus monk WR with laws as our 2nd rounder and merling/harvey/cromartie/phillips in the first 5th may be used on best QB though (brennan, dixon, etc) __________________ Who says shameless self promotion is stupid? oh yeah, that was me... Click For Tunes!

02-28-2008, 09:56 AM	#67
skinzaholic73 Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: West Virginia Age: 39 Posts: 78	Re: Make Your Day Two Redskins Draft Selections (Rounds 3-7) 3.Dre Moore DT 5.Colt Brennan QB 6.Mike McGlynn OT 7.Martel Van Zant CB *!st rd. Quentin Groves 2nd.Branden Albert/Roy Schuening OG

02-29-2008, 02:43 PM	#68
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 27 Posts: 13,953	Re: Make Your Day Two Redskins Draft Selections (Rounds 3-7) My Super Awesome Glorious Day 2 Mock Draft 3rd - Glen Dorsey 5th - Matt Ryan 6th - Jordy Nelson 7th - Chris Long __________________ Flacco is 1337 Fanclub President

03-10-2008, 07:02 PM	#74
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 27 Posts: 13,953	Re: Make Your Day Two Redskins Draft Selections (Rounds 3-7) I think that history tells us that one of the second day Guards will probably go on to be a successful NFL lineman. To me the guys to watch out for are Andrew Crummey - Local product that was highly regarded by fans and coaches, but has recently been slown down by injuries. 2008 NFL Draft Scout, From Prep to Pro Coverage for Pros by Pros -- Powered by the Sports Xchange (Projected round 6-7) Robert Felton G - Arkansas - To this day I believe that Darren McFaddens success is due more to the ability of his offensive line then his own natural talent. Felton is a mauler and I would love to add him. Ironically his agents name is Dave Butz. Also might have heard that he can play Guard and Tackle 2008 NFL Draft Scout, From Prep to Pro Coverage for Pros by Pros -- Powered by the Sports Xchange (Projected to Rd 4-5) Mike McGlynn - The ultimate swing lineman, can play C, G, and T. Durable as well and apparently plays with good technique. I would be very pleased if we got this guy. 2008 NFL Draft Scout, From Prep to Pro Coverage for Pros by Pros -- Powered by the Sports Xchange (Projected to Round 3-4) Chris McDuffie - G - Clemson - Big mauler that helped his RB's combine for 1,600+ yards 2008 NFL Draft Scout, From Prep to Pro Coverage for Pros by Pros -- Powered by the Sports Xchange (Projected Round (6) Eric Young - G - Tennesee - Highly regarded prospect that has been red flaged due to injuries. 2008 NFL Draft Scout, From Prep to Pro Coverage for Pros by Pros -- Powered by the Sports Xchange If we do go the WR, DE, CB route (in no particular order) with our first 3 picks then I say that we'll probably end up with one of the lineman that I have listed here. Probably with that alleged 3rd round comp pick. Of course I would love Brandon Albert, but for me thats a pipe dream. Anyway with the coaching of Joe Bugel and the handful of elite Guards that were picked late in the draft I would be more then willing to wait. Heres a list I've compiled of some of the top Guards in the league and where they were drafted (or Undrafted) Brian Waters - KC - Undrafted Kris Deilman - SD - Undrafted Steve Hutchinson - Min - 1st Round 17th pick Logan Mankins - NE - 1st Round 32nd Pick Shawn Andrews - Phi - 1st Round 16th Pick Alan Fanneca - NYJ - 1st Round 26th Pick Benji Olsen - Ten - 5th Round Will Shields - KC - 3rd Round Eric Steinbach - Cle - 2nd Round ~1st Pick Vince Manuwai - Jax - 3rd Round 8th Pick Leonard Davis - Dal - 1st Round 2nd Pick Stacy Andrews - Cin - 4th Round Pick 27 Randy Thomas - Was - 2nd Round 57th Overall Derrick Dockery - Buf - 3rd Round Pete Kendall - Was - 1st Round 21st Overall Brandon Moore - NYJ - Undrafted Mike Whale - Sea - 2nd Round Supplemental I'll add more when stupid ESPN lets me see the list :P Actually after looking at this list I'm convinced more now then ever that we should draft Albert in the 1st Round. However I have faith in Buge's ability to develop virtually any lineman with a shread of talent and potential. __________________ Flacco is 1337 Fanclub President

03-10-2008, 07:16 PM	#75
SmootSmack Mad Men Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,097	Re: Make Your Day Two Redskins Draft Selections (Rounds 3-7) Dave Butz is also Matt Jones' agent (he was at least, not sure if he still is). And the name isn't a coincidence he is 65's son. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

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