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03-10-2008, 08:02 PM
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| Naega jeil jal naga  Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 29
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| Re: Make Your Day Two Redskins Draft Selections (Rounds 3-7) I think that history tells us that one of the second day Guards will probably go on to be a successful NFL lineman. To me the guys to watch out for are Andrew Crummey - Local product that was highly regarded by fans and coaches, but has recently been slown down by injuries. 2008 NFL Draft Scout, From Prep to Pro Coverage for Pros by Pros -- Powered by the Sports Xchange (Projected round 6-7) Robert Felton G - Arkansas - To this day I believe that Darren McFaddens success is due more to the ability of his offensive line then his own natural talent. Felton is a mauler and I would love to add him. Ironically his agents name is Dave Butz. Also might have heard that he can play Guard and Tackle 2008 NFL Draft Scout, From Prep to Pro Coverage for Pros by Pros -- Powered by the Sports Xchange (Projected to Rd 4-5) Mike McGlynn - The ultimate swing lineman, can play C, G, and T. Durable as well and apparently plays with good technique. I would be very pleased if we got this guy. 2008 NFL Draft Scout, From Prep to Pro Coverage for Pros by Pros -- Powered by the Sports Xchange (Projected to Round 3-4) Chris McDuffie - G - Clemson - Big mauler that helped his RB's combine for 1,600+ yards 2008 NFL Draft Scout, From Prep to Pro Coverage for Pros by Pros -- Powered by the Sports Xchange (Projected Round (6) Eric Young - G - Tennesee - Highly regarded prospect that has been red flaged due to injuries. 2008 NFL Draft Scout, From Prep to Pro Coverage for Pros by Pros -- Powered by the Sports Xchange If we do go the WR, DE, CB route (in no particular order) with our first 3 picks then I say that we'll probably end up with one of the lineman that I have listed here. Probably with that alleged 3rd round comp pick. Of course I would love Brandon Albert, but for me thats a pipe dream. Anyway with the coaching of Joe Bugel and the handful of elite Guards that were picked late in the draft I would be more then willing to wait. Heres a list I've compiled of some of the top Guards in the league and where they were drafted (or Undrafted) Brian Waters - KC - Undrafted Kris Deilman - SD - Undrafted Steve Hutchinson - Min - 1st Round 17th pick Logan Mankins - NE - 1st Round 32nd Pick Shawn Andrews - Phi - 1st Round 16th Pick Alan Fanneca - NYJ - 1st Round 26th Pick Benji Olsen - Ten - 5th Round Will Shields - KC - 3rd Round Eric Steinbach - Cle - 2nd Round ~1st Pick Vince Manuwai - Jax - 3rd Round 8th Pick Leonard Davis - Dal - 1st Round 2nd Pick Stacy Andrews - Cin - 4th Round Pick 27 Randy Thomas - Was - 2nd Round 57th Overall Derrick Dockery - Buf - 3rd Round Pete Kendall - Was - 1st Round 21st Overall Brandon Moore - NYJ - Undrafted Mike Whale - Sea - 2nd Round Supplemental I'll add more when stupid ESPN lets me see the list :P Actually after looking at this list I'm convinced more now then ever that we should draft Albert in the 1st Round. However I have faith in Buge's ability to develop virtually any lineman with a shread of talent and potential.
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03-10-2008, 08:16 PM
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| Uncle Phil   Join Date: Feb 2004
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| Re: Make Your Day Two Redskins Draft Selections (Rounds 3-7) Dave Butz is also Matt Jones' agent (he was at least, not sure if he still is). And the name isn't a coincidence he is 65's son.
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03-11-2008, 12:54 AM
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| Living Legend  Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 32
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| Re: Make Your Day Two Redskins Draft Selections (Rounds 3-7) i like mcduffie in the 6th, and i really like zuttah in the 5th. mario urrutia is a 6th roundish WR i also like that had 800 then 1000 yards before a terrible junior year, injury, and a poor decision to come out anyways. 6'6" 4.6 guy, and he screams value to me.
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03-11-2008, 03:44 PM
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| Another Year, another mess.  Join Date: Feb 2004
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| Re: Make Your Day Two Redskins Draft Selections (Rounds 3-7) 3rd:Josh Johnson QB San Diego 3rd supplmental  re Moore DT Maryland 5th: Breno Giacomini T Louisville 6th: Bobbie Williams S Bethune-Cookman 7th: Marcus Monk WR Arkansas This is my readjusted picks seeing what we are doing right now
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03-11-2008, 08:38 PM
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| Re: Make Your Day Two Redskins Draft Selections (Rounds 3-7) Quote:
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03-11-2008, 10:29 PM
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| Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 29
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| Re: Make Your Day Two Redskins Draft Selections (Rounds 3-7) Quote:
Also it's possible that Jordy Nelson could be available with that 3rd round pick, though I bet that the guy will go early in the 3rd round, and it seems very possible to me that Snyder could use that 1st round pick on Devin Thomas, especially if a deal with Hacket falls apart. Dre Moore right now is projecting among some scouts as a 2nd round pick. Of course Troy Smith was projected as a 3rd round pick last year and ended up going two rounds later. Personally I would love to acquire the guy, but I don't think he last past our 3rd round pick, if that. Besides Josh Johnson threw WAYYYY to many interceptions last year
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03-12-2008, 09:56 PM
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| Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004
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| Re: Make Your Day Two Redskins Draft Selections (Rounds 3-7) I know but joe can't throw many int's from the bench!
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03-22-2008, 04:09 PM
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| Camp Scrub  Join Date: Mar 2008
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| Re: Make Your Day Two Redskins Draft Selections (Rounds 3-7) 4.) Best D Line Out (even Though They Shoulda Picked Two Before Now And We Dont Have This Pick) 5.) A Tall Wide Out 6.) Colt Brennan 7.) The Only O Lineman We Need To Take In The Whole Thing!!! Move Heyer To Guard! |
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03-25-2008, 12:43 AM
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| Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 29
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| Defensive Ends A few Defensive Ends to watch out for. Some of these are guys that might be available when our 3rd round supplemental comes up. Others will be available when we pick in the 5th round and some could be available after the draft. In order to make it on this list you had to: 1. Be available in the late third and beyond 2. Have either a good amount of TFL or sacks. Preferably both 3. Can't have major character issues The prospects are listed in no particular order but Jason Jones, Johnny Dingle, and Wallace Gilbery are my favorites. Rudolph Hardie has also emerged as a favorite, but credit goes to ThatGuy for bringing him up. Jason Jones Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect Jason Jones - Eastern Michigan - Not a real sack master, but had an amazing amount of TFL (Tackles for loss) with 19.5 in 2007 and 18.5 in 2006. Has the size to play LE and has experience at DT, though he doesn't have the bulk to play before 3rd down at the 3 technique. Intangibles have been given a thumbs up, and personally I could picture him getting regular playing time about midway through the season. Kendall Langford Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect Kendall Langford - Hampton - Has the frame to play LDE and the 3 technique at DT. Had a good amount of tackles for loss but not as much as Jason Jones with 13.5 last year. Johnny Dingle Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect Johnny Dingle - West Virginia - Probably the best pass rushing prospect that will be available this late in the draft. Had 9 sacks last year at DT, but his size will force him to move to DE at the next level. 19 TFL also makes him an intriguing prospect. Was personally surprised to learn that he weighs around 265. Wallace Gilberry Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect Wallace Gilbery - Alabama - Might be the best of both worlds. Had 10 sacks last year and a breath taking 27 TFL. Has good intangibles and is solid against the run. Four year starter. One of my favorite sleeper prospects. Marcus Dixon Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect Marcus Dixon - Hampton - Another quality prospect from Hampton. Had 16 TFL last year on top of 6 sacks. Had some off field problems, that had him in prison, but I think if you look into the situation, you'll see that it was a pretty messed up case, and an example of how Georgia is behind the times. Bryan Mattison Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect Bryan Mattison - Iowa - Had 9 sacks and 11 TFL last year. Wouldn't complain if we had a chance to add this guy. Of course this is a guy we would draft after the 3rd round. Has the size to play DT. Jonal Saint-Dic Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect Jonal Saint-Dic - Michigan State - Don't know a lot about him, but from the look of things he might be available as an UDFA. Had 10 sacks and 14.5 TFL Kroy Biermann Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect Kory Biermann - Montanta - Could be a nice pickup after the draft. Has the size of a LB but had 16 sacks and 18.5 TFL last year at DE. Basically he reminds me a lot of Chris Wilson. Brian Johnston Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect Brian Johnston - Garnder-Webb - Originally wasn't going to list him due to lack of inforrmation but 20.5 TFL and 6 sacks is enough for me to take notice in the 7th round. Rudolph Hardie Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect Rudolph Hardie - Howard - 12 sacks with 25 TFL, enough said. Coming up next: Safetys
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03-25-2008, 01:05 AM
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| Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 29
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| Safetys Heres a list of safety prospects that the Redskins could go after on day 2. My personal favorites are Tyrell Johnson, Craig Steltz, and Jamie Silva. I'm also starting to like DJ Wolfe because of the fact that he can play either safety position as well as cornerback. Plus he was productive at the colliegate level. Tyrell Johnson Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect Tyrell Johnson - Arkansas State - Don't know a whole lot about this guy, but Mayock loves him. Has the potential to go in the second round but could be available in the 3rd. Good tackler, great football IQ, and has the type of intangibles that Gibbs would be proud of. Tom Zbikowski Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect Tom Zbikowski -Great college SS that was one of the few bright spots on Notre Dames defense. Always had a white spot under him NCAA, and thats what really matters. Would be an excellent special teamer and has the ability to return punts. Not the type of ball skills you look for but could be a solid backup to Reed Doughty. Craig Steltz Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect Craig Steltz - LSU - Comes from one of the better defensive schools in the country and given his stats I think its safe to assume that he played with Landry back in 2006. Has the type of intangibles you look for and was a productive player at the college level. Had 6 int's last year but 3 of those were in one game, which in a way is good and bad. Would have chemistry with Landry should the opportunity to play came up. Quintin Demps Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect Quintin Demps - Would be a solid FS backup that would offer solid pass protection. Also has the potential to play corner. Jamar Adams Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect Jamar Adams - Michigan - Good intangibles combined with solid production at the colleigate level earns him a look. Marcus Griffin Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect Marcus Griffin - Texas - Not his brother, but had a solid career at Texas. Would at least contritue on special teams. D.J. Wolfe Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect Solid career at Oklahoma merrits a look. Jamie Silva Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect Jamie Silva - Boston College - The type of guy the Redskins look for in the later rounds. Great production and intangibles against top level competition. "Textbook definition of overachiever."
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03-25-2008, 02:57 PM
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| Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 32
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| Re: Make Your Day Two Redskins Draft Selections (Rounds 3-7) you forgot rudolph hardie  Rudolph*Hardie, DE, Howard - 2008 NFL Draft Scout Profile, Powered by The SportsXchange 12 sacks 73 tackles (25 for loss) this year, 9.5sacks, 51 tackles last year 6th round pick, or 5th since we pick late.
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03-25-2008, 04:31 PM
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| Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 29
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| Re: Make Your Day Two Redskins Draft Selections (Rounds 3-7) Quote:
However, with the way things are going I wouldn't be surprised to see our first three picks being G, WR, and CB (in no particular order). With all these guys available late in the draft I could easily see the Redskins take what they think is an Anthony Montgomery type prospect at DE either with the compenstation pick or our fifth round pick. However this desire to draft a QB sometime in the draft is getting on my nerves because not only do late round QB's not make teams but drafting one could cost us a productive college player that we could easily turn into an overachiever. And last year, taking Jordan Palmer cost us the chance to take a shot at a backup TE like Ben Patrick, who at one point was projected as a 2nd round pick. So I guess my draft/what I want yet realistically see the Redskins doing goes as follows. I think at this point I have to many DE's but we'll see. 1st - Mike Jenkins - CB/S - South Florida (I mean I guess it's kind of like Miami) 2nd - Jordy Nelson - WR - Kansas 3rd - Robert Felton - G - Arkansas 3rd Comp - Wallace Gilbery - DE - Alabama 5th - Dennis Dixon - QB - Oregon or Colt Brenen - QB - Hawaii 6th - Rudolph Hardie - DE - Howard 7th - Jamie Silva - S - BC 7th - Marcus Dixon - DE/DT - Hampton 7th - Marcus Monk - WR - Arkansas UDFA - Andrew Crummy - G - Maryland
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03-25-2008, 05:28 PM
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| Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 29
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| Defensive Tackles These are the guys that the Redskins could go after in the later rounds at DT. Most of these guys are 3 techniques. Dre Moore Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect Dre Moore - DT - Maryland - The best of the 3 techniques that will be available possibly in the 3rd round. 6 sacks and 8.5 TFL. Plus the local product helps combined with the Redskins desire to add a pass rushing DT. Frank Okam Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect Frank Okom - Texas - Huge DT prospect that somehow found his way to the QB 5 times and was able to grab 10 TFL. Redskins like late round guys that produced at big schools so he's obviously an option. Lionel Dotson Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect Lionel Dotson - Arizona - Don't know a lot about him, but had 6.5 sacks last year as well as 9 TFL. Late round availability and great college production earn him a look. Nick Hayden Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect Nick Hayden - Wisonsin - 4.5 sacks and 8.5 TFL Barry Booker Scouting Report - 2008 NFL Draft Prospect Barry Brooker - Virginia Tech - 4 sacks and 10.5 TFL plus the fact that he's a local kid earns him a look.
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04-05-2008, 07:28 PM
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| Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 29
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| Re: Make Your Day Two Redskins Draft Selections (Rounds 3-7) Since the Redskins like Miami players so much it remains possible that the 3rd string QB the team is looking to develop could be Kyle Wright. Wright was the #1 recruit in the country during his senior year of high school and to this day he still has all the tools to succed as an NFL QB including size, arm strength, and good feet. If Zorn feels like he can help Wright turn the corner then look for the Skins to take him with their 7th round pick. Kyle Wright QB | (6'3  ", 218, 4.849) | MIAMI (FLA.)Scouts Grade: 30 Flags: (D: DURABILITY) Player that can't stay healthyView by: Player | NCAA School | Position | NFL Team | Flag  | All Ranked Players | NFL Draft History You are signed into Insider  and have access to the exclusive draft content below. Strengths: Possesses good height, decent bulk and room on his frame to get bigger. Footwork is sound and is smooth setting up. Displays a strong arm, puts good zip on downfield passes and can make all the necessary throws in the NFL. Shows above-average ball skills and sells play fakes well on play-action. Has quick feet, is an above average athlete and flashes the ability to buy time in the pocket. Mobile enough to get out of the pocket and appears comfortable throwing on the run. Is tough and has bounced back from more than his fair share of hits. Weaknesses: Inconsistent and has yet to reach his physical potential. Indecisive, holds onto the ball too long and takes too many hits as a result. Doesn't show great poise in the ace of pressure and needs to learn when to throw the ball away. Delivery mechanics are inconsistent. Has a tendency to windup and overall release quickness is below average. Locks onto receivers, fails to see the entire field and misses too many open receivers. Lacks elite top-end speed, isn't going to make many defenders miss and isn't much of a big-play threat when scrambles. Sustained a thumb injury on his throwing hand that required surgery in 2006 and slowed by ankle as well as knee injuries during the 2007 season so durability is a concern. Overall: Wright was redshirted in 2003. In his first three seasons at Miami (2004-'06), he appeared in 23 games (21 starts) and completed 337 of 566 pass attempts (59.5 percent) for 4,058 yards, 26 touchdowns and 17 interceptions. In 2007, he played in 10 games (eight starts) and completed 141 of 241 pass attempts (58.5 percent) for 1,747 yards, 12 touchdowns and 14 interceptions. He also ran for 66 yards (0.8 average) and three TDs as a senior. Wright broke his thumb in 2006 and missed the team's final four games of the season. Last year he missed one game (and was hampered in others) because of knee and ankle injuries. Wright has enough physical tools to succeed in the NFL, including good size-potential, a strong arm and enough athleticism. However, he never was able to put it all together at the collegiate level and, from what we've seen on film, he may lack the instincts his position requires. Wright projects as a late-round pick or rookie free agent. * Player biographies are provided by Scouts Inc.
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04-05-2008, 08:10 PM
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