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The official 2008 draft discussion thread

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View Poll Results: WTF Pick of Day One
WR Devin Thomas (34) 18 12.00%
TE Fred Davis (48) 95 63.33%
WR Malcolm Kelly (51) 37 24.67%
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Old 04-26-2008, 10:32 PM   #736
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I'm in love with all three of these picks.

First off, it shows that our coaches and GM aren't smoking crack and drinking the Anthony Mix Kool Aid. They recognize that we need serious weapons. They're right.

Santana Moss, as good as he is, doesn't score enough TDs. Same with ARE. Down in the red zone these guys disappear. Nevermind the fact that Moss is getting older and that without these WRs, James Thrash or Anthony Mix would be our #3 WR (horrible).

Fred Davis gives us a second TE weapon, another big body for making yards after the catch.

We got serious value out of our picks. You guys are crazy.

I totally agree. My Dad and I were like "Hel frickin yeah...we got some ballers."

I love having all of these offensive weapons. Our offense has always stalled at the worst times. I will not rush to jusdge the FO until I see the rest of the picks.

Now if they go draft two RB's and another wide out, I'll be pissed.

I could see them working another trade tomorrow. Possibly a player for another 3rd rounder.
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Old 04-26-2008, 10:34 PM   #737
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I'm still trying to figure out this TE we drafted...WHY? We could have had Campbell right? Or did I miss something??
Don't forget Calais Campbell only benched 13 reps @ 225 in the combine and ran poorly. His ex-DL coach is also on staff, so same as us not getting Hackett, I'm going to trust an ex-coach of a player knowing something if the guy is not brought in and he would've filled a need.
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Old 04-26-2008, 10:38 PM   #738
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I like the "take the best player available" approach that Cerrato seems to be employing. After watching our poodle offense last year struggle to score 20 points--I'm thinking that if one of these guys helps us score another fg or td a game-then we'll win 2 more games a year.
This league is slanted to scoring points and the Skins seem to struggle to do that the last few years. While our offense may have been efficient at times; I felt it struggled to produce easy scores (runs/passes > 40 yards) and stalled a bit too often in the redzone. I can see these picks helping with both--opening up Portis/Moss/ARE for bigger plays while addressing our redzone failings with some "bigs" at receiver...
Bingo. This team hasn't exactly been lighting up the scoreboard over the past few seasons. As you said, only here and there has this offense looked somewhat efficient.

Plus, it's a passing league now. Look at the Colts last year: they have Harrison, Wayne, and Dallas Clark, and they take Anthony Gonzales with their first pick.

We need more options, we need to score more touchdowns, and Moss and Randle El by themselves just don't cut it.

For what it's worth, Mel Kiper just listed Washington as a Day One "Winner".
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Old 04-26-2008, 10:38 PM   #739
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great video of the two TE sets run in green bay.

I think running with two TEs is awesome, and great for Madden.

I gotta believe Zorn either 1) Doesnt like ARE and MOSS as anything more than slot receivers or 2) ARE is fine in the slot, Moss is been hurt and getting older...by the time these two develop we'l need receivers anyways.
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Old 04-26-2008, 10:38 PM   #740
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My only question is how are we gonna get the ball to all these "ballers" if the o-line is injured? To me the o and d lines are more important than skill positions, you make sure you are solid up front before you start upgrading your skill positions. I do trust the front office to try and shore us up on the lines though tomorrow, the only way I will truly believe that we are nuts is if we don't bring in anyone tomorrow to give us depth on the lines. Our front office can't be that stupid though. Look on the bright side though, if our o-line is healthy then our offense will be looking pretty damn good.
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Old 04-26-2008, 10:39 PM   #741
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Call me crazy, but we may just offer Moss and next years first for CJ? Any takers?
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Old 04-26-2008, 10:39 PM   #742
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Maybe they all understood that 1.) Chris Cooley needed a capable backup - which we don't currently have; and 2.) A second receiving tight end is vital for Zorn's offense to work.

I highly suggest checking out the youtube clip SmootSmack posted as an example of how double TE sets can confuse opposing defenses.
I saw the play and it is cool...
My point has more to do with using top picks for folks on the bench when we need starters on the Dline and elsewhere.

On that particular play...there were 2 TE and 2 WR....that leave either our 2 current top WRs on the bench, or our 2 new top picks.

In an ideal world....I would have liked to use one of these top picks on the Dline because, hell, they'd be a full time starter at minimum by 09
My point.....Talent does nothing when it aint in the game.
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Bingo. This team hasn't exactly been lighting up the scoreboard over the past few seasons. As you said, only here and there has this offense looked somewhat efficient.

Plus, it's a passing league now. Look at the Colts last year: they have Harrison, Wayne, and Dallas Clark, and they take Anthony Gonzales with their first pick.

We need more options, we need to score more touchdowns, and Moss and Randle El by themselves just don't cut it.

For what it's worth, Mel Kiper just listed Washington as a Day One "Winner".
and the Patriots added Stallworth, traded for Wes Welker, and then traded picks for Randy Moss...and they had just drafted Bethel Johnson, and Ben Watson... all they have to show is 75 TDs last year...
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Old 04-26-2008, 10:40 PM   #744
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Funny how people are forgetting our defense finished number 8 last year, and our offense struggled big time.

I don't care how good your defense is, if you can't score more than 20 points a game, you aint going far my friend.
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I saw the play and it is cool...
My point has more to do with using top picks for folks on the bench when we need starters on the Dline and elsewhere.

On that particular play...there were 2 TE and 2 WR....that leave either our 2 current top WRs on the bench, or our 2 new top picks.

In an ideal world....I would have liked to use one of these top picks on the Dline because, hell, they'd be a full time starter at minimum by 09
My point.....Talent does nothing when it aint in the game.

Youre completely right, which is why we cut Llyod and why ARE and Moss are going to become more situational. Which they will be amazing at...using ARE for trick plays wehre he throws...Moss for the deep ball.

Gibbs ran screen or hail marys with moss last year. he always had to elave the game becasue he was dead tired. now he can run deep routes or make plays with a screen and come out and catch his breath without making our offense inept by taking him out.
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Call me crazy, but we may just offer Moss and next years first for CJ? Any takers?
I was thinking the exact same thing...make it happen Vinny!
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Still love the Davis pick. Hahaha
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Youre completely right, which is why we cut Llyod and why ARE and Moss are going to become more situational. Which they will be amazing at...using ARE for trick plays wehre he throws...Moss for the deep ball.

Gibbs ran screen or hail marys with moss last year. he always had to elave the game becasue he was dead tired. now he can run deep routes or make plays with a screen and come out and catch his breath without making our offense inept by taking him out.
Well...my concerns about overcompensating on O....and ignoring bigger needs will have to wait until tommorrow...
If we do well and shore up both lines and secondary with our highest picks...it could be a great draft....
But lets be honest here....aint no way we get an impact pass rusher with whats left....hopefully Chris Wilson and Andre Carter can handle that!
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I was thinking the exact same thing...make it happen Vinny!

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Alright guys, I need good reasons why we took this TE. Here is his scouting report from ESPN:
There were concerns about Davis' ability to stretch the field before the combine, and his slow 40 time backed up what we saw on film. He isn't an overwhelming in-line blocker, either, but he does a good job getting in position and he fights to sustain his blocks. In addition, he has the athletic ability, big hands and long arms to emerge as a reliable possession receiver.

I admittedly know nothing about this guy / pick, but my initial reaction is that we screwed the perverbial pooch. Please give me reasons to get on board with this.
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