Warpath  

Home | Forums | Salary Cap Info | Shop | Donate | Stay Connected




Go Back   Warpath > Redskins Forums > Redskins Locker Room > NFL Draft Central


The official 2008 draft discussion thread

NFL Draft Central


View Poll Results: WTF Pick of Day One
WR Devin Thomas (34) 18 12.00%
TE Fred Davis (48) 95 63.33%
WR Malcolm Kelly (51) 37 24.67%
Voters: 150. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-26-2008, 11:42 PM   #766
Pro Bowl
 
SKINSnCANES's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: New Jersey
Age: 32
Posts: 5,428
Re: The official 2008 draft discussion thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by skinsnut View Post
I saw the play and it is cool...
My point has more to do with using top picks for folks on the bench when we need starters on the Dline and elsewhere.

On that particular play...there were 2 TE and 2 WR....that leave either our 2 current top WRs on the bench, or our 2 new top picks.

In an ideal world....I would have liked to use one of these top picks on the Dline because, hell, they'd be a full time starter at minimum by 09
My point.....Talent does nothing when it aint in the game.

Youre completely right, which is why we cut Llyod and why ARE and Moss are going to become more situational. Which they will be amazing at...using ARE for trick plays wehre he throws...Moss for the deep ball.

Gibbs ran screen or hail marys with moss last year. he always had to elave the game becasue he was dead tired. now he can run deep routes or make plays with a screen and come out and catch his breath without making our offense inept by taking him out.
__________________
"I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis
SKINSnCANES is offline   Reply With Quote

Advertisements
Old 04-26-2008, 11:42 PM   #767
Special Teams
 
Soup's Uncle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Damascus, MD
Posts: 354
Re: The official 2008 draft discussion thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by XXVI View Post
Call me crazy, but we may just offer Moss and next years first for CJ? Any takers?
I was thinking the exact same thing...make it happen Vinny!
Soup's Uncle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2008, 11:46 PM   #768
MVP
 
12thMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: washington, D.C.
Posts: 11,458
Re: The official 2008 draft discussion thread

Still love the Davis pick. Hahaha
12thMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2008, 11:46 PM   #769
The Starter
 
skinsnut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,224
Re: The official 2008 draft discussion thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by SKINSnCANES View Post
Youre completely right, which is why we cut Llyod and why ARE and Moss are going to become more situational. Which they will be amazing at...using ARE for trick plays wehre he throws...Moss for the deep ball.

Gibbs ran screen or hail marys with moss last year. he always had to elave the game becasue he was dead tired. now he can run deep routes or make plays with a screen and come out and catch his breath without making our offense inept by taking him out.
Well...my concerns about overcompensating on O....and ignoring bigger needs will have to wait until tommorrow...
If we do well and shore up both lines and secondary with our highest picks...it could be a great draft....
But lets be honest here....aint no way we get an impact pass rusher with whats left....hopefully Chris Wilson and Andre Carter can handle that!
__________________
I hate Dallas...Period
skinsnut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2008, 11:46 PM   #770
Special Teams
 
XXVI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Just win baby
Posts: 140
Re: The official 2008 draft discussion thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Soup's Uncle View Post
I was thinking the exact same thing...make it happen Vinny!

HTTR


QB - Jason Campbell
RB - Clinton Portis/Ladell Betts
TE - Fred Davis
TE/HBack - Chris Cooley
WR - Devin Thomas
WR - Malcolm Kelly
WR - Chad Johnson

OMFG SB SB SB SB!!!
__________________
He's super smart, and plays his guts out.
XXVI is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2008, 11:52 PM   #771
Franchise Player
 
jsarno's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: 31 Spooner St.
Age: 39
Posts: 9,534
Re: The official 2008 draft discussion thread

Alright guys, I need good reasons why we took this TE. Here is his scouting report from ESPN:
There were concerns about Davis' ability to stretch the field before the combine, and his slow 40 time backed up what we saw on film. He isn't an overwhelming in-line blocker, either, but he does a good job getting in position and he fights to sustain his blocks. In addition, he has the athletic ability, big hands and long arms to emerge as a reliable possession receiver.

I admittedly know nothing about this guy / pick, but my initial reaction is that we screwed the perverbial pooch. Please give me reasons to get on board with this.
__________________
Zoltan is ZESTY! - courtesy of joeredskin
jsarno is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2008, 11:52 PM   #772
Pro Bowl
 
Beemnseven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Virginia Beach
Age: 40
Posts: 5,293
Re: The official 2008 draft discussion thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by skinsnut View Post
I saw the play and it is cool...
My point has more to do with using top picks for folks on the bench when we need starters on the Dline and elsewhere.

On that particular play...there were 2 TE and 2 WR....that leave either our 2 current top WRs on the bench, or our 2 new top picks.

In an ideal world....I would have liked to use one of these top picks on the Dline because, hell, they'd be a full time starter at minimum by 09
My point.....Talent does nothing when it aint in the game.
I know. Believe me, I've been banging the 'draft D-line' drum for years. But others have said it, and they're right -- defense hasn't really been the problem -- offense has. There was a reason Gibbs deferred to the D time and time again over the past few seasons -- he knew his offense wasn't going to get the job done.

As to your point about leaving our two new picks on the bench in 2 TE sets, what makes you think they'll be on the bench? I have a feeling we're in for another shock at the wideout position in the coming months because Zorn has seen the tapes, and apparently doesn't like what he sees with Moss/Randle El.

I never expected to be able to fill all of our needs this weekend, and I'm not holding my breath that they'll unearth a diamond for a pass rusher tomorrow. I guess the defense is satisfied with the pressure they can generate, so we'll just have to make do with what we have. Blache has already said you can expect to see more aggressive blitz packages than you did under Williams.

If these guys taken today can help put more points on the board, I think you'll be happy. And so will the defense.
Beemnseven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2008, 11:53 PM   #773
Impact Rookie
 
Bill B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 721
Re: The official 2008 draft discussion thread

Lets hope the Skins target the lines tommorow. I think what people need to remember is the draft is not an exact science - there are going to be busts and gems and overall I think we have to give the FO a good grade - they were able to trade down and acquire more picks, which to me is always a positive as it allows teams more chances to find good players and it also helps out with the cap as the contract demands are a lot lower for these 2nd round and below compared to high first round picks. Just think there are bound to be some busts high in the first round and all that signing bonus money will become dead cap money at some point and the Skins have been able to avoid this pitfall. Yeah we focused totally on the offense, but I think we got good value for the picks. Also as far as lineman go remember I believe that some of the Hogs were undrafted/lower round picks, so don't despair till the whole process is done.
Bill B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2008, 11:53 PM   #774
Pro Bowl
 
Beemnseven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Virginia Beach
Age: 40
Posts: 5,293
Re: The official 2008 draft discussion thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by SKINSnCANES View Post
and the Patriots added Stallworth, traded for Wes Welker, and then traded picks for Randy Moss...and they had just drafted Bethel Johnson, and Ben Watson... all they have to show is 75 TDs last year...
Yes. When in doubt, ask yourself, what would the Patriots and Colts do?
Beemnseven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2008, 12:07 AM   #775
Franchise Player
 
jsarno's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: 31 Spooner St.
Age: 39
Posts: 9,534
Re: The official 2008 draft discussion thread

Seriously...there is no one that thinks Davis is good pick here????
__________________
Zoltan is ZESTY! - courtesy of joeredskin
jsarno is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2008, 12:09 AM   #776
The Starter
 
skinsnut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,224
Re: The official 2008 draft discussion thread

This Fred Davis dude couldn't have been the best value pick, check out some draft sites...he's ranked anywhere from 51-74....we picked him 48....and there were other guys available ranked a lot higher....I am really scratching my head why we did not go value OR need with that one.

Of course I hope they know something about Fred Davis that no one else seems to know.
They sure did their research with Cooley...and that worked out pretty well.
Maybe our staff knows how to find great TEs.....I hope.
__________________
I hate Dallas...Period
skinsnut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2008, 12:09 AM   #777
You did WHAT?!?
 
EARTHQUAKE2689's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: In The Kitchen With Dyna.
Age: 25
Posts: 12,236
Re: The official 2008 draft discussion thread

one guy did i forgot who
__________________
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpp3ycMvQd0

This is why you need Mentos. To justify your questionable problem solving skills.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7geP5ev0VI

Awesome isn't it.
EARTHQUAKE2689 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2008, 12:09 AM   #778
Impact Rookie
 
WillH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 976
Re: The official 2008 draft discussion thread

how well you think we'll get graded for these picks (not that it means anything)?
WillH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2008, 12:10 AM   #779
The Starter
 
budw38's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Northern,Va.
Posts: 2,424
Re: The official 2008 draft discussion thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by SKINSnCANES View Post
and the Patriots added Stallworth, traded for Wes Welker, and then traded picks for Randy Moss...and they had just drafted Bethel Johnson, and Ben Watson... all they have to show is 75 TDs last year...
Good , we should get 60 tds this year . Rumor has it that a few teams took Kelly off their draft boards < knee's > . I have a friend in Houston that had mentioned that a few weeks ago . NFL Draftcountdown.com has that on the scouting report for M. Kelly .
budw38 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2008, 12:10 AM   #780
‎\m/
 
Mattyk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Age: 42
Posts: 83,576
Re: The official 2008 draft discussion thread

How about a none option to the poll?

The more I think about it the more I like what we came away with when you're talking about value for where we picked these guys.
__________________
Support The Warpath! | Warpath Shop
Mattyk is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:00 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site is not officially affiliated with the Washington Redskins or the NFL.
Page generated in 0.45109 seconds with 10 queries

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC5

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25