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A 60 20.48%
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C 40 13.65%
D 4 1.37%
F 3 1.02%
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Old 04-28-2008, 08:05 PM   #166
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Just to be clear, my stance on the receivers is as follows

-At this moment Santana Moss is unquestionably our most valuable wide receiver. When healthy, he's a game changer. I think he's perfectly capable of being a #1 WR. HOWEVER, he needs a solid #2 on the other side of the field from him. FURTHERMORE, he has not been able to stay consistently healthy.

-Randle El is a solid WR who is probably a bit in over his head trying to be a #2 WR. Particualarly when the #1 is Santana Moss

-I have the utmost respect for Caldwell, McCardell, and Thrash. Solid contributors who, for the most part, did their part. But two are gone. And the third probably needs to go soon. Plus we can't fall back on guys like that and the Jimmy Farris' of the world each time we have injuries to our wide receivers, which has happened plenty the last several years (Patten, Lloyd, ARE, Moss, Thrash all out for extended games)

-I'm sure Mix has plenty of potential. Let's see it

-Devin Thomas' upside is...unknown. I was stunned he fell to us.

-As is Malcolm Kelly's. Yet I think Kelly will have the more immediate impact. I think over the next several years, Moss and Thomas will be our star WRs. But they should be thanking Malcolm Kelly for making it easy for them. I was thrilled we got him when we got him.

-When I say no one to throw to, I mean if the starters are hurt.

-What I'd like to see this year. Moss 1, Kelly 2, ARE/Thomas 3 (and then we'll see about the rest)

-So I don't think my opinion has changed. I want to give Moss every opportunity to be the #1 WR. He's earned it. But he needs help and he needs to stay healthy.
Alright, so maybe the "if you don't have anyone to throw" to clause doesn't apply to the Redskins, then?

Just clarifying/playing devil's advocate.

I would also like to see Kelly and Moss start, but early on this year, it seems to be more likely to be Randle El and Moss.
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Old 04-28-2008, 08:12 PM   #167
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Sorry I'll spell out my position more clearly from the beginning for you next time
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Old 04-28-2008, 09:02 PM   #168
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Ten biggest winners
1. Jason Campbell, quarterback, Washington -- He implored management to deliver big receivers in the draft, and it responded with tight end Fred Davis and Oklahoma's Malcolm Kelly. Nice. Better yet, the Redskins added Michigan State's Devin Thomas, who might be the best receiver out there.

National Football League - CBSSports.com

I can't say I'd ever heard Campbell make this request. But he definitely emerged a winner.
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Old 04-28-2008, 09:35 PM   #169
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I didn't because all the touchdowns went to Cooley, who just can't be covered in the red zone.
That still doesn't change the overall ineffectiveness of Moss and ARE when it comes to the red zone. It's great that we have Cooley but how much more dangerous could we be with multiple options in that area?
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Old 04-28-2008, 09:40 PM   #170
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That still doesn't change the overall ineffectiveness of Moss and ARE when it comes to the red zone. It's great that we have Cooley but how much more dangerous could we be with multiple options in that area?
A little bit, but ultimately, none of these picks help the running game (well, Rinehart should, and to an extent, so does Davis), and that was the real problem in the red zone.
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Old 04-28-2008, 10:15 PM   #171
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A little bit, but ultimately, none of these picks help the running game (well, Rinehart should, and to an extent, so does Davis), and that was the real problem in the red zone.
I think these moves do help Portis. With these bigger targets and multiple formations in the red zone, teams will no longer stack the box to stuff Portis. CP was the obvious target inside the 5. These additions should open things up for him across the field.
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Old 04-28-2008, 10:45 PM   #172
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I think these moves do help Portis. With these bigger targets and multiple formations in the red zone, teams will no longer stack the box to stuff Portis. CP was the obvious target inside the 5. These additions should open things up for him across the field.
Does anyone remember previous discussion about Portis? He wants to be part of the passing game and I think he will have a better opportunity thanks to our picks.
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Old 04-29-2008, 06:57 AM   #173
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I guess you didn't mind Moss and ARE combining for 4 TDs last year?
I think a lot of that had to do with the playcalling and QB.
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Old 04-29-2008, 07:11 AM   #174
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I think if you have guys like Caldwell and McCardell playing key roles along with 2 starters who went half the season with no TDs, you've got some issues at WR.
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Old 04-29-2008, 07:25 PM   #175
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B-

We did a brilliant job trading picks, we got a lot of great value out of our picks, we addressed some key needs, but we also ignored some key needs, and I'm not particularly impressed with the Colt Brennan pick. If we had addressed our D-line earlier I would not hesitate to give the Skins an A+.
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Old 04-29-2008, 07:27 PM   #176
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Our Wr's production was completely dictated by the play calling and QB. Just look at Patten... he sucked for us and now he is the #2 in N.O. and is doing alright for himself... Stats are not a good way to evaluate Wr's (ie: Moss was still the best in the league with the Raiders even though his stats weren't good)
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I think a lot of that had to do with the playcalling and QB.
and lack of depth when we had injuries
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LOL! You don't trust anyone from small schools?? If I went down the list of small school players that went on the become great NFL players we'd be here all day. But I'll give you one that's going into Canton this Aug. Darrell Green!
Ok so the list reads as follows.....

1. Darrell Green

Oh no we're doomed. Theres only one player on the list. Chad Rhinehart is going to show up to Redskin park look at his helmet and go, What is this suppose to do.

"Oh you wear it to protect your head"

"We never had those at Northern Iowa"

"What Helmets?"

"Well that and those things, I can't keep my eyes off them."

"What Cheerleaders?"

"No hot girls. Oh yeah we never had a big stack of paper either"

"You didn't have a playbook?!??!?!? Why did we draft you?"

"Cuz I'm Big"
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Old 04-30-2008, 12:37 PM   #179
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Ok so the list reads as follows.....

1. Darrell Green
Walter Payton

Jerry Rice

Gary Clark

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Meanwhile during practice Joe Bugel is teaching former App State standout Kearry Brown how to pull.

"OK Kearry now I'm going to teach you proper pulling technique, now you want to turn your body by flicking your elbow back and..."

"Coach, why are you teaching me to pull without a gun?"

"What? NO not that type of pulling"

"Well what type of pulling is there. I mean I've seen a horse pulling a wagon but thats about it."

"All right then I'm going to teach you pig wrestling right and pig wrestling left"

"Great coach"

"Now when I say pig wrestling right you're going to go right and hit the first "pig" you see"

"Awesome all right I'm ready,........which way is right?"
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