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| Camp Scrub Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Poolesville, MD
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| Re: Picking Kelly over Sweed I know some of the people on this board have mentioned it but Sweed has injury history of his own. I can't fault Kelly as a pick over Sweed. I get sick and tired of people making a big deal over timed speed. Releasing off the line is just as important as straigh ahead speed. If a receiver does not have good hand work and footwork off the line in the NFL they are not going to be able to showcase speed. Looking at Kelly's film he does play well off the line, he ran good routes and gained seperation at the college level. I know that was against some corners who were not NFL caliber, but Kelly was drawing most of the number one corners. Kelly has really strong hands and plays very well in the air. We have been lacking a receiver who is a good jump ball man for quite a long time. I'm not losing any sleep over picking Kelly over Sweed. |
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| Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: 31 Spooner St. Age: 38
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| Re: Picking Kelly over Sweed Quote:
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| | #33 |
| MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 51
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| Re: Picking Kelly over Sweed instead of joining the argument, let me pass out some kool aid. because im happy with the picks we made. i really wanted line help, but these are the guys we have. and this makes me smile, because i believe our offense will look totally different this year. in a good way
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| | #34 |
| Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Age: 25
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| Re: Picking Kelly over Sweed Well, I don't know why we are supposed to assume he might be able to accomplish physical feats that people with similar measurables to him simply have never, ever been able to accomplish. He looks for the world to see like a pretty good receiver prospect. Let's be honest here, I don't know what's so groundbreaking about pointing out that he's totally dissimmilar to the elite receivers in the game. I'm not even using any cool numbers or anything to arrive at that conclusion. I'm just pointing out the obvious. People are optimistic about the draft class, as rightly they should be this time of the year. I'm just lurking to point out realistic concepts that are being overlooked. Keyshawn Johnson, to me, epitomizes a receiver who did every thing right fundamentally, but never really was an elite player at his position, because that wasn't his game. Maybe there's a player that better epitomizes his upside, who I'm not thinking of, but I'm alright with what I'm saying nevertheless. Now, something I haven't said about Kelly yet is there is a certain degree of uncertainty around scouting him that worries me a tad. That "has been charted with one dropped pass" doesn't mean a lot because he skipped his Senior season. If he stayed, he might have dropped 7-8 passes and been a fifth round draft pick. Who knows? That's the uncertainty effect working here. I am optimistic about his progression however, and based on what the teams knew, it looks like a lot of other teams passed on him for piss poor reasons. And for that we should be fortunate. Although the fact that Kelly was still around at No. 51 (as well as Sweed, Manningham, etc.) really makes the "value" that was Devin Thomas look more like a reach. Just sayin.
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| Re: Picking Kelly over Sweed I'm not saying we're supposed to assume anything... but that's my point. Let's see how it plays out, that's all I'm sayin. |
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| | #36 |
| Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 30
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| Re: Picking Kelly over Sweed Didn't this guy run the same speed 40 as Jerry Rice? I'm not saying he's going to be Jerry Rice -- what I am saying is straight line speed may not be the best NFL indicator.
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| | #37 |
| You did WHAT?!? Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: In The Kitchen With Dyna. Age: 24
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| Re: Picking Kelly over Sweed How many times does anyone just run 40 yards in the NFL without changing direction at all?
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| | #38 |
| Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Age: 27
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| Re: Picking Kelly over Sweed every time you run a fade
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| | #39 |
| Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Herndon, Virginia Age: 20
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| Re: Picking Kelly over Sweed
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| You did WHAT?!? Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: In The Kitchen With Dyna. Age: 24
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| Re: Picking Kelly over Sweed so only 2 routes that Moss or Randle El or Devin Thomas can run. You dont have to be a bunner to be a good reciever. Remember game speed and timed speed 2 different things.
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| You did WHAT?!? Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: In The Kitchen With Dyna. Age: 24
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| Re: Picking Kelly over Sweed so the fade route that won the super bowl was 40 yards cause I could have sworn it was like 14
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| | #42 | |
| Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germantown, Md.
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| Re: Picking Kelly over Sweed Quote:
Too much is made of 40 times, with Kelly, his ability to explode off the the line, get position on DB's, and use his frame to shield defenders will be more important in this offense than straight line speed. His ability to go in the middle (where we hardly threw the ball at all last year) and make the tough catch to move the chains is just as valuable an asset as speed. I consider him a perfect comlement to Moss, and Randle El. As far a comparing him to Limas Sweed, only time will tell on that one. It's difficult to try to make a production comparison at this time because there's nothing to compare them too. We need to see them both play at the NFL level in order to make any determination. | |
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| | #43 |
| Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2004
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| Re: Picking Kelly over Sweed No one is going to mistake steve smith for Terrell Owens or Regie Wayne for Rnady Moss because although they are all WR they all play the game differently ... Johnson was one of the top WRs in the game until people focused on his attitude rather than his production ... I don't see how you can write Kelly off because he is similar to another NFL star who didn't quite live up to his extremely lofty expectations ... |
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| Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: 31 Spooner St. Age: 38
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| Re: Picking Kelly over Sweed Quote:
ps- if Kelly turns out to be the next Keyshawn Johnson, we got a STEAL!
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| | #45 |
| You did WHAT?!? Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: In The Kitchen With Dyna. Age: 24
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| Re: Picking Kelly over Sweed Also Malcolm Kelly is more explosive off the ball than Sweed is in my opinion.
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