Picking Kelly over Sweed

bedlamVR · 05-04-2008, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Yeah, but the point was no one is going to confuse Keyshawn Johnson for Steve Smith/Terrell Owens/Randy Moss/Chad Johnson/Torry Holt.

That's the kind of player Malcolm Kelly can never be. A very good player is something he can be.

No one is going to mistake steve smith for Terrell Owens or Regie Wayne for Rnady Moss because although they are all WR they all play the game differently ... Johnson was one of the top WRs in the game until people focused on his attitude rather than his production ... I don't see how you can write Kelly off because he is similar to another NFL star who didn't quite live up to his extremely lofty expectations ...

jsarno · 05-04-2008, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by bedlamVR

No one is going to mistake steve smith for Terrell Owens or Regie Wayne for Rnady Moss because although they are all WR they all play the game differently ... Johnson was one of the top WRs in the game until people focused on his attitude rather than his production ... I don't see how you can write Kelly off because he is similar to another NFL star who didn't quite live up to his extremely lofty expectations ...

Good post.

ps- if Kelly turns out to be the next Keyshawn Johnson, we got a STEAL!

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 05-06-2008, 08:34 PM

Also Malcolm Kelly is more explosive off the ball than Sweed is in my opinion.

That Guy · 05-07-2008, 04:55 AM

sweed seems more like a bust... i mean, i don't think any of this year's WRs were locks for pro bowls, but sweed would probably be #7 or 8 on my list, which puts him deep in the 3rd round.

GTripp0012 · 05-07-2008, 01:09 PM

Sweed is somewhat enticing because he is a 4 year senior in the middle of a heavily Junior class, but that wrist injury does make him a less-appealing guy from an experience standpoint.

For now, I'll take Kelly over Sweed, but I'm going to follow Sweed's career closely, he'll be an interesting case study.

I believe that the Redskins probably had Kelly overrated on their own board, but at the spot where they actually drafted him, the only foul was that the need was theoretically filled at that point. The value was excellent.

Dirtbag359 · 05-07-2008, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Sweed is somewhat enticing because he is a 4 year senior in the middle of a heavily Junior class, but that wrist injury does make him a less-appealing guy from an experience standpoint.

For now, I'll take Kelly over Sweed, but I'm going to follow Sweed's career closely, he'll be an interesting case study.

I believe that the Redskins probably had Kelly overrated on their own board, but at the spot where they actually drafted him, the only foul was that the need was theoretically filled at that point. The value was excellent.

The thing I hated about Sweed was the fact that he didn't seem to show up in big games, but when he played against the Rice's and North Texas he pwn3d n00bs. Plus thinking of that wrist injury makes me feel uneasy, not his durability, just the idea of a wrist that can't move much but makes cracking noises when it does.

Dirtbag359 · 05-07-2008, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

Didn't this guy run the same speed 40 as Jerry Rice? I'm not saying he's going to be Jerry Rice -- what I am saying is straight line speed may not be the best NFL indicator.

While we're on it, can anyone think of a straight line more important then the 40 yard dash?

dmek25 · 05-07-2008, 03:41 PM

game speed is the most important thing, when having this conversation. Jerry Rice wasn't the fastest 40 guy, but i cant ever remember him being caught from behind

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 05-07-2008, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

While we're on it, can anyone think of a straight line more important then the 40 yard dash?

The 100 Meter Dash

SouperMeister · 05-07-2008, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I think Malcolm Kelly can be a very valuable player for us for a long time and DEFINATELY seems to be a good value pick at 51. Problem is that his speed issues do prevent him from having the potential to develop into a top of the line receiver.

Still, I'm happy we have him.

40 yard time is incredibly overrated. Jerry Rice and Cris Carter both ran around 4.7 and they did nothing but make plays. We drafted Taylor Jacobs over Anquan Boldin after Boldin ran a 4.7. I've said it before, and it bears repeating, put more stock in game footage than the combine, film doesn't lie. Had we heeded the Rose Bowl film of Desmond Howard struggling to get off the line against a physical Washington Huskies D, we might have avoided that bust.

Kelly looks great on film and good luck to CBs that try jamming him at the line of scrimmage.

05-06-2008, 08:34 PM	#48 (permalink)
EARTHQUAKE2689 Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Whizzing behind a bush Posts: 6,298	Re: Picking Kelly over Sweed Also Malcolm Kelly is more explosive off the ball than Sweed is in my opinion. __________________ *And if humans shit from their mouths, more people would choke to death.*

05-07-2008, 04:55 AM	#49 (permalink)
That Guy Gleaming Turds since 2004 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Springfield, VA Posts: 13,823	Re: Picking Kelly over Sweed sweed seems more like a bust... i mean, i don't think any of this year's WRs were locks for pro bowls, but sweed would probably be #7 or 8 on my list, which puts him deep in the 3rd round. __________________ Who says shameless self promotion is stupid? oh yeah, that was me... Click For Tunes!

05-07-2008, 01:09 PM	#50 (permalink)
GTripp0012 Jason Campbell: Franchise QB Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 6,331	Re: Picking Kelly over Sweed Sweed is somewhat enticing because he is a 4 year senior in the middle of a heavily Junior class, but that wrist injury does make him a less-appealing guy from an experience standpoint. For now, I'll take Kelly over Sweed, but I'm going to follow Sweed's career closely, he'll be an interesting case study. I believe that the Redskins probably had Kelly overrated on their own board, but at the spot where they actually drafted him, the only foul was that the need was theoretically filled at that point. The value was excellent. __________________ "It's mind-boggling to me, really. Look at the tape. Look at my impact on the game. The guys who make it are good players, and I'm not saying I'm better than all of them. But I wish people would watch the games, watch the tape." - London Fletcher on his pro bowl candidacy.

05-07-2008, 03:41 PM	#53 (permalink)
dmek25 Franchise Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Posts: 8,011	Re: Picking Kelly over Sweed game speed is the most important thing, when having this conversation. Jerry Rice wasn't the fastest 40 guy, but i cant ever remember him being caught from behind __________________ may god save us from these imbeciles courtesy of saden

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