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Old 01-05-2009, 10:43 PM   #46
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Re: Questions that might effect the DRAFT

After reading about the cap, (I must admit that I didn't know too much about it until this year) it's almost certain that most of these guys are going to be back next year as far as the O-line is concerned. If they trade up or trade down, quaility or quantity isn't a big issue with me as long as they see that it's a problem and try to address it with the draft and FA. We shouldn't neglect our defense either. Being able to do both of these things is near impossible in one off season. Next year we'll be posting about how we need a new running back after Clinton Portis collapses from exhaustion.
I like the idea of trading down and getting Robinson. I'm hoping we'll pick up Everrett Brown. I don't care if he's not built for our kind of offense. We'll have to wait and see. As long as they don't trade all of our picks for mercenaries and actually pick someone then I'll be happy.
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I'm trying, but I can't find any reason to get excited about the Texas-Ohio State match-up. It's like these two teams are running in jell-o.
I wanted to see how Boone would do against Orakpo. Looked like he was doing alright the last I saw but I lost interest and forgot it was still on.
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Re: Questions that might effect the DRAFT

Do you think we should be drafting lineman from teams that run a west coast offense or do you think that any lineman can be trained to play in it??
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Old 01-06-2009, 12:47 AM   #49
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After reading about the cap, (I must admit that I didn't know too much about it until this year) it's almost certain that most of these guys are going to be back next year as far as the O-line is concerned. If they trade up or trade down, quaility or quantity isn't a big issue with me as long as they see that it's a problem and try to address it with the draft and FA. We shouldn't neglect our defense either. Being able to do both of these things is near impossible in one off season. Next year we'll be posting about how we need a new running back after Clinton Portis collapses from exhaustion.
I like the idea of trading down and getting Robinson. I'm hoping we'll pick up Everrett Brown. I don't care if he's not built for our kind of offense. We'll have to wait and see. As long as they don't trade all of our picks for mercenaries and actually pick someone then I'll be happy.
Isn't he the DT from FSU?
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Isn't he the DT from FSU?
DE from FSU. Yeah.
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Old 01-06-2009, 08:47 AM   #51
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Re: Questions that might effect the DRAFT

i see it like this, if we release Marcus Washington, then our first round pick will be a linebacker. If we retain him I can see this pick being either O or D linemen.
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I have heard allot about how bad Thomas was many times here at the Warpath. The fact is, that I cant tell if it is true or not, but he is a pro bowl alternate. I never really thought he played bad. I think to the normal football fan, it is allot harder for us to tell if interior linemen are doing their job. When it came to Jansen it was obvious that he was struggling.
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I think it is really foolish to be counting on Kendall OR Rinehardt at LG next year. Kendall is going to be 36 I think, and has arthritic knees. Rinehardt, I actually recall hearing about him getting repeatedly blown up in training camp, and the fact that we were desperate for O-line this year, and he was never even active tells me he has a long way to go. I think we need to draft a starting LG as badly as we need a starting RT. We need quality players, not just bodies. Better have somebody ready to step in for Casey also. Good luck Vinny.
Kendall is old but he played well last year AND he wants to return next year. I'm just using the eye-ball test from watching games this season (and re-watching in most cases) and i remember Thomas getting beat and pushed back or missing a block more often then Kendall. And Kendall didn't miss a game. He is not a long term answer but IMO is a better short term answer then Thomas.

If i was rating the line play i'd have it like this:
Samuels
Kendall
Rabach
Heyer
Jansen
Thomas
Fabini
Rinehart??
Geisinger??
Devin Clark??

I have a hard time beleiving that Rinehart was somehow not ready to play.
I distinctly remember how people and coaches raved about Rinehart all summer and pre-season then don't play him, even when their were injuries. This makes no sense to me. The Redskins reluctance to play rookies and stick with veterans is mind boggling. IMO if you put in an old guy and they struggle its only gonna get worse but, if you play a young guy at least they can improve. IMO you can't wait on rookies anymore, more then ever the time is now in the NFL, so many other teams were forced to play their rookie or young back-up lineman and their offensive lines didn't miss a beat in many cases it improved.

Allowing Jansen to struggle, then playing Fabini, who was decent at G last year, at T when he was hurt didn't make sense. Especially since Fabini was terrible there why not out in the kid? He seriously couldn't have play any worse.

My thoughts for next year's line:
Samuels LT, Rinehart LG, Rabach C, Kendall RG, *Rookie RT*
+*Rookie* Center
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I wanted to see how Boone would do against Orakpo. Looked like he was doing alright the last I saw but I lost interest and forgot it was still on.
I made a point to watch Orakpo. He did OK but it looked to my old eyes that he took some plays off and didn't pursue the way I expected. He certainly doesn't have the motor of Everette Brown who, IMO, is the better player.

I didn't know that Alex Boone was a top prospect until I read this thread this morning, but he definitely caught my eye during the game. I thought he played very well against Orakpo.
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I made a point to watch Orakpo. He did OK but it looked to my old eyes that he took some plays off and didn't pursue the way I expected. He certainly doesn't have the motor of Everette Brown who, IMO, is the better player.

I didn't know that Alex Boone was a top prospect until I read this thread this morning, but he definitely caught my eye during the game. I thought he played very well against Orakpo.
Boone is projected to go around the 5th round. I was just hoping maybe we could get a decent linemen with that pick.
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Boone is projected to go around the 5th round. I was just hoping maybe we could get a decent linemen with that pick.


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Old 01-07-2009, 11:59 AM   #56
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I agree in regards to Kendall, but it perpetuates the problem of this old-line. Definitely need to give these young guys a fair shot next year and despite Heyer starting over Jansen at the beginning of the season I still think Joe Bugle has a strong tendency of leaning towards veterans.

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Old 01-07-2009, 11:22 PM   #57
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Re: Questions that might effect the DRAFT

Trade down to get get Knowshon Moreno and a second round pick
Then draft a C that can play guard: Alex Mack, Max Unger...
Attempt to get Portis to restructure so he can get traded...
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Old 01-09-2009, 04:09 AM   #58
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If Taylor Mays falls to 13, you grab him. Horton's been a pleasant surprise, but Mays is the closest prototype to a Sean Taylor-potential safety since Swoop... 6-3, 235 and runs a 4.2. Fast as a gazelle and hits like a truck.

* Edit: SC insiders are now saying he's actually going to stay for his senior year. Wow... this dude was a lock to go top 15.

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Old 01-09-2009, 09:22 AM   #59
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everyone repeat after me, we need lineman. not the best available, lineman. on both sides of the ball. and lineman that aren't projects. lineman that are expected to step up and play, right away
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Old 01-09-2009, 01:23 PM   #60
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Isn't he the DT from FSU?
Yeah I screwed that up. I was told he was built for a 3-4 DEFFENSE and wouldn't work on ours.
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