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Old 01-23-2009, 03:44 PM   #46
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Cushing is a 2nd rounder IMO, Loadholt will be taken in the 2nd, but he will play RT in the NFL...heard he gets beat easily by elite speed rushers...possibly a bust...dude IS a big guy--pushin' 350lbs.
They say the same thing about Andre Smith. I couldn't think of anyone else to put in there and hopefully they'll trade down. I'll bet you a silver eagle they do. Besides Everrett Brown, most of my first picks are late first to early second round guys. Seeing how we don't have a second rounder . . . .
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Old 01-23-2009, 09:36 PM   #47
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Alright White Boi J,
I've given some thought about it and came up with a more realistic pick.

Given the rules of the thread here's what I would do if I were VC, granted these player are on the board when we get to them. I'll do some more homework and post on the Vinny trades down thread of what I think he'll do. (What I'd like him to do.) Starting left to right, left being my first pick:

(13th) DT BJ Raji, OT Jason Smith, DE Everrett Brown, OT Eben Brown.

(80th) OLB Clay Mathews, C Jonathan Luigs, C Antoine Caldwell, OT Alex Boone.

(111th) OG Ray Feinga, OLB Zack Follet.

(173rd) DE Lawrence Sidbury, FB Quinn Johnson.

Under no circumstances would I get: QB, WR, TE, S, K, P, LS.

I can't see them going after another running back unless they trade Betts or Rock. I can't see either one of them leaving unless someone makes it really worth their while. If they had wanted another running back then they'd have picked up Mason. I can see them wanting another RB in the future in the mold of Barber and Jacobs. I wouldn't do it this year.

Seeing how Sellers is the only full back on the roster, they use him on special teams, he blocks for CP constantly, and they throw the ball to him periodically. I'd get another one in the last round or next year just in case he comes down the wrong way on one of those famous leaps of his.

If Rogers is traded or Springs isn't moved to safety and cut then I can see them picking up a CB in the last round. I wouldn't pick one though.

Our receivers are what they are and we can't sign more right now.

They've already stated that there will be kicker and punter competition in training camp, meaning Suisham and Plackemeir will have to compete with other journeymen. I wouldn't waste another pick on a kicker.

VC would be stupid not to go after the choices I've oulined at least at the position level. Everyone knows what they need. If they're smart they'll follow the same pattern for the next couple of drafts with a RB, ILB, and Safety thrown in for good measure. CP and London are getting worn down and I can't get that image of Landry getting run over by Jacobs out of my head.

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Old 01-23-2009, 09:46 PM   #48
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Trample the Elderly - I like that draft a little better, but I'd say in 3rd round we have to pick up one of the interior lineman b/c there are lots of good G/C that are 3rd round prospects. I'd especially go G/C in 3rd if we take Raji in the 1st.

This would be a step in the right direction for VC, and give JZ more to work with. I honestly think that if we can get Raji, that would be WAY better than drafting a DE....I heard Raji is dominating all the top OL prospects in 1 on 1 drills. Even if he doesn't get any sacks, he would require a double team, thus allowing 1 of our 6 blitzers to go un-touched....i'd get pissed when i'd see us blitz 6 and not see us get past the line of scrimmage.
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Trample the Elderly - I like that draft a little better, but I'd say in 3rd round we have to pick up one of the interior lineman b/c there are lots of good G/C that are 3rd round prospects. I'd especially go G/C in 3rd if we take Raji in the 1st.

This would be a step in the right direction for VC, and give JZ more to work with. I honestly think that if we can get Raji, that would be WAY better than drafting a DE....I heard Raji is dominating all the top OL prospects in 1 on 1 drills. Even if he doesn't get any sacks, he would require a double team, thus allowing 1 of our 6 blitzers to go un-touched....i'd get pissed when i'd see us blitz 6 and not see us get past the line of scrimmage.
I see your reasoning and it's good. My thoughts are this. They're going to move Jansen to guard, not because it's a good football move, but because of salary cap issues. That's also true with a lot of the O-line. Seeing how everyone is smitten with Raji and he'll probably be gone the next best guy is Jason Smith. That's assuming that the he's the best OT falling to us. RT has to be filled. I can see a younger free agent coming in to fill a hole if Kendall isn't signed. And this team likes to take it's sweet ass time with O-line men.

With Marcus Washington probably on his way out and if Clay Mathews is there, I'd think they'd be foolish not to get him.

If those centers are there in the third like you say then yes pick one. I'm not impressed with Unger though and Alex Mack will be gone by then.
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I see your reasoning and it's good. My thoughts are this. They're going to move Jansen to guard, not because it's a good football move, but because of salary cap issues. That's also true with a lot of the O-line. Seeing how everyone is smitten with Raji and he'll probably be gone the next best guy is Jason Smith. That's assuming that the he's the best OT falling to us. RT has to be filled. I can see a younger free agent coming in to fill a hole if Kendall isn't signed. And this team likes to take it's sweet ass time with O-line men.

With Marcus Washington probably on his way out and if Clay Mathews is there, I'd think they'd be foolish not to get him.

If those centers are there in the third like you say then yes pick one. I'm not impressed with Unger though and Alex Mack will be gone by then.
Ya i'd love for Jason Smith to drop to us, b/c he could start at LT and Samuels could move to RT....Jansen could be used to spell Samuels, or just straight back him up until Samuels gets hurt. lol. Then Heyer or Rinehart could play LG, and we wouldn't have to re-sign kendall. ORRR move Jansen to LG and have Heyer and Samuels split time, cause even though Samuels still has like 4 years left on his contract, i think he might retire before then...if not, it'll keep Samuels healthy for the whole season by only having to play half a game.

if we take a C in the 3rd round, that'll finish up the majority of the over-haul on OL, and next draft we can concentrate on the D front 7 in 1st and 2nd, and another G/C in 3rd or 4th
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Old 01-24-2009, 05:31 PM   #51
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1st: Aaron Curry OLB, Wake Forest (most complete LB coming into the NFL. Barring injury, defensive rookie of the year)

3rd:Fili Moala DT, USC (I've seen him in some mocks at lower 1st round or mid 4th. He certainly benefited from being with such a great defense but if he's available here then he more than fits a need).
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I would trade down 1st and 3rd pick into three second round picks. I would draft:
1. William Beaty (OT, 2nd)
2. Evander Hood(DT, 2nd)
3. Brian Robiskie(WR, 2nd)
4. Jason Williams(LB, 5th)
5. Greg Isdaner(OG, 6th)

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I would trade down 1st and 3rd pick into three second round picks. I would draft:
1. William Beaty (OT, 2nd)
2. Evander Hood(DT, 2nd)
3. Brian Robinski(WR, 2nd)
4. Jason Williams(LB, 5th)
5. Greg Isdaner(OG, 6th)
So...did you read the first post or the thread title?
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I would trade down 1st and 3rd pick into three second round picks. I would draft:
1. William Beaty (OT, 2nd)
2. Evander Hood(DT, 2nd)
3. Brian Robinski(WR, 2nd)
4. Jason Williams(LB, 5th)
5. Greg Isdaner(OG, 6th)
Who knows how Robinski might or might not turn out at the next level. But after last years draft, why in the world would you WASTE a draft pick on a WR in the 2nd round in your scenario.....?

We have 2 wideouts and a TE from last year we need to look at. Not WASTE more picks. WR is not even close to being on the priority list IMO!
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Old 02-15-2009, 09:41 PM   #55
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Who knows how Robinski might or might not turn out at the next level. But after last years draft, why in the world would you WASTE a draft pick on a WR in the 2nd round in your scenario.....?

We have 2 wideouts and a TE from last year we need to look at. Not WASTE more picks. WR is not even close to being on the priority list IMO!
I love the kid and I would replace Thrash, with him.
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Revised:

(13th) C Alex Mack

(80th) OLB Clay Mathews

(111th) T Joel Bell

(173rd) DT Sammie Lee Hill

Yes I know Mack is a late 1st but the rules of the thread says no trade downs. So there it is.
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So...did you read the first post or the thread title?
Sorry Smootsmack, but in my mind, this gets us to the superbowl, as long as Jason campbell finally does something.
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Sorry Smootsmack, but in my mind, this gets us to the superbowl, as long as Jason campbell finally does something.
That's great that you think that (I disagree, but that's great you think that nonetheless)...still, what would you do if you couldn't trade down or up or out.
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That's great that you think that (I disagree, but that's great you think that nonetheless)...still, what would you do if you couldn't trade down or up or out.
1. Michael Oher(OT, 1st)
3. Brian Robiskie(WR, 3rd)
5. Jason Williams(LB, 5th)
6. Greg Isdaner(OG, 6th)

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1. Michael Oher(OT, 1st)
3. Brian Robinski(WR, 2nd)
5. Jason Williams(LB, 5th)
6. Greg Isdaner(OG, 6th)
Cool...as long as you're hyping the guy you should know that it's Robiskie (not Robinski)
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