Jarron Gilbert - DT SJSU

Daseal · 02-17-2009, 10:37 AM

Anyone know much about this guy? Todd McShay was talking about him in ESPN earlier. Looked him up. Some crazy videos. McShay said something about a lot of untapped talent, he's a bit of a project but he would probably slip to one of our mid round picks.

Anyone know where he's slated to go (I realize pre-combine everything is due to change) or know much about him?

YouTube - Jarron Gilbert jumps out of pool

-- Video of him jumping, fully submerged out of a pool onto the ledge.

YouTube - Jarron Gilbert squat 635 and deadlift...

-- Squatting 635 dead lifting 655... If he works on his strength, one day he could rival me!

Redskin Warrior · 02-17-2009, 10:44 AM

impressive jump

SmootSmack · 02-17-2009, 10:50 AM

Very raw, some see him as more of a 3-4 DE. Probably a mid to late round pick (4th-6th round). Abiility to play both DT and DE, but maybe not as a starter (not yet at least). More of an athlete than a football player right now.

A great combine could push him up into maybe the 3rd round, but I think most teams see him as an extremely intriguing prospect, but could be several years away and that risk makes him less likely to be drafted too high.

That jump out of the pool is sick though

SmootSmack · 02-17-2009, 10:51 AM

Just a quick reminder: Let's be sure to post draft related threads in the NFL Draft Central forum. Thanks

Ruhskins · 02-17-2009, 10:51 AM

Ok, how can we make the pool jump part of the NFL Combine? Can you imagine havin an offensive tackle trying to do that? It'd be hilarious!

Daseal · 02-17-2009, 11:11 AM

Sorry SS -- Dock me rep points!

firstdown · 02-17-2009, 11:14 AM

Does FedEx have a pool?

TheMalcolmConnection · 02-17-2009, 11:31 AM

This guy reminds me of that one from Hampton (I think?) last year who had these insane measurables. I think his speed scores were better than all the RBs and he was a DE.

Daseal · 02-17-2009, 11:35 AM

The pool is just and indicator of his lower body strength. No doubt the kid is rough, but I feel like a project or two per draft is a good investment. Sometimes they turn it into something, sometimes they don't (McCune anyone?)

SmootSmack · 02-17-2009, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daseal

The pool is just and indicator of his lower body strength. No doubt the kid is rough, but I feel like a project or two per draft is a good investment. Sometimes they turn it into something, sometimes they don't (McCune anyone?)

It is, but not necessarily when you only have four picks

dmek25 · 02-17-2009, 12:42 PM

he doesnt even look that big. but just say no to a project. our picks have to be to play.

SBXVII · 02-17-2009, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmek25

he doesnt even look that big. but just say no to a project. our picks have to be to play.

Good luck with that thought. Your talking about the Skins actually playing a Rookie. Heyer got in cause of injuries. Thomas and Kelly barely got in and only cause they wanted to have a tall threat. Other teams picked up on the fact we were not throwing to them so they doubled Moss. Horton got in because of talent alone which is like 1 out of every 8-10 drafts.

Don't get me wrong I'm on the youth bandwagon cause they are usually heathier and are quicker to heal. Plus on D it's easier to stick someone in and say this is your job, watch your lane or simply go after the QB, cover this guy. But if you talking offense, I have a hard time immagining any new Rookie O-lineman getting to play unless he had an outstanding O-line coach in college teaching all the NFL mechanics. Again Heyer got lucky due to injuries.

Daseal · 02-17-2009, 02:06 PM

Building through the draft involves patience. Especially when seeing guys on the field. Some positions transition better than others. For instance, if we were going after a running back -- I would expect a rookie to be ready to go. However, QBs, WRs, CBs, etc typically have steep learning curves.

Anyone we draft I expect them to sit on the bench for at least a year, sometimes more. They may get in later as they pick up scheme and system. Or as we have a less than healthy team. But part of the problem with building through the draft is botht the team and its fans have to be very very patient to let players develop.

KLHJ2 · 02-17-2009, 03:19 PM

Now if only we can get the rules changed so that we can have DT's challenge each other to vertical jumps out of the pool. If the winner gets 6 points then we may have something there.

SKINSnCANES · 02-20-2009, 08:23 AM

Ive been reading about this guy and did a forum search, and it doesnt surprise me one bit that Daseal beat me to the punch!

Why does everyone assume he is just an athelete? He lead EVERYONE with 22 tackles for loss last year. Id be VERY surprised if he was around for our third round pick and was going to propose that if we trade down in the first and get a second that we hope hes available there. This guys stock is goign to go up and we need a big physical presence on the so bad.

I also agree with daseal about giving players time to grow and learn the game. But lets be honest here, how hard would it be to earn a starting spot on our defensive line? Our two DTs behind Griffin have 6.5 sacks combined in the last four years...

02-17-2009, 10:50 AM	#3
SmootSmack The Bluths Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,217	Re: Jarron Gilbert - DT SJSU Very raw, some see him as more of a 3-4 DE. Probably a mid to late round pick (4th-6th round). Abiility to play both DT and DE, but maybe not as a starter (not yet at least). More of an athlete than a football player right now. A great combine could push him up into maybe the 3rd round, but I think most teams see him as an extremely intriguing prospect, but could be several years away and that risk makes him less likely to be drafted too high. That jump out of the pool is sick though __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

02-17-2009, 10:51 AM	#4
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02-17-2009, 10:51 AM	#5
Ruhskins Gamebreaker Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Columbia, MD Age: 34 Posts: 14,613	Re: Jarron Gilbert - DT SJSU Ok, how can we make the pool jump part of the NFL Combine? Can you imagine havin an offensive tackle trying to do that? It'd be hilarious! __________________ R.I.P. #21 New words created on The Warpath: Rewalsr - Somretimes - Fualt - Jersesy - Itiot - Composetory Afeard - Storgn - Empliment - Gaissn - Saftys - Minnisota Faviort - Hatter - Phsyched - Foof - Heloing - Brutual Stroried Check out this cool local internet radio show Weds 7-9pm: The DC Sports Chat I sense an annoyance in the Force

02-17-2009, 11:11 AM	#6
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 30 Posts: 8,071	Re: Jarron Gilbert - DT SJSU Sorry SS -- Dock me rep points! __________________ Best. Player. Available.

02-17-2009, 11:14 AM	#7
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 49 Posts: 15,277	Re: Jarron Gilbert - DT SJSU Does FedEx have a pool?

02-17-2009, 11:31 AM	#8
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 31 Posts: 17,134	Re: Jarron Gilbert - DT SJSU This guy reminds me of that one from Hampton (I think?) last year who had these insane measurables. I think his speed scores were better than all the RBs and he was a DE. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

02-17-2009, 11:35 AM	#9
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 30 Posts: 8,071	Re: Jarron Gilbert - DT SJSU The pool is just and indicator of his lower body strength. No doubt the kid is rough, but I feel like a project or two per draft is a good investment. Sometimes they turn it into something, sometimes they don't (McCune anyone?) __________________ Best. Player. Available.

02-17-2009, 12:42 PM	#11
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 51 Posts: 10,448	Re: Jarron Gilbert - DT SJSU he doesnt even look that big. but just say no to a project. our picks have to be to play. __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

02-17-2009, 02:06 PM	#13
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 30 Posts: 8,071	Re: Jarron Gilbert - DT SJSU Building through the draft involves patience. Especially when seeing guys on the field. Some positions transition better than others. For instance, if we were going after a running back -- I would expect a rookie to be ready to go. However, QBs, WRs, CBs, etc typically have steep learning curves. Anyone we draft I expect them to sit on the bench for at least a year, sometimes more. They may get in later as they pick up scheme and system. Or as we have a less than healthy team. But part of the problem with building through the draft is botht the team and its fans have to be very very patient to let players develop. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

02-17-2009, 03:19 PM	#14
KLHJ2 Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: DC Metro Area Age: 34 Posts: 5,829	Re: Jarron Gilbert - DT SJSU Now if only we can get the rules changed so that we can have DT's challenge each other to vertical jumps out of the pool. If the winner gets 6 points then we may have something there.

02-20-2009, 08:23 AM	#15
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 31 Posts: 5,394	Re: Jarron Gilbert - DT SJSU Ive been reading about this guy and did a forum search, and it doesnt surprise me one bit that Daseal beat me to the punch! Why does everyone assume he is just an athelete? He lead EVERYONE with 22 tackles for loss last year. Id be VERY surprised if he was around for our third round pick and was going to propose that if we trade down in the first and get a second that we hope hes available there. This guys stock is goign to go up and we need a big physical presence on the so bad. I also agree with daseal about giving players time to grow and learn the game. But lets be honest here, how hard would it be to earn a starting spot on our defensive line? Our two DTs behind Griffin have 6.5 sacks combined in the last four years... __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

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