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Old 02-21-2009, 01:06 PM   #16
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Re: Database Update: Consensus Projections, DE, OT, and LB ranking links

Kind of what I've been talking about the past couple of weeks about concerns about Andre Smith's focus

NFL.com Blogs » Blog Archive Alabama OT Smith skips combine workout «

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Offensive tackle prospect Andre Smith said earlier this week he wasn’t sure whether he would work out for scouts at this week’s combine. Saturday, his decision became obvious, but in confusing fashion.

Not only did Smith skip Saturday’s workouts for offensive linemen, according to an announcement inside Lucas Oil Stadium for the benefit of scouts in attendance, there even was some question as to his actual whereabouts and conflicting stories about why he was missing on Saturday morning.
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Old 02-21-2009, 01:16 PM   #17
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Kind of what I've been talking about the past couple of weeks about concerns about Andre Smith's focus

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Wow. Get your sh*t together Andre. Millions of dollars and a career are at stake here buddy. This is a big red flag for him IMO. At one point he was being talked about as the #1 overall pick. If he can't pull it together long enough to put his best foot forward for the combine... If I were a GM, I would be pretty concerned about using a high pick on him. Plenty of guys who end up being busts work hard as hell to put up the necessary front(s) to come off as a solid draft pick. This guy can't even pretend to care.

Remember he was also suspended for Bama's BCS game vs. Utah.

EDIT: Apparently Mike Mayock of NFL Network agrees- Per PFT:

Smith, who isn’t working out at the combine because he’s admittedly not in shape, just got ripped big-time by NFL Network analyst Mike Mayock.
“I’m dropping him down on my list,” Mayock said. “You don’t show up in shape for the biggest job interview of your life. You don’t lift. You don’t run. You don’t show up. It’s the worst thing you can do. How can you not show up in shape for this?”
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If we don't get Mack at C there's another intriguing C out there, Juan Garcia out of the U of Washington. That guy is STRONG, he had like 30 some reps on the bench press and is a pretty decent player.
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Old 02-21-2009, 01:41 PM   #19
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Soooo...... even if he (A. Smith) falls to us we don't want him right? That leaves three top OTs who are all very likely to be gone by 13. It's looking more and more like a prime year to trade down but 1) who will want to trade w/ us to grab someone at 13 2) how are we going to find a real starter at RT, SLB later in the draft? Not looking very promising right now IMO.
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This kind of stuff hasn't been known to discourage VC in the past. He's much more about what players do on the field in game situations and in that sense Andre Smith has been great.

I think if he falls to us we should take him.
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This kind of stuff hasn't been known to discourage VC in the past. He's much more about what players do on the field in game situations and in that sense Andre Smith has been great.

I think if he falls to us we should take him.
Will he come in ready to start? I mean will he outperform JJ and Heyer to legitimately start?
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He might start at Guard even
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This kind of stuff hasn't been known to discourage VC in the past. He's much more about what players do on the field in game situations and in that sense Andre Smith has been great.

I think if he falls to us we should take him.
Take another angle... if A. Smith is available but so too is Rey M. who should we take?
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He might start at Guard even
SS are you starting to think JJ or Heyer might start at RT this year?
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The Cowgirls have had fatasses on the line for years and they've done alright.
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The Cowgirls have had fatasses on the line for years and they've done alright.
LOL what? Yeah having the choice between small, old and slow lineman and some great big fatties who can at least slow down d-lineman... i'll take the fatties.
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Take another angle... if A. Smith is available but so too is Rey M. who should we take?
Assuming we can't make any trades to get more picks then I'd probably still say Smith. Rey M. is very tempting because he can play all three LB positions (you could probably put him in at the weak-side right away and slide Rocky to MW's old spot).

Still, I think that there's better opportunities to get a LB in the 3rd round than an OL. Someone like Larry English might be around then
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SS are you starting to think JJ or Heyer might start at RT this year?
Right now, Jansen is the starter. Don't know how long that will last but Zorn has said that going into the season, as of right now, JJ will be the starter.
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If Andre Smith is there for us to grab, we would be so stupid not to take him. Samuels will mentor him and turn him into a LEGEND!
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If Andre Smith is there for us to grab, we would be so stupid not to take him. Samuels will mentor him and turn him into a LEGEND!
It's definitely worth noting that Andre Smith and Samuels are both Bama alumni. It would be pretty cool to have possibly the two best tackles in Alabama history on our O-line at the same time, drafted exactly 10 years apart.

Andre Smith's latest blunder here would make me wary of spending a top 5 pick on him, put I'd still take him in a second at 13.
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