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Old 03-11-2009, 07:10 PM   #31
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Re: Andre Smith still leads in the Database at #13

Here is my ideal scenario in the draft involving Smith.

Trade down with Detroit giving up the 13th pick for the 20th and 33rd. If Sanchez is still on the board we may be able to pull this off.

Trade Betts, our 6th rounder and a conditional 3rd or 4th rounder in 2010 with Denver for the 48th pick.

20th - Brian Cushing OLB USC

33rd - Michael Johnson DE GT

48th - Andre Smith OT Ala

80th - Eric Wood C UL

142nd - Cedric Peerman RB UVA

I realize that the chances of this happening are slim to none but can't a man dream a little!
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Old 03-11-2009, 07:45 PM   #32
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Considering our need at RT, LB, and DE, i dont see how anyone could justify drafting a CENTER at 13. Would he be an upgrade over Rabach? Sure? But Center is probably our 6th or 7th greatest need at this point and we would be fools to take a center so high. Not only would it be a huge reach to take him that High, but it wouldnt even be filling a major need.
Because it deemphasizes the RT need significantly. You'd only take a Center at No. 13 if you were absoultely confident that he would start on day one and would not need competition for the next five years, obviously. Equally obviously, if you could get a franchise type tackle that fits all the same critera, you'd pass on the Center for the tackle.

But if you are comparing a flawed Tackle prospect to an ideal Center prospect, you'd obviously go with the Center. It's just a big whos' available game.
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Old 03-11-2009, 07:47 PM   #33
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Well I feel better knowing that Samuals put up only 19 reps. I don't remember who said it but I once heard that until you have to bench press 225 at midfield to win the game the Bench Press will only mean so much especially when you compare it to on field production which Smith has plenty of. And while someone said earlier that we should have learned from Davis and Kelly well while I agree partially the fact remains that I think Smith is different especially since he plays a position thats a lot easier to project at the next level. Personally I'm releshing in how much Smith is falling.
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Old 03-11-2009, 08:47 PM   #34
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I'd take either Smith or Oher at that spot, if either one is available. With OTs being a position of need for most of the teams picking before the redskins (BTW- I believe this is the reason why those teams are picking at the top of the order), that would probably only leave one of them available at 13.

From the games and videos that I have seen with Smith, he appears to be the most physical OT in the draft - even if he didn't display this in his workouts. My only question mark about him (and it's a big question mark) is that he's coming from a run-first system and there's not enough to go by to see if he's also as good in pass protection. But yeah even with this, he's a football player. I'm not paying attention to all the concerns about his pro day showing and his leaving the combine - the redskins would be lucky to snatch him up if he falls this far down.

If Smith or Oher weren't available at 13, then I like Cushing or Maualuga, or maybe even one of the top DEs (not seen enough film to know who though, just liked group of DEs they highlighted on tv the other day).

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Old 03-11-2009, 09:34 PM   #35
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Old 03-11-2009, 09:39 PM   #36
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to me Oher and Smith are not worth our pick at 13. We should trade down and draft A. Mack, get a 2nd and select Maybin or Robert Ayers (DE). In the 3rd round we should take Herman Johnson OG from LSU 6'6 345. This kid Johnson is a freakin truck!!



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Old 03-11-2009, 09:48 PM   #37
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I dont want to take Smith now with the 13th pick, i read about his pro day today, and from what the scouts are saying it was a disaster. he was way overweigth, ran like 5.26 40 time, and was just poorous overall in most of the drills they did. I do not want someone who apparently dose not seem to be committed to football on our team.
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Old 03-11-2009, 10:18 PM   #38
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So does anyone remember when was the last time the Redskins drafted a player that they were projected to draft?
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So does anyone remember when was the last time the Redskins drafted a player that they were projected to draft?
Malcolm Kelly?

LaRon Landry before that.
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Andre Smith had bigger titties than Chesty Morgan and Morganna the kissing bandit combined.
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Old 03-11-2009, 10:42 PM   #41
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IF the Skins are set on a taking tackle in the 1st round, I'd say Eben Britton over Andre Smith at this point for sure. Anyone who was tempted to give him a pass for his scouting combine debacle need look no further than his pro day today. The fact that he pissed all over the two most important job interviews he'll ever have speaks volumes IMO. He's either lazy or was somehow massively overvalued in college. Either way I want no part of him with the 13th pick. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice... well, you get it.

19 reps at 225lbs on the bench press? Really dude? I'm 100lbs lighter and 8 years older and I can do that. "Bombed, one of the worst workouts I've ever seen, he lost millions today," were amongst the comments from pro scouts after his workout today. Ick.
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IF the Skins are set on a taking tackle in the 1st round, I'd say Eben Britton over Andre Smith at this point for sure. Anyone who was tempted to give him a pass for his scouting combine debacle need look no further than his pro day today. The fact that he pissed all over the two most important job interviews he'll ever have speaks volumes IMO. He's either lazy or was somehow massively overvalued in college. Either way I want no part of him with the 13th pick. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice... well, you get it.

19 reps at 225lbs on the bench press? Really dude? I'm 100lbs lighter and 8 years older and I can do that. "Bombed, one of the worst workouts I've ever seen, he lost millions today," were amongst the comments from pro scouts after his workout today. Ick.
I utterly agree.

I'll bet all of this talk is moot because I'll bet the Skins trade down.

But, if not, you can't take such a chance with pick 13 as Andre represents. Use the pick on one of the other tackles who actually takes entering the NFL seriously.
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Old 03-11-2009, 11:09 PM   #43
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I've read that Smith still looked pretty good but would have looked a whole lot better had he been working out, and a guy who does'nt work out at this level isn't going to work out at the next level after handing him 30 million dollars. I thought that was an interesting point.
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to me Oher and Smith are not worth our pick at 13. We should trade down and draft A. Mack, get a 2nd and select Maybin or Robert Ayers (DE). In the 3rd round we should take Herman Johnson OG from LSU 6'6 345. This kid Johnson is a freakin truck!!



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Old 03-12-2009, 09:31 AM   #45
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I just have a bad feeling about this guy.
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