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Old 03-12-2009, 09:31 AM   #16
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What about film of him actually playing in games? What if we judge him on that?
Nope, you're judged on whether you show up to the combine where you don't plan to work out.
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Old 03-12-2009, 10:26 AM   #17
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I understand that a player should be judged on how they play on the field, but come on, the combine IS a pretty big deal in a players process of being drafted into the NFL. We're talking about gaining or losing, MILLIONS of dollars. You can't get motivated for that? What else are you not going to take that seriously? There are a lot of judgements to be made for a young man after gaining millions of dollars. One would hope that his decision making improves in the future, and it may, then again, this could be a sign of trouble.
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Old 03-12-2009, 11:17 AM   #18
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So he's a kid in his early 20's who made a mistake, albeit a big one, and he's "slacked off" in preparation for an opportunity only a fraction of 1% gets! This is what happens when you mix immaturity and talent into million dollar decisions! We have a vetteran officeive line that wont let an immature kid dick around...draft him...if he falls to the thrid! If we trade back and acquire a second rd'r then snatch him with either the either of the first two picks. Timing of drafting him will depend if there's a run on tackles in the first! Then lets pick an inpact LB or DE with the second and third, assuming we are able to trade back!
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Old 03-12-2009, 11:22 AM   #19
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What about film of him actually playing in games? What if we judge him on that?
as a rule i agree. but this was this kids big show, and he was really out of shape. the workout was like a job interview. would you show up for an interview in jeans, with P.B.R on your breath? we are talking about a big time investment here, worth millions. and he didnt see it as being that important
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Old 03-12-2009, 11:57 AM   #20
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He said he looks up to Chris Samuels. Bring him in and let our vets tutor him. Samuels won't let him be lazy. Look at Heyer, not to say he was lazy, but he was a frumpy looking fat dude his rookie year. Last year, he still looked odd, but was alot more in shape.
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Old 03-12-2009, 02:46 PM   #21
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Smith is definitely raising questions about his viability as a top 10, or even, our pick at 13. But let's not get carried away about how fat he looks. If anything, what that says to me is that he's not very aware of how most everybody doesn't want to see his fat jiggling, but it doesn't mean he can't play LT!
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What about film of him actually playing in games? What if we judge him on that?
that's what's up
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Old 03-12-2009, 05:41 PM   #23
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Just be careful with putting too much stock in great workout warriors because that's what you'll get. A player that loves to workout more than he loves to work and play. We don't want a bodybuilder, weightlifter, or track star - so don't look for one.

Most players become busts because they were chosen mainly based on stats, workout measurables, and physical attributes (and on a few great moments). And not mainly on how they played. Most recently for the redskins, Adam Archuletta.

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Old 03-12-2009, 06:35 PM   #24
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Just be careful with putting too much stock in great workout warriors because that's what you'll get. A player that loves to workout more than he loves to work and play. We don't want a bodybuilder, weightlifter, or track star - so don't look for one.

Most players become busts because they were chosen mainly based on stats, workout measurables, and physical attributes (and on a few great moments). And not mainly on how they played. Most recently for the redskins, Adam Archuletta.
The first paragraph could easily be applied to Orakpo.
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Old 03-12-2009, 08:14 PM   #25
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Does anyone have any info about if Jim Zorn is going to any college?
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Does anyone have any info about if Jim Zorn is going to any college?
No. He graduated from college years ago.
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Old 03-12-2009, 10:56 PM   #27
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The first paragraph could easily be applied to Orakpo.
Good insight IMO.
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Old 03-12-2009, 11:29 PM   #28
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Just be careful with putting too much stock in great workout warriors because that's what you'll get. A player that loves to workout more than he loves to work and play. We don't want a bodybuilder, weightlifter, or track star - so don't look for one.

Most players become busts because they were chosen mainly based on stats, workout measurables, and physical attributes (and on a few great moments). And not mainly on how they played. Most recently for the redskins, Adam Archuletta.
Good point, just look at Vernon Davis (former Terp), had crazy combine numbers and the 49ers took him wayyy too high in the draft.
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Smith is definitely raising questions about his viability as a top 10, or even, our pick at 13. But let's not get carried away about how fat he looks. If anything, what that says to me is that he's not very aware of how most everybody doesn't want to see his fat jiggling, but it doesn't mean he can't play LT!
You are right about the fat. But don't forget that he missed his last college game because of disciplinary troubles. So he missed the bowl game, then the combine, then was unprepared for pro day...this is a bad run of events.

If he can't get his act together with millions on the line, what will he do with guaranteed money already in his pocket?

As for Skins attendance at pro days, my understanding is that scouts split up and cover at least most of them. Just because the presence of a big FO name is not reported at a pro day does not mean that two Redskins eyes are not there.
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No. He graduated from college years ago.
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