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Old 04-05-2009, 05:38 PM   #31
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Yeah, I wouldn't mind that strategy either. I honestly don't think it would be a bad idea for us to trade up in the first and draft a guy like Orapko, Monroe or even Curry. Why not go for a sure fire guy since whoever we'd draft in the later rounds anyway would most likely be booted off the practice squad in a few years.

I think some of the FO's reaching with their draft picks is because Vinny was around/maybe influential when the niners reached for TO in the third round. He's trying to strike gold again.
That's a good point...I always forget about TO's beginnings in SF...dude's been around.

Orakpo, i suspect, may be falling but i'm not sure he's worth the pick. I was just reading an analyst on Yahoosports that has Orakpo as only the 4th best DE in this year's draft. Honestly he seems like like a coming "surprise" where everybody expected him to go early but teams decide to pass on him. My best hope for a falling player is Raji...that would be the shit! We take him and then work like hell to trade Colston (maybe package him w/ a pick) to get a 2nd rounder and draft the best OL available. Sort of fantasizing LOL.
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Old 04-05-2009, 05:47 PM   #32
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The other angle is if NE really wants to trade up for someone, and we have an inkling of who the player might be...we should probably just draft that guy for ourselves. NE has superb talent evaluators and we would be wise to grab someone they think worthy of trading up for.

Good observation Goat. WE can't part with our high #1 picks anymore. So few of our 2-7 round draft picks have really amounted to much over the past decade, that to give them away(#1 picks) for more lower round draft picks is simply moronic. Why trade away a probable starter for a bunch of chaffe!!!!!!
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Old 04-05-2009, 06:56 PM   #33
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Good observation Goat. WE can't part with our high #1 picks anymore. So few of our 2-7 round draft picks have really amounted to much over the past decade, that to give them away(#1 picks) for more lower round draft picks is simply moronic. Why trade away a probable starter for a bunch of chaffe!!!!!!
Word...I hope last year's scenario was the exception rather than the rule.
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Old 04-05-2009, 08:01 PM   #34
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The other angle is if NE really wants to trade up for someone, and we have an inkling of who the player might be...we should probably just draft that guy for ourselves. NE has superb talent evaluators and we would be wise to grab someone they think worthy of trading up for.
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Old 04-05-2009, 08:23 PM   #35
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I heard that they are really high on darius butler the corner from UConn..why don't I give you all another scenario for this thread..a draft trade with Miami , maybe a way to get back our second rounder from a year ago
Yeah Butler and I think even Jenkins, but I don't know how much now with Springs and Bodden there
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I think NE is doing a good job of throwing teams off of who they really want.
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Old 04-06-2009, 12:24 AM   #37
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I really don't want to give New England a chance to get a huge talent at pick 13. Just imagine Rey Maleuga and Mayo side by side for the next 10 years. That would be insane.
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A maualuga and mayo duo would be tough.
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I don't like it. This trade still leaves us with 2 picks in the top 3 rounds. If I trade down i want to add a 2nd or 3rd round pick depending on how far down we go.
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I don't like it. This trade still leaves us with 2 picks in the top 3 rounds. If I trade down i want to add a 2nd or 3rd round pick depending on how far down we go.
Its better to have 2 picks in the first day, than to have a pick in the 1st and third like we have now.
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Old 04-06-2009, 10:01 PM   #42
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Its better to have 2 picks in the first day, than to have a pick in the 1st and third like we have now.
I don't agree. I think the #13 pick should be close to a slam dunk in terms of getting a player that can start imediately. If I am giving that up then I want to add a pick not just improve my 3rd rounder.

The trade they made last year was ideal because they added a pick. If the skins drop 10 places to around 23 they should be able to net a 2nd round pick and still keep their 3rd rounder.
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Old 04-07-2009, 09:35 AM   #43
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..... Past the second or third round all you have left is practice squad fodder.[/QUOTE]

Without going through and reading all the posts to see if anyone has responded to this post of your's, let me remind you of just last years draft...

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Horton was drafted by the Washington Redskins in the seventh round (249th overall) of the 2008 NFL Draft. He officially signed a three-year, $1.191 million contract with the team on June 12, 2008. The contract included a $36,000 signing bonus.

Making his first NFL start for the Redskins in Week 2 against the Saints, Horton recovered a fumble and recorded two interceptions helping lead the team to a comeback victory. He was named NFC Defensive Player of the Week for his efforts against the Saints. In the week 4 game against the Dallas Cowboys, he recorded his third interception of the season. On October 2, he was named NFL Defensive Rookie of the Month. For week 4 he was named Diet Pepsi NFL Rookie of the Week. As a rookie, he finished third among rookies in interceptions behind the Tampa Bay Buccaneers Aqib Talib and Arizona Cardinals Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie.

Following the 2008 season, he was awarded $342,197 in additional pay from the NFL's performance-based pay system, which gives financial compensation based on a comparison of playing time to salary; this made him the third biggest beneficiary in 2008.[2]
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Old 04-07-2009, 09:58 AM   #44
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I don't agree. I think the #13 pick should be close to a slam dunk in terms of getting a player that can start imediately. If I am giving that up then I want to add a pick not just improve my 3rd rounder.

The trade they made last year was ideal because they added a pick. If the skins drop 10 places to around 23 they should be able to net a 2nd round pick and still keep their 3rd rounder.
I hear you, but I created this thread based off of the NFL draft pick value chart.

According the numerical value of the picks, its makes its extremely difficult to pull off this trade still keep our 3rd rounder.

This is pick is based on positioning, and not on stocked picks. If it was based off stocking picks, then I would have come up with a scenario where we traded our first for multiple 3rd's or something like that.

Right now, we have to get the most bang for our buck, and we can't do that with what we have. So, unless anyone has a better idea for a trade, then comments need to be more solution-oriented.

I know the warpath is full of smart individuals. This is why I joined here, but its stifling to think that only a handful of you have actually READ the instructions and commented appropriately. It shouldn't be this difficult. Your comments are appreciated, but I am more interested in who you would take off of this proposal, or what kind of proposal would be better based off of the NFL draft pick value chart. I really am not interested in just your opinions on the proposal. If I was, I would have posted my proposal in a different thread (because I keep hearing from Mods about how people create too many of the same thread).

There are other threads for what you would do with the 13th pick, but this thread is OBVIOUSLY different. I will ask the Warpath with all humility and reverence, if you can not read and follow the directions for answering on this thread, then please refrain from commenting on this thread!

If this can not be done, the mods should lock this thread, lest it turn into copy cat thread about what we should do at 13.
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Old 04-07-2009, 10:42 AM   #45
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According the numerical value of the picks, its makes its extremely difficult to pull off this trade still keep our 3rd rounder. ...

I know the warpath is full of smart individuals. This is why I joined here, but its stifling to think that only a handful of you have actually READ the instructions and commented appropriately. It shouldn't be this difficult. Your comments are appreciated, but I am more interested in who you would take off of this proposal, or what kind of proposal would be better based off of the NFL draft pick value chart. I really am not interested in just your opinions on the proposal. If I was, I would have posted my proposal in a different thread (because I keep hearing from Mods about how people create too many of the same thread).

There are other threads for what you would do with the 13th pick, but this thread is OBVIOUSLY different. I will ask the Warpath with all humility and reverence, if you can not read and follow the directions for answering on this thread, then please refrain from commenting on this thread!

If this can not be done, the mods should lock this thread, lest it turn into copy cat thread about what we should do at 13.
It actually is not difficult to go by the chart and find possibilities for trading out of #13, picking up a 2nd or high 3rd and still retaining pick #80, even if you use New England as a trade partner (as I have pointed out).

* Philadelphia (picks 21 and 53 - 1170; pick 13 - 1150)
* Minnesota (picks 22 and 54 - 1140; pick 13 - 1150)
* New England (picks 23 and 47 - 1190; pick 13 and 5th - approx. 1185.5) or (picks 23, 58, and 4th - approx. 1134; pick 13 - 1150)
* Atlanta (picks 24, 55, and 4th - approx. 1142; pick 13 - 1150)
* Miami (picks 26 and 44 - 1160; pick 13 - 1150)
* Detroit (picks 20, 65, and 5th; pick 13)

I know this will seem a bit harsh, but in all honesty it seems to me that you are only looking for validation with this thread. If someone says, "I love your idea!" then they clearly "read the instructions" and understand clearly the value of your contribution. If someone does not agree with you or suggests the possibility is unlikely then they are not worthy of commenting on your thread and should find a different thread to comment on. Clearly you are very invested in this trade possibility, but I think you are being a bit closed minded here.
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