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Old 04-26-2009, 06:39 PM   #631
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After Caldwell got taken before we picked in the third, it really didn't make much sense to take a flyer on a lineman. If we had identified a hole, the proper move would have been to aggressively try to move up from the third round for a guy like William Beatty at the back end of round two.

Once the opportunity passed, it would have been bad to hopelessly chase an offensive linemen. We could have taken Oher or Mack, but since we didn't, the proper move is to re-focus on the development of the young talent we already have on our line (plus a priority UDFA).
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Old 04-26-2009, 06:42 PM   #632
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After Caldwell got taken before we picked in the third, it really didn't make much sense to take a flyer on a lineman. If we had identified a hole, the proper move would have been to aggressively try to move up from the third round for a guy like William Beatty at the back end of round two.

Once the opportunity passed, it would have been bad to hopelessly chase an offensive linemen. We could have taken Oher or Mack, but since we didn't, the proper move is to re-focus on the development of the young talent we already have on our line (plus a priority UDFA).
That's not a bad way of looking at it.

Perhaps as well we have improved the offense by providing it with shorter fields to work with, provided by a stouter defense.
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Old 04-26-2009, 06:43 PM   #633
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After Caldwell got taken before we picked in the third, it really didn't make much sense to take a flyer on a lineman. If we had identified a hole, the proper move would have been to aggressively try to move up from the third round for a guy like William Beatty at the back end of round two.

Once the opportunity passed, it would have been bad to hopelessly chase an offensive linemen. We could have taken Oher or Mack, but since we didn't, the proper move is to re-focus on the development of the young talent we already have on our line (plus a priority UDFA).
You're making too much sense.

It's more fun to just rip on the FO.
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Old 04-26-2009, 06:50 PM   #634
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If we just get Mike Williams to beef up a little, he can play the entire OL by himself.
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Old 04-26-2009, 06:52 PM   #635
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Harris may be one of those guys who gets better just by leaving Oakland. Plus we would have him primarily at RT, which is less demanding than the LT that he played in Oakland.

As for Williams, see his updated thread. The dude currently weighs 410 pounds!
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Old 04-26-2009, 06:53 PM   #636
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I guess it's a sign they are comfortable with the current group.
Just like every other year.
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Old 04-26-2009, 06:54 PM   #637
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Joe Bugel is shaking his head and I am too.

Hey Trample,

Honestly, I think the draft filled 2 of the 3 need areas. I know we still gotta get the OL right, but remember for the first half of the year they held their own. we get better depth from FA, including Dockery, and we should be ok. I think everyone is counting on the offense to come together somewhat this year. I am sure Buges is getting his input heard.
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2 more till our draft is finished. Quick thoughts on what position we take?
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I am calling it now PICK 243 - HOF BOOKEND RT - 12 YEAR STARTER



haha, yeah there was really no need past the 3rd round for people to get worked up about it
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Old 04-26-2009, 06:56 PM   #640
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2 more till our draft is finished. Quick thoughts on what position we take?
something random, not like we're drafting for need

we're next
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Do you think we'll draft Rashad Jennings next?
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WR Marko Mitchell
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National Football League: NFL Draft 2009 - Marko Mitchell

Overview
The Mesa (Ariz.) Community College transfer has developed into one of the country's most feared big-play threats. He's had similar production in his first two years, leading the Wolfpack in receptions (53 in 2007, 61 in 2008), receiving yards (1,129, 1,141) and receiving touchdowns (eight, ten). He ranked second in the nation averaging 21.3 yards per catch as a junior, but finally made first team All-WAC this season. Those outstanding numbers are boosted by Nevada's unique "pistol" offense, but his rare combination of height and straight-line speed makes him a difficult matchup for any cornerback. Had an arm span of 34 1/2 inches and a hand span of 10 1/4 inches at the combine.

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Earned first-team all-conference and all-district honors at Mesa (Ariz.) Community College...Had 34 catches for 719 yards and eight touchdowns...Averaged 21.1 yards per catch.

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Positives: Rare height and arm length for the position. Good straight-line speed to challenge deep. Can track the ball over either shoulder and shows good body control and field awareness to keep his feet in bounds. Soft hands to pluck the ball out of the air and can make the reception outside of his frame. Alert receiver who will work his way back when the quarterback is under pressure. Good leaping ability. Shows a bit of vision and elusiveness as a runner after the catch and has the long strides to pull away from smaller defenders. Uses his size and length to effectively run block against small corners.

Negatives: Much of his production is due to this offense. Good, not great, straight-line speed. Will be caught from behind by NFL corners. Long-strider who has to build up to it. Lacks the short burst quickness to consistently gain separation against elite cover corners. Sinewy frame that may not withstand NFL punishment. Ball security may be an issue considering his lack of upper body strength. Isn't the dominant red-zone target his size indicates, due to marginal toughness and physicality in going up for the ball in traffic. Allows too many passes to get into his pads, resulting in some drops.
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That was the quickest pick possible!!!!
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I guess it's a sign they are comfortable with the current group.
The current group (Dockery aside), was pretty miserable down the stretch. I know we had injuries, and those guys will be healthy, but they're still 30+ coming off surgeries. Don't get me wrong, I hope they're correct. But the organization openly said RT is a need.

As far as Tripp's assessment of "hopelessly chasing" an O-lineman... well, taking the best tackle available in the 3rd or 5th wouldn't be "hopelessly chasing." Unless we didn't have anyone graded within 20 or 30 slots of where our pick(s) where slotted, I think we goofed.

And taking that OLB from Nebraska was flat stupid IMO. The kid has only played LB in 9 games EVER! He came to school as a RB and played 3 years at that position until injuries forced a position change. Then he got suspended for ticket scalping. Plus he plays weakside. Stupid.

And now a WR??
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