Reasons for drafting Sanchez

12thMan · 01-17-2010, 09:46 PM

Clearly the Jets are winning in spite of Sanchez and not because of him. I will say though, he's an emotional leader and you can tell the players respect him a ton. I think Rex is doing a good job of keeping him in his lane until the game slows down for him more.

53Fan · 01-17-2010, 09:51 PM

Rex Ryan has done a great job. The credit should go to him and whoever acquired these o-linemen. That's how you build a team. Good job.

dgack · 01-17-2010, 10:09 PM

This is basically what I was saying about JC earlier in the season. Campbell would be a FINE QB on a team with a stout, opportunistic defense, solid O-Line and running game.

These Jets are basically following the blueprint of the '00 Ravens: win with defense, and get just enough out of your offense to get by. It's probably not surprising given Ryan's history.

Both offenses were mediocre to poor ('09 Jets ranked 17th in points and 24th in yards, while the '00 Ravens were 14th and 16th, respectively), but both had spectacular defenses ('00 Ravens 1st in points allowed and 2nd in yards allowed, while the '09 Jets are 1st in both categories)

The '09 Jets run the ball better than the '00 Ravens did, to the tune of about 40 yards a game, but they pass for about 30 yards per game fewer. The '09 Jets have a team passer rating 10 points lower than the '00 Ravens, which seems hard to believe, considering the Ravens went with the dynamite trio of Banks, Redman, and Dilfer that year.

So Sanchez is serviceale... with the Jets this year. Would he have been equally serviceable behind our Swiss cheese line? I kinda doubt it.

The Goat · 01-17-2010, 10:37 PM

Sanchez would be in critical condition (still) behind the line Snyder/Ceratto put together.

CultBrennan59 · 01-17-2010, 10:53 PM

Its pretty simple; If you give your QB a solid OL, for the most part, he will succeed
If you give your QB a poor OL, he will not succeed (unless he's Peyton Manning)

budw38 · 01-18-2010, 06:42 AM

Great points on Sanchez and the Jets team . I would love to find two pro-bowl OL in this draft , like the jets did w/ Ferguson/Mangold . I would however not pass up a CB like Revis late rd 1 or 2nd < if we trade down > . We could pick up 1 or 2 OL in F/A , as the F/A OL looks strong at this point . A rb and a bad ass LB would be nice also .

Chico23231 · 01-18-2010, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

Clearly the Jets are winning in spite of Sanchez and not because of him. I will say though, he's an emotional leader and you can tell the players respect him a ton. I think Rex is doing a good job of keeping him in his lane until the game slows down for him more.

Yeah I agree with this. I did not want us to draft him, but I will give him some props. Rookie QB, 2 road playoffs wins under his belt...Im impressed...I mean that is not easy and he handled the pressure of expectations of the NY media as well. The guy is not playing at a high level, but he has been set up to succeed and has gained the type of experience you want a young QB to go through.

skinsfan69 · 01-18-2010, 09:32 AM

I don't get all the hype. He throws the ball 15 times a game and most of the passes are 5 yards. He makes a play here and there but pretty much any NFL QB could play in the Jets offense. Yeah he's a rah rah guy, big deal. I'm not sold on the guy yet. Clearly the Jets defense and running game are winning games, not Sanchez. I'm glad we didn't take him.

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 01-18-2010, 01:05 PM

Rex Ryan has been a great rookie head coach. You really couldn't ask for more out of the guy. He is great for the NY media and has his team ready to play on Sundays. Great Job by everyone on the Jets. That was a team win yesterday.

Game balls to Greene, The Oline, and The defense.

Monkeydad · 01-18-2010, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Just what does everyone think of Sanchez now?

Best offensive line in the NFL, best running game, #1-ranked defense...these things can make ANY bad QB look great. Look at his pathetic stats. 20 INTs was second only to Jay Cutler. He had only 12 TD passes. His meager 162 yds/gm was near the bottom from starting QBs, ranked just behind the RAMS' Marc Bulger and just ahead of the benched 49ers QB Shaun Hill. Even the Tampa Bay QBs (Leftwich/Johnson) were way ahead of him in that category. How do the Jets win with such a bad QB? Simple, they don't rely on him and run as much as possible to avoid putting him in situations to fail.

The Jets have FOUR 1st-round draft picks on their offensive line. It shows.

If he had been our QB, he would have far out-mistaked Cutler with probably 35 INTs, IF and this is a BIG IF...he had survived to play all season with our offensive line, or lack thereof. We would have been a 1- or 2-win team...maybe, if we had Sanchez all year (and Collins seeing action when Mark is in the hospital).

Son Of Man · 01-18-2010, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I don't get all the hype. He throws the ball 15 times a game and most of the passes are 5 yards. He makes a play here and there but pretty much any NFL QB could play in the Jets offense. Yeah he's a rah rah guy, big deal. I'm not sold on the guy yet. Clearly the Jets defense and running game are winning games, not Sanchez. I'm glad we didn't take him.

Steelers did the same thing with Ben Rothlisberger his forst year...now look at him 2 championships later!!!

Chevy13 · 01-18-2010, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Its pretty simple; If you give your QB a solid OL, for the most part, he will succeed
If you give your QB a poor OL, he will not succeed (unless he's Peyton Manning)

or Aaron Rodgers

BigHairedAristocrat · 01-18-2010, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Sanchez isn't very good, but he's improved over the guy he was earlier in the season, and most importantly, he's in the right place at the right time.

he's better than most rookie QBs and far superior to ANY of the QBs available in this year's draft. That said, i'm very happy with Orakpo.

Dirtbag59 · 01-18-2010, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Son Of Man

Steelers did the same thing with Ben Rothlisberger his forst year...now look at him 2 championships later!!!

Difference is that Roethlisberger was good right out of the gate. 15-1 record along with a 98.1 QB rating. Not saying that Sanchez will be a bust, but we'll see how well he does as he's given more responsibility next year.

MonkFan4Life · 01-18-2010, 04:14 PM

Kalisto I couldn't have said it ANY better.

01-17-2010, 09:46 PM	#151
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,363	Re: Reasons for drafting Sanchez Clearly the Jets are winning in spite of Sanchez and not because of him. I will say though, he's an emotional leader and you can tell the players respect him a ton. I think Rex is doing a good job of keeping him in his lane until the game slows down for him more.

01-17-2010, 09:51 PM	#152
53Fan Pro Bowl Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kill Devil Hills, N.C. Posts: 7,354	Re: Reasons for drafting Sanchez Rex Ryan has done a great job. The credit should go to him and whoever acquired these o-linemen. That's how you build a team. Good job. __________________ "Cautiously And Optimistically... Looking Forward To Change"

01-17-2010, 10:09 PM	#153
dgack The Starter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The ATX (formerly Balmer) Posts: 1,125	Re: Reasons for drafting Sanchez This is basically what I was saying about JC earlier in the season. Campbell would be a FINE QB on a team with a stout, opportunistic defense, solid O-Line and running game. These Jets are basically following the blueprint of the '00 Ravens: win with defense, and get just enough out of your offense to get by. It's probably not surprising given Ryan's history. Both offenses were mediocre to poor ('09 Jets ranked 17th in points and 24th in yards, while the '00 Ravens were 14th and 16th, respectively), but both had spectacular defenses ('00 Ravens 1st in points allowed and 2nd in yards allowed, while the '09 Jets are 1st in both categories) The '09 Jets run the ball better than the '00 Ravens did, to the tune of about 40 yards a game, but they pass for about 30 yards per game fewer. The '09 Jets have a team passer rating 10 points lower than the '00 Ravens, which seems hard to believe, considering the Ravens went with the dynamite trio of Banks, Redman, and Dilfer that year. So Sanchez is serviceale... with the Jets this year. Would he have been equally serviceable behind our Swiss cheese line? I kinda doubt it. __________________ "To bring a Sherm Lewis in to a Jim Zorn and whoever his offensive coordinator is, it's like bringing in another man to help teach you how to make better love to your wife or something." -- Tre Johnson

01-17-2010, 10:37 PM	#154
The Goat Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,020	Re: Reasons for drafting Sanchez Sanchez would be in critical condition (still) behind the line Snyder/Ceratto put together. __________________ Sometimes you eat the bear, and sometimes he eats you.

01-17-2010, 10:53 PM	#155
CultBrennan59 Pro Bowl Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 5,568	Re: Reasons for drafting Sanchez Its pretty simple; If you give your QB a solid OL, for the most part, he will succeed If you give your QB a poor OL, he will not succeed (unless he's Peyton Manning) __________________ When in doubt, go with the SEC

01-18-2010, 06:42 AM	#156
budw38 The Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern,Va. Posts: 2,122	Re: Reasons for drafting Sanchez Great points on Sanchez and the Jets team . I would love to find two pro-bowl OL in this draft , like the jets did w/ Ferguson/Mangold . I would however not pass up a CB like Revis late rd 1 or 2nd < if we trade down > . We could pick up 1 or 2 OL in F/A , as the F/A OL looks strong at this point . A rb and a bad ass LB would be nice also .

01-18-2010, 09:32 AM	#158
skinsfan69 Franchise Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA. Posts: 8,103	Re: Reasons for drafting Sanchez I don't get all the hype. He throws the ball 15 times a game and most of the passes are 5 yards. He makes a play here and there but pretty much any NFL QB could play in the Jets offense. Yeah he's a rah rah guy, big deal. I'm not sold on the guy yet. Clearly the Jets defense and running game are winning games, not Sanchez. I'm glad we didn't take him.

01-18-2010, 01:05 PM	#159
artmonkforhallofamein07 HST - "Hey Rube" Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Charleston , SC Posts: 3,906	Re: Reasons for drafting Sanchez Rex Ryan has been a great rookie head coach. You really couldn't ask for more out of the guy. He is great for the NY media and has his team ready to play on Sundays. Great Job by everyone on the Jets. That was a team win yesterday. Game balls to Greene, The Oline, and The defense. __________________ Robert Griffin III welcome to the Washington Redskins! Year 1 - NFC EAST Champions at 10-6 Year 2 - Comeback player of the year??? 12-4??? Divisional round playoff game at home??? Superbowl??? 8-8 or worse??? We just have to wait impatiently to find out. http://site.fandangoracinginc.com/

01-18-2010, 04:14 PM	#165
MonkFan4Life The Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 35 Posts: 1,830	Re: Reasons for drafting Sanchez Kalisto I couldn't have said it ANY better. __________________ Catch me on YouTube ! http://www.youtube.com/user/DowntimeRB?feature=mhw5 The "punishment" by the league : "It's like getting a ticket for going too fast on a road a week ago and they changed the speed limit today"

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