Reasons for drafting Sanchez

tryfuhl · 04-25-2009, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

LOL! And then you add five paragraphs. Classic

As soon as I read the line I busted out laughing. At least he's willing to adapt and doesn't come off as a moron.

djnemo65 · 04-25-2009, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

I think the conclusion has come and gone. Prior to last yr people were complaining about his slow throwing motion, that he can't read defenses, and does not throw the ball prior to the WR making his cut. He's had what 5 yrs and started 4. Didn't Eli come out the same yr? I understand Eli has had the same offense for several yrs running but JC should be showing some improvement in his ability to read defenses. Improvement in the speed at which he releases the ball. Improvement in his abiblity to get the ball out prior to the WR making his cut so the ball will be where it needs to be when the WR gets there with out having to reach behind to get it or stop. I don't care what system he was in each one he needed to be able to go through all his reads and he's still slow at doing that. 5 yrs. How much longer do you want? 1 more yr? Maybe resign him and see what he has after 3 yrs in the same system?

The things I have mentioned we should have seen improvement from yr to yr. 5yrs later and he still has the same issues. Oh wait he did cut down on his interceptions. He's basically a decent QB not a great QB. or at the least a great backup.

What is that conclusion? That Campbell's good when the rest of the team is good but not good enough to overcome breakdowns and injuries on the offensive line and receiving corpse? That he's effective when given time to throw but not good enough to win games by himself? That sounds an awful lot like the previous superbowl winning quarterbacks I mentioned.

If you are suggesting that Campbell has already crossed the bust line you are dreaming. If you are suggesting that it's worth mortgaging the future of the team for the chance to acquire a QB who might possibly not have Campbell's flaws (but who of course might have his own) you are, imo, as misguided as our owner.

Again, it's not enough just to criticize Campbell or compare him to other guys. You have to argue how it makes sense to give up what it will take to replace him, and nobody has been able to do that effectively yet.

skins89moss · 04-25-2009, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

I rather wait a year and get a McCoy or Bradford still. I have said in the other threads that the main reason this guy shouldn't be so hyped up is that USC is really the only real football team left in the Pac-10 anymore. I mean they have been stacked for what, close to a decade now with talent. They probably could have beat some lower tier NFL teams they have been so stacked with talent and speed as of late. Remember the debate over whether JC was really all that great at Auburn or did he flourish since he had 2 first round pick HBs lining up behind him? The same type of question needs to be asked about Sanchez. Hard to look average or medicore if you have that much talent around you!!!! You probably could say the same about McCouy or Bradford to be fair about it, but damn they play in the Big 12, which is a lot more physical than the Pac-10.

I live just outside of Los Angeles area ( Corona Ca) so I see USC games all season. No I'm not a fan of USC either, but they get the best talent of any school on the westcoast. USC can hold their own to any school in the Nation. Remember the Penn St. game they destroyed them. I work less than 3miles from Mission Viejo High School where Sanchez was preparing for the combine and throwing for NFL scouts. With that said i do like his toughness and leadership qualities but do we needed a QB. JC I believe can get the job done this season and he has something to prove now. He will disprove all the doubters that he can play QB in the NFL.

Beemnseven · 04-25-2009, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by djnemo65

What is that conclusion? That Campbell's good when the rest of the team is good but not good enough to overcome breakdowns and injuries on the offensive line and receiving corpse? That he's effective when given time to throw but not good enough to win games by himself? That sounds an awful lot like the previous superbowl winning quarterbacks I mentioned.

If you are suggesting that Campbell has already crossed the bust line you are dreaming. If you are suggesting that it's worth mortgaging the future of the team for the chance to acquire a QB who might possibly not have Campbell's flaws (but who of course might have his own) you are, imo, as misguided as our owner.

Again, it's not enough just to criticize Campbell or compare him to other guys. You have to argue how it makes sense to give up what it will take to replace him, and nobody has been able to do that effectively yet.

A Freudian Slip? Sometimes our receivers do play like corpses.

For the record, I don't believe it's time to give up on Campbell -- and it could very well be that he hasn't had enough time to reach his full potential. And no, he doesn't have to be a Hall of Famer to be effective for us.

In my mind, I'm just trying to find acceptance for what I really don't want to have happen.

CRedskinsRule · 04-25-2009, 07:59 AM

to answer the thread question:

none.

even if he were the perfect qb, which he is not, you basically would have to give away to much to get him, and then you screw the locker room up. As it is now, most players will rally for Campbell. Maybe the two who need not be named will step up their play for his sake. but bring a Sanchez in, and trade the world for him, and the locker room just goes to pot. I do have one scenario where I would take though. He falls to us, we trade down, to 16, pick up a third and still take him. Otherwise, no there is no reason to take Sanchez this year.

Beemnseven · 04-25-2009, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

to answer the thread question:

none.

even if he were the perfect qb, which he is not, you basically would have to give away to much to get him, and then you screw the locker room up. As it is now, most players will rally for Campbell. Maybe the two who need not be named will step up their play for his sake. but bring a Sanchez in, and trade the world for him, and the locker room just goes to pot. I do have one scenario where I would take though. He falls to us, we trade down, to 16, pick up a third and still take him. Otherwise, no there is no reason to take Sanchez this year.

So the locker room revolts because they like Campbell so much?

I think this gets overblown. These guys are professionals and they know it's a business. They aren't going to sabotage themselves and their careers because they have some sort of irrational devotion to one player.

CRedskinsRule · 04-25-2009, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Beemnseven

So the locker room revolts because they like Campbell so much?

I think this gets overblown. These guys are professionals and they know it's a business. They aren't going to sabotage themselves and their careers because they have some sort of irrational devotion to one player.

I don't know that they revolt, but if they feel Campbell wasn't treated right (and if this really happens - he wasn't), and Sanchez comes in and mucks it up (as he very probably would), then the locker room could implode. Tempers became short at the end of the season, and if we do nothing but get Sanchez, and Portis finds the line breaking down again, yes it could end up going bad.
Mainly, because we did not NEED to do this this year.

edit: really I just vented because of the irrationality of going after him this year over obvious needs.

redskinjim · 04-25-2009, 09:43 AM

go get him cambell is not going to cut it

Lotus · 04-25-2009, 11:16 AM

Poor JC. He has so many impatient haters.

T.O.Killa · 01-17-2010, 07:30 PM

Just what does everyone think of Sanchez now?

Lotus · 01-17-2010, 07:51 PM

^ Although he has a bright future, I'm still glad that we didn't get him. We would have given up too much in terms of players/picks to move up and we would not have gotten Orakpo.

GTripp0012 · 01-17-2010, 08:01 PM

Sanchez isn't very good, but he's improved over the guy he was earlier in the season, and most importantly, he's in the right place at the right time.

Ruhskins · 01-17-2010, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Just what does everyone think of Sanchez now?

He's on a team with a pro bowl offensive line, a great running game, very good wideouts, and has a true top 5 defense. Of course he's going to be successful. In here he would have turn into the next David Carr. So let's drop this stupid argument.

Bushead · 01-17-2010, 08:03 PM

That offensive line makes the difference. Why do people think the QB is the only problem in Washington?

KLHJ2 · 01-17-2010, 08:03 PM

I concur with Ruhskins.

04-25-2009, 07:59 AM	#125
CRedskinsRule MVP Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Pasadena, Md Age: 45 Posts: 10,906	Re: Reasons for drafting Sanchez to answer the thread question: none. even if he were the perfect qb, which he is not, you basically would have to give away to much to get him, and then you screw the locker room up. As it is now, most players will rally for Campbell. Maybe the two who need not be named will step up their play for his sake. but bring a Sanchez in, and trade the world for him, and the locker room just goes to pot. I do have one scenario where I would take though. He falls to us, we trade down, to 16, pick up a third and still take him. Otherwise, no there is no reason to take Sanchez this year.

04-25-2009, 09:43 AM	#128
redskinjim Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: fresno ca Posts: 371	Re: Reasons for drafting Sanchez go get him cambell is not going to cut it

04-25-2009, 11:16 AM	#129
Lotus Mann Up HOF! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 8,906	Re: Reasons for drafting Sanchez Poor JC. He has so many impatient haters. __________________ Rooting for the Dallas Cowboys should be recognized as a treatable mental disorder.

01-17-2010, 07:30 PM	#130
T.O.Killa The Starter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Berlin, MD Posts: 1,937	Re: Reasons for drafting Sanchez Just what does everyone think of Sanchez now?

01-17-2010, 07:51 PM	#131
Lotus Mann Up HOF! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 8,906	Re: Reasons for drafting Sanchez ^ Although he has a bright future, I'm still glad that we didn't get him. We would have given up too much in terms of players/picks to move up and we would not have gotten Orakpo. __________________ Rooting for the Dallas Cowboys should be recognized as a treatable mental disorder.

01-17-2010, 08:01 PM	#132
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Age: 25 Posts: 15,143	Re: Reasons for drafting Sanchez Sanchez isn't very good, but he's improved over the guy he was earlier in the season, and most importantly, he's in the right place at the right time. __________________ Shanahan: “The bad thing is he's [Sav Rocca] probably our best offensive weapon and that’s not good.”

01-17-2010, 08:03 PM	#134
Bushead Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 695	Re: Reasons for drafting Sanchez That offensive line makes the difference. Why do people think the QB is the only problem in Washington?

01-17-2010, 08:03 PM	#135
KLHJ2 Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: DC Metro Area Age: 34 Posts: 5,823	Re: Reasons for drafting Sanchez I concur with Ruhskins. __________________ Read "The Book", life will gain meaning.

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