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Old 04-25-2009, 12:07 AM   #16
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Re: Its now offical....Lions lock up Stafford

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This is BAD news for the Skins - - if you believe that Danny Boy is "smitten" with Sanchez. That means that ANY team with a draft pick between 2 and 12 can threaten the Skins with taking "their boy" and there is no other quality QB out there in the draft for them to take if the Skins decide to call the bluff.

This might make Danny panic and trade all the way up to #2 or #3. Cost for that could be Campbell plus the #13 pick plus a lower round pick.

If the FO makes a trade like that it will probably go down in history as comparable to the signing - - and the forced starting - - of Jeff George.

BTW, if the Skins trade up for Sanchez and deal Campbell away in the same trade of some subsequent trade and you were Sanchez' agent, how much would you hold out for in negotiating with Danny Boy? $50M guaranteed? Why not? A trade up would have shown his hand and it's not as if he has a Pro Bowl QB on the roster to start in place of Sanchez. I would LOVE to be the agent in that circumstance...
I still do not believe that. I firmly think that the Sanchez thing is all smoke. I may be the only one in the world but I firmly believe that we have been fishing for trade-downs or for other talent to fall to us, nothing more.
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Re: Its now offical....Lions lock up Stafford

just a side note, we gave 41M guaranteed to AH, Stafford gets 41M guaranteed from the Lions.

Isn't that proof positive there needs to be a good working salary cap?
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I still do not believe that. I firmly think that the Sanchez thing is all smoke. I may be the only one in the world but I firmly believe that we have been fishing for trade-downs or for other talent to fall to us, nothing more.
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Old 04-25-2009, 12:38 AM   #19
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just a side note, we gave 41M guaranteed to AH, Stafford gets 41M guaranteed from the Lions.

Isn't that proof positive there needs to be a good working salary cap?
I've been trying to get my boss to pay me $41 mil but for some reason he won't budge. Loser.
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I think that the NFL commissioner Goodell needs to stop worrying about extending the season and playing a Super Bowl over seas and start worrying about the rookie payroll. I believe that the way it is set up now hurts teams. Everyone knows that the draft is more or less a gamble. Look at how many players come to the NFL from the college level that were total studs in college only to suck in the NFL. I am just saying that the deal that the Lions gave is historic. Stafford is getting $41.7 million guaranteed. That is $700,000 more than what the Redskins gave to a proven DT. What has Stafford done to prove that he is worth that much? Let him play in the NFL and then pay him what he deserves. I am just wondering where does it stop with these unproven rookies?!?!
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I've been trying to get my boss to pay me $41 mil but for some reason he won't budge. Loser.
Obviously, he doesn't understand return on investment concepts!
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You're not alone Lotus.
That at least makes three of us.

It's good to have the specifics of the contract but any other player the Lions selected would have been a surprise. I like Stafford and think he'll do pretty well throwing to Calvin Johnson.
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for redkin8588, i think the comisssioner would love nothing more then a rookie salary cap. there is one small problem. the N.F.L.P.A. they are very firm in their stance to not cutting rookie salaries. their thinking is if a rookie like Stafford is worth 41 million in guarateed money, whats someone like Matt Cassel worth? the rookie money drives the whole leagues salaries upward
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for redkin8588, i think the comisssioner would love nothing more then a rookie salary cap. there is one small problem. the N.F.L.P.A. they are very firm in their stance to not cutting rookie salaries. their thinking is if a rookie like Stafford is worth 41 million in guarateed money, whats someone like Matt Cassel worth? the rookie money drives the whole leagues salaries upward
Ok but what makes him worth $41 million? The NFLPA has their heads up their ass. I don't care how good someone is in college, it does not always transfer to the NFL. Look at all of the busts that come out of college. I mean look at the numbers each year at minimum the league drafts 224 players. Go back and look at how many of the 224 players are still in the league. I believe that this is one reason why the owners do not want to see a CBA contract agreed upon. I wouldn't if I was an owner...
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for redkin8588, i think the comisssioner would love nothing more then a rookie salary cap. there is one small problem. the N.F.L.P.A. they are very firm in their stance to not cutting rookie salaries. their thinking is if a rookie like Stafford is worth 41 million in guarateed money, whats someone like Matt Cassel worth? the rookie money drives the whole leagues salaries upward
Behind the scenes the NFLPA is not united in this stance. There are some vets who get peeved that a rookie who has never played a down makes more than they do.

It will be interesting to see how this all plays out in the upcoming CBA negotiations.
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