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Old 04-25-2009, 11:05 AM   #16
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I love Kiper...he's the best and the original. I think Mayock is really good though. McShay...no thanks.

Speaking of McShay...does anyone else find it odd that he seems to be on ESPN more then Mel leading up to the draft? Kiper seems to be so under utilized by ESPN. Not sure if thats his doing or ESPN's doing. Smoot?
Don't worry, Mel will be on a lot this weekend. McShay is around more often and he always wants to work. Anything you need, he's extremely helpful.
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Old 04-25-2009, 11:20 AM   #17
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Sometimes Kiper gets on my nerves (I think it's the hair), but I don't dislike him. McShay is really solid IMO. I'm not sure if it's their delivery, but I feel like Mike Mayock is the best talent evaluator of the three. I really love his analysis during the scouting combine.

On a side note, the "Mock McShay" bit on Mike & Mike in the Morning was hilarious. "Hey McShay, are you related to Ryan Seacrest or are the hair and height a coincidence?" LOL! Great stuff.

Anyone see this article in the NY Times yesterday? Great read about Mel Kiper and his wife Kim. They run their entire business out of their home in Baltimore. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/24/sp...l/24kiper.html
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Old 04-25-2009, 11:33 AM   #18
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Re: Kiper, Mayock, or Mcshay?

If I had to choose one, I'd say Kiper. That's because of his passion and his style. I love the faces he makes when a team makes a pick that he doesn't like. And he's the original media Draft Guru, as far as I know.

I think Mayock does great write-ups of his evaluations. McShay seems to be on top of all things concerning the NFL Draft. So, I enjoy what each of them has to offer.
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Old 04-25-2009, 11:57 AM   #19
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If I had to choose one, I'd say Kiper. That's because of his passion and his style. I love the faces he makes when a team makes a pick that he doesn't like. And he's the original media Draft Guru, as far as I know.

I think Mayock does great write-ups of his evaluations. McShay seems to be on top of all things concerning the NFL Draft. So, I enjoy what each of them has to offer.
I agree somewhat. None of them are all correct or all wrong so it is good to have a plurality of voices.

If I had to choose just one, though, it would be Mayock in terms of both knowledge and style.
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Re: Kiper, Mayock, or Mcshay?

I like Mayock, Mcshay's a douche and Kiper is very irritating..plus Mayock played the game
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Old 04-25-2009, 12:13 PM   #21
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Re: Kiper, Mayock, or Mcshay?

I think Mayock does the best work of the three. However, I think the wisdom in draft analysis comes not just in one unique opinion, but in the collective. As long as they develop their own opinions independent of each other, I think that the process is functional.
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Old 04-25-2009, 12:52 PM   #22
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Haha nice thread topic for a change. I prefer Kiper in both style and knowledge. He tends to relate things in terms of value more which is the a huge factor in the draft.
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Old 04-25-2009, 02:00 PM   #23
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I don't get this whole McShay is a douche thing. He's really not, not at all. He's actually a pretty good guy. And, like I said, always willing to help with anything.
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Old 04-25-2009, 02:03 PM   #24
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I like Kiper but i can't stand listening to Berman for more then 5 minutes. I guess i'll be watching NFLN today.
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Old 04-25-2009, 02:40 PM   #25
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I am also a Kiper guy, however I wish ESPN would not put the vast majority of his analysis in the "Insider." I usually look at ESPN at work so I can't log in...etc to give me some degree of deniability. Wish Kiper was like Peter King on CNNSI, right up front!
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Old 04-25-2009, 03:01 PM   #26
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Re: Kiper, Mayock, or Mcshay?

I like Kiper but cant watch because Berman likes to announce every draft pick 5 seconds before the commish, That drives me apeshit.

It's all about mayock this year.
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I don't get this whole McShay is a douche thing. He's really not, not at all. He's actually a pretty good guy. And, like I said, always willing to help with anything.
I don't think he comes across well on tv. There're times where I catch a segment that he's doing and his personality (or at least how it comes across) just rubs me the wrong way. Hard to put a finger on "likability."
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Old 04-25-2009, 03:24 PM   #28
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Kiper is a Character, fun to watch and hear his angle on things.
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Re: Kiper, Mayock, or Mcshay?

Mayock is the man. He gets up on the board and breaks guys down plus like someone else mentioned he's actually played in the NFL. Very very knowledgeable and his vibe isn't as annoying as Mel Kiper.
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Re: Kiper, Mayock, or Mcshay?

I think they all have something to add but the draft just would'nt seem right to me without Kiper.
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