Grade the Redskins Draft!

GusFrerotte · 04-26-2009, 10:03 PM

I was going to give us a B before that FB/TE pick. The LBs I could halfway understand even if it were for depths sake. Barnes needs to hit the weight room and stay healthy for him to be worth anything. The WR from Nevada on paper seems like he has a better chance to make the team than the 3 guys picked above him. I give it a C now. I know there will be FA linemen out there, but it would have been nice to get another possible Samuels or two in the fold. I rather sign a lower round draftee linemen than pay more $$$$$ for an older, not as strong vet.

CRedskinsRule · 04-26-2009, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

I was going to give us a B before that FB/TE pick. The LBs I could halfway understand even if it were for depths sake. Barnes needs to hit the weight room and stay healthy for him to be worth anything. The WR from Nevada on paper seems like he has a better chance to make the team than the 3 guys picked above him. I give it a C now. I know there will be FA linemen out there, but it would have been nice to get another possible Samuels or two in the fold.

Samuels was the 3rd pick in his draft, we weren't getting another samuels in the 5-7th round. Best we could get is a Dockery, and I guess the FO is assuming Rinehart might develop this year. To really upgrade the line at this point (not just make it younger for the sake of youth) we need to find a G/T upgrade from other teams cuts.

Ruhskins · 04-26-2009, 10:10 PM

I think if the o-line was to be addressed, it would have been with the #1 pick. I would give the draft a B grade because:

- Good smokescreen with the whole Sanchez deal
- Picking Orakpo
- Picking up Barnes
- Adding depth to LB corps

I think I'd rather address the o-line with a post draft FA than a low round rookie. I still think Buges is telling the team that he has faith on his linemen though, and well I hope for the sake of the team that he's right.

skinsfan69 · 04-26-2009, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GMScud

Well, the picks are in. What is your grade (A+ through F-) and why?

EDIT: Since a few people are questioning what exactly it is I'm asking you to grade, consider: Based on the Redskins needs heading into Saturday, and based on the projections of the players we selected, assign a letter grade to your preliminary assessment of the Redskins 2009 draft class.

1- Brian Orakpo (DE)
3- Kevin Barnes (CB)
5- Cody Glenn (OLB)
6- Robert Henson (OLB)
7- Eddie Williams (TE/FB)
7- Marko Mitchell (WR)

I gvie it a C. LOVE Orakpo, love that we didn't go after Sanchez. Hate that we didn't upgrade the OL, and the Cody Glenn pick is a head scratcher.

Yeah I'm with you on the O-line. What are we going to do at RT and O-line depth??? Does our FO put any value on the O-line?? Outside of Orakpo I'm not too sure about the rest of these guys. I give it a C-.

GusFrerotte · 04-26-2009, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Did not like the LBs. They were undersized and with character concerns. Full backs bore the crap out of me. Like the WR, just for the simple fact that his measurables look good. Orakpo was a flat out steal. Second best case scenario to us drafting Sanchez at thirteen.

After the Orakpo and Barnes picks, nothing made any real sense. We could have picked up a decent T in round 3. Barnes, if he can stay healthy and maybe bulk up a bit, can be a solid player for us. Other than those 2, I would say the WR Mitchell seems to be the only one that could really help us out in any way if our two other young WRs don't pan out.

KI Skins Fan · 04-26-2009, 10:13 PM

Grade: C. Orakpo should fill a need. Barnes can be a good nickle back. But who the heck are those other guys? And where are the O-Linemen? On second thought, make that grade a D.

GTripp0012 · 04-26-2009, 10:14 PM

A-. D for effort. A for results. Results always trump effort.

Mattyk · 04-26-2009, 10:15 PM

How do you grade effort exactly??

GusFrerotte · 04-26-2009, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Samuels was the 3rd pick in his draft, we weren't getting another samuels in the 5-7th round. Best we could get is a Dockery, and I guess the FO is assuming Rinehart might develop this year. To really upgrade the line at this point (not just make it younger for the sake of youth) we need to find a G/T upgrade from other teams cuts.

I rather look for undrafted rookies first. Youth is only part of the equation. Money is the big factor. Sign a vet FA and it is going to cost you money, big money if he is any good. Sign a bunch of undrafted rooks and work them out. If you can get 2-3 of them to be worth keeping good for you. You can keep them around for a long time and they will only get better. Plugging in older vets like we have hasn't been the best option. Our guys are getting dinged up way too often.

Lotus · 04-26-2009, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

I rather look for undrafted rookies first. Youth is only part of the equation. Money is the big factor. Sign a vet FA and it is going to cost you money, big money if he is any good. Sign a bunch of undrafted rooks and work them out. If you can get 2-3 of them to be worth keeping good for you. You can keep them around for a long time and they will only get better. Plugging in older vets like we have hasn't been the best option. Our guys are getting dinged up way too often.

True, but those rookies have to have the right level of talent. A vet should have some talent.

cobracai1 · 04-26-2009, 10:23 PM

I give this draft a B+. Love the Orakpo and Barnes pick. I've said it before but I honestly believe Barnes was a steal!! To be honest not too familiar with the two LBs so im just hoping for the best. The FB looks to have come from a West Coast Offense so thats a plus. And the WR might have some potenital a la Anthony Mix.

Look I know everyone is pissed (including myself) that we ended up with basically the same O-line but I believe that some of this was Buges's doing. He loves the vets and probably felt that none of the talent available outside of the first was any better than what we have on the team. I would like to think that if Buges REALLY pushed for Duke or Meredith in the 5th it would have happened but it didn't. I've posted somewhere else about why I don't care much for Duke but Meredith seemed like a good pick at the time. I think Buges doesn't see him as an upgrade to either Jansen or Heyer to be honest with you guys and thats fine with me. I don't think we should get O line just to say we did (I stole this from Gtripp). Lets see how things unfold.

SmootSmack · 04-26-2009, 10:30 PM

I'll count the UDFAs as part of the draft, and so I'll bump them up to a B- with the Williams signing.

Lotus · 04-26-2009, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by cobracai1

I give this draft a B+. Love the Orakpo and Barnes pick. I've said it before but I honestly believe Barnes was a steal!! To be honest not too familiar with the two LBs so im just hoping for the best. The FB looks to have come from a West Coast Offense so thats a plus. And the WR might have some potenital a la Anthony Mix.

Look I know everyone is pissed (including myself) that we ended up with basically the same O-line but I believe that some of this was Buges's doing. He loves the vets and probably felt that none of the talent available outside of the first was any better than what we have on the team. I would like to think that if Buges REALLY pushed for Duke or Meredith in the 5th it would have happened but it didn't. I've posted somewhere else about why I don't care much for Duke but Meredith seemed like a good pick at the time. I think Buges doesn't see him as an upgrade to either Jansen or Heyer to be honest with you guys and thats fine with me. I don't think we should get O line just to say we did (I stole this from Gtripp). Lets see how things unfold.

For the better part of of the draft no one thought Meredith was a good pick. Then, if he just fallen a few more picks, we may have taken him. He could have been a just-miss.

tryfuhl · 04-26-2009, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

I rather look for undrafted rookies first. Youth is only part of the equation. Money is the big factor. Sign a vet FA and it is going to cost you money, big money if he is any good. Sign a bunch of undrafted rooks and work them out. If you can get 2-3 of them to be worth keeping good for you. You can keep them around for a long time and they will only get better. Plugging in older vets like we have hasn't been the best option. Our guys are getting dinged up way too often.

If a guy gets cut he's not going to be able to demand big money, usually. There are always exceptions but yeah. So signing a cut guy isn't too bad if it buys you some time and he works out better than anybody else that you brought in. After draft trades I'm a bit weary of just because I like having our picks next year.

So our team needs to stay healthy through camp/preseason so we don't have to give up picks to acquire guys.

tryfuhl · 04-26-2009, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'll count the UDFAs as part of the draft, and so I'll bump them up to a B- with the Williams signing.

Well Williams was drafted in 2002, but as far as FA pickups, not a bad prospect, but I'm not sure how he raises the grade any.

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04-26-2009, 10:03 PM	#61
GusFrerotte Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Detroit area Posts: 3,961	Re: Grade the Redskins Draft! I was going to give us a B before that FB/TE pick. The LBs I could halfway understand even if it were for depths sake. Barnes needs to hit the weight room and stay healthy for him to be worth anything. The WR from Nevada on paper seems like he has a better chance to make the team than the 3 guys picked above him. I give it a C now. I know there will be FA linemen out there, but it would have been nice to get another possible Samuels or two in the fold. I rather sign a lower round draftee linemen than pay more $$$$$ for an older, not as strong vet.

04-26-2009, 10:10 PM	#63
Ruhskins Gamebreaker Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Columbia, MD Age: 34 Posts: 14,593	Re: Grade the Redskins Draft! I think if the o-line was to be addressed, it would have been with the #1 pick. I would give the draft a B grade because: - Good smokescreen with the whole Sanchez deal - Picking Orakpo - Picking up Barnes - Adding depth to LB corps I think I'd rather address the o-line with a post draft FA than a low round rookie. I still think Buges is telling the team that he has faith on his linemen though, and well I hope for the sake of the team that he's right. __________________ R.I.P. #21 New words created on The Warpath: Rewalsr - Somretimes - Fualt - Jersesy - Itiot - Composetory Afeard - Storgn - Empliment - Gaissn - Saftys - Minnisota Faviort - Hatter - Phsyched - Foof - Heloing - Brutual Stroried Check out this cool local internet radio show Weds 7-9pm: The DC Sports Chat I sense an annoyance in the Force

04-26-2009, 10:13 PM	#66
KI Skins Fan The Starter Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: MD Eastern Shore Posts: 1,297	Re: Grade the Redskins Draft! Grade: C. Orakpo should fill a need. Barnes can be a good nickle back. But who the heck are those other guys? And where are the O-Linemen? On second thought, make that grade a D.

04-26-2009, 10:14 PM	#67
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04-26-2009, 10:23 PM	#71
cobracai1 Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Georgetown Posts: 84	Re: Grade the Redskins Draft! I give this draft a B+. Love the Orakpo and Barnes pick. I've said it before but I honestly believe Barnes was a steal!! To be honest not too familiar with the two LBs so im just hoping for the best. The FB looks to have come from a West Coast Offense so thats a plus. And the WR might have some potenital a la Anthony Mix. Look I know everyone is pissed (including myself) that we ended up with basically the same O-line but I believe that some of this was Buges's doing. He loves the vets and probably felt that none of the talent available outside of the first was any better than what we have on the team. I would like to think that if Buges REALLY pushed for Duke or Meredith in the 5th it would have happened but it didn't. I've posted somewhere else about why I don't care much for Duke but Meredith seemed like a good pick at the time. I think Buges doesn't see him as an upgrade to either Jansen or Heyer to be honest with you guys and thats fine with me. I don't think we should get O line just to say we did (I stole this from Gtripp). Lets see how things unfold.

04-26-2009, 10:30 PM	#72
SmootSmack Mad Men Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,099	Re: Grade the Redskins Draft! I'll count the UDFAs as part of the draft, and so I'll bump them up to a B- with the Williams signing. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

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