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Old 04-27-2009, 10:28 AM   #46
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Re: Undrafted Rookies Signed

So far the list:

QB-Chase Daniel (Missouri)
OT-Scott Burley (Maryland)
DE-Derek Walker (Illinois)
WR-Josh Briscoe (Tennessee)
C-Edwin Williams (Maryland)
WR-Jaison Williams (Oregon)
CB-Doug Dutch (Michigan)
DT-Brigham Harwell (UCLA)
LB-Ronnie Palmer (Arizona)
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Old 04-27-2009, 10:29 AM   #47
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He was being sarcastic. The same exact things can be (and were) said about Brennan who somehow is the next coming (in some fans eyes) of Tom Brady.
Yea, I kinda caught it after I sent the message. lol
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Old 04-27-2009, 10:30 AM   #48
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sometimes i wonder about you Terp fans. if these guys are so good, why isn't Maryland consistently playing in the B.C.S series?
For the record, not a Terps fan, just think we hit the jackpot with Barnes and Williams. Barnes is a strong nickel-corner, which you need more than ever these days. And I think Williams can be our starting C sooner than later.
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Old 04-27-2009, 10:37 AM   #49
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For the record I am Terps fan. I was excited last year when we got Crummey & I'm 10times more excited about getting Williams. He is a steal and coworker who went to college with him told me he is a life long Redskins fan.
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Old 04-27-2009, 11:42 AM   #50
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i love the pickup of daniels. i thought he was amazing in college, and think he could be a good backup qb in this league.
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Absolutely. What a steal!
He's getting a lot of love from those who generally know their stuff around here. Why? and, if he's such a steal, what were the reasons he was not on anyone's radar? Just curious.
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i love the pickup of daniels. i thought he was amazing in college, and think he could be a good backup qb in this league.
Yep. We should trade Collins for a pick next year to let Colt and Daniels fight for #2 and #3.

SO glad we picked up that Center from MD.
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Easy guys, edwin williams doesn't seem so sexy according to scouts inc

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Production 2 2004: Maryland red shirts Williams. 2005: Williams plays in the final 10 games of the season. 2006-2008: Williams starts 39 games at center.
Height-Weight-Speed 3 Adequate height and good bulk but marginal top-end speed.
Durability 2 Durability isn't a concern to our knowledge.
Character 2 2008: Member of the 2008 Terrapin Council, the team's leadership committee. 2004: Offensive scout team player of the year.
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Strength/Toughness 4 Runs though downfield blocks and flashes the ability to put linebackers on their backs. (see 2008 Clemson game) Upper body strength is just adequate and doesn't jar defenders with a violent initial punch. Appears to gear down before the whistle too much.
Agility 4 Doesn't show great body control in space and loses balance at times. Moves well laterally but struggles to change directions quickly.
Awareness 3 Keeps head on a swivel and does a nice job of recognizing line stunts/blitzes. Vocal, appears to read defensive fronts well and makes sound line calls. Appears to look left when first step is to that side during 2008 Clemson game.
Pass Protection 3 Takes first step as snaps the ball and gets set quickly. Digs in and flashes the ability to hold ground working against bull rushers but doesn't sink hips well enough and it could be more of an issue at the NFL level.
Run Blocking 3 Quicker than fast and can beat defenders to the point of contact. Gets adequate hand placement and fights to stay in position once locked on but doesn't get great push, leans and slips off some blocks as a result. Shows far better range than timed speed suggests. Does a good job of opening hips when asked to pull or trap and efficient getting around the corner.
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Old 04-27-2009, 11:56 AM   #54
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So with that QB signing does that mean JC will be seeking a trade now? Any word on that?
because of an UDFA? not a chance lol

Zorn stated we'd have 4 bodies in at QB before the season, I mean, we're not going to keep Collins forever, maybe not Colt either
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Old 04-27-2009, 12:02 PM   #55
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I think we also signed QB Joe Ganz

Joe Ganz - 2009 Draft Tracker - SI.com
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Daniels;

Analysis
Positives: Gutty, competitive field general. A virtual coach on the field. Reads defenses well and checks down effectively. Good accuracy to all levels. Shows enough zip in the short to intermediate throws when given a deep pocket. Good touch to place the ball between the linebackers and safeties down the seams. More elusive than often given credit for. Can buy time in and out of the pocket and shows good accuracy on the move.


Negatives: May be too short for the NFL. Scouts believe his success in this system is greatly tied to throwing out of the shotgun -- and thereby the open passing lanes and middle underneath passes of the scheme. Seemed to provide further evidence of this theory with his struggles at the East-West Shrine game. Questionable arm strength. Has the zip to complete the short and intermediate passes, but has to wind-up for longer throws and due to his lack of height and release point, longer passes tend to sail.

Camp Fodder. Perhaps I'm wrong and they can Collins to get younger, but I doubt it.

Edit: Although my mags compare him to Jeff Garcia.
Signing Chase Daniels as an undrafted rookie is a good selection. First of all by signing an undrafted quarterback, it doesn't inflame the poor relationship between the Redskins and Jason Campbell. Secondly, Daniels was a standout at Mizzou. I live in Missouri and watch Mizzou every week, Daniels is one of the most accurate and smart quarterbacks to come along. What he lacks in size, he more than makes up with tuffness and execution. He is short, just like Jeff Garcia, but he is built sturdy like a running back and can run if necessary. I would like to see Colt Brennan win the backup quarterback job and allow Collins to be released.
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Old 04-27-2009, 12:04 PM   #57
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He's getting a lot of love from those who generally know their stuff around here. Why? and, if he's such a steal, what were the reasons he was not on anyone's radar? Just curious.
I think he plays above his natural talent level. Smart, good kid who has probably overachieved much of his life. You need talent to succeed at the NFL level, so I think maybe his "lack" of talent and the fact that he plays C/G knocked him down toward the later rounds of the draft.

Still, having been around him (way back when he was in high school, granted) I think there's really something special about him. He'll go out there, work hard, and won't make mistakes.
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Old 04-27-2009, 12:08 PM   #58
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Re: Undrafted Rookies Signed

Williams may not be an all pro, but I will take him over Geisenger

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Easy guys, edwin williams doesn't seem so sexy according to scouts inc

Overall Football Traits
Production 2 2004: Maryland red shirts Williams. 2005: Williams plays in the final 10 games of the season. 2006-2008: Williams starts 39 games at center.
Height-Weight-Speed 3 Adequate height and good bulk but marginal top-end speed.
Durability 2 Durability isn't a concern to our knowledge.
Character 2 2008: Member of the 2008 Terrapin Council, the team's leadership committee. 2004: Offensive scout team player of the year.
Offensive Center specific Traits
Strength/Toughness 4 Runs though downfield blocks and flashes the ability to put linebackers on their backs. (see 2008 Clemson game) Upper body strength is just adequate and doesn't jar defenders with a violent initial punch. Appears to gear down before the whistle too much.
Agility 4 Doesn't show great body control in space and loses balance at times. Moves well laterally but struggles to change directions quickly.
Awareness 3 Keeps head on a swivel and does a nice job of recognizing line stunts/blitzes. Vocal, appears to read defensive fronts well and makes sound line calls. Appears to look left when first step is to that side during 2008 Clemson game.
Pass Protection 3 Takes first step as snaps the ball and gets set quickly. Digs in and flashes the ability to hold ground working against bull rushers but doesn't sink hips well enough and it could be more of an issue at the NFL level.
Run Blocking 3 Quicker than fast and can beat defenders to the point of contact. Gets adequate hand placement and fights to stay in position once locked on but doesn't get great push, leans and slips off some blocks as a result. Shows far better range than timed speed suggests. Does a good job of opening hips when asked to pull or trap and efficient getting around the corner.
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Easy guys, edwin williams doesn't seem so sexy according to scouts inc

Overall Football Traits
Production 2 2004: Maryland red shirts Williams. 2005: Williams plays in the final 10 games of the season. 2006-2008: Williams starts 39 games at center.
Height-Weight-Speed 3 Adequate height and good bulk but marginal top-end speed.
Durability 2 Durability isn't a concern to our knowledge.
Character 2 2008: Member of the 2008 Terrapin Council, the team's leadership committee. 2004: Offensive scout team player of the year.
Offensive Center specific Traits
Strength/Toughness 4 Runs though downfield blocks and flashes the ability to put linebackers on their backs. (see 2008 Clemson game) Upper body strength is just adequate and doesn't jar defenders with a violent initial punch. Appears to gear down before the whistle too much.
Agility 4 Doesn't show great body control in space and loses balance at times. Moves well laterally but struggles to change directions quickly.
Awareness 3 Keeps head on a swivel and does a nice job of recognizing line stunts/blitzes. Vocal, appears to read defensive fronts well and makes sound line calls. Appears to look left when first step is to that side during 2008 Clemson game.
Pass Protection 3 Takes first step as snaps the ball and gets set quickly. Digs in and flashes the ability to hold ground working against bull rushers but doesn't sink hips well enough and it could be more of an issue at the NFL level.
Run Blocking 3 Quicker than fast and can beat defenders to the point of contact. Gets adequate hand placement and fights to stay in position once locked on but doesn't get great push, leans and slips off some blocks as a result. Shows far better range than timed speed suggests. Does a good job of opening hips when asked to pull or trap and efficient getting around the corner.
that grades him right around average, many guys taken after the draft grade below that, I've never seen him play, but that report doesn't bother me too much
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that grades him right around average, many guys taken after the draft grade below that, I've never seen him play, but that report doesn't bother me too much
Yeah. I am sure that players like M.Colston or J. Peters also got "average" grades.

Being a Maryland grad, I would love to see the Terps' players do well in the pros. I would like it even more if they did well in the pros for the 'Skins!
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