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04-28-2009, 11:16 AM
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| Playmaker  Join Date: Feb 2006
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| Re: Most Likely First Round Bust Quote:
1) Heyward Bey did not run that many vertical routes in college, but it was the one route that he ran well. He doesn't cut very quickly & doesn't run most routes very efficiently. Not great hands either. 2) Percy Harvin didn't run many vertical routes, despite the press about his great speed. Overall he didn't run a wide variety of routes & Fla. got him the ball in a variety of ways, including handoffs. 3) Hakeem Nicks doesn't have great "vertical speed" but he gets in & out of his breaks quickly & runs the deep in, 20 yards & cut inside, very well. He compared him to Torry Holt, a wr that never had great speed but could get open downfield. He felt there were only some fairly minor tweaks to his route running that were needed to make him an effective pro. I saw Nicks a few times & thought he had great hands & was a strong, physical wr. I liked him before, but I think he might be the best of this class after listening to Joyner. Overall Joyner thought Harvin & Heyard-Bey were much lesser wr's at this point & he questioned if both were capable of being good nfl recievers. | |
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04-28-2009, 11:48 AM
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| Living Legend  Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Age: 25
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| Re: Most Likely First Round Bust Quote:
Right now, I look at his frame and keep hearing about his general lack of intangibles and just wonder, "how are they going to use this guy?"
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04-28-2009, 11:53 AM
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| Playmaker  Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Age: 42
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| Re: Most Likely First Round Bust Quote:
Among his 'misses' over the past few months: -Redskins won't be involved in/be able to afford/sign Haynesworth. -Redskins won't be able to retain DeAngelo Hall -Redskins won't be able to afford Haynesworth and Hall -Redskins will keep Springs for at least another year -Redskins will keep Jason Taylor for at least another year -Redskins will look to trade Carlos Rogers and/or Rocky McIntosh before the draft -Redskins won't be involved in Cutler talks -Redskins won't be interested in Sanchez Of course he also said last season that we'd be no better than 6-10. I'm amazed the Post hasn't moved or replaced him on the Redskins beat. Jason Reid seems to be more more unbiased and has a good rapport with the players. He also seems like he hasn't pissed off the front office like JLC has. I'd like to see Reid as the #1 and have JLC cover DC United (are they still around?).
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04-28-2009, 12:36 PM
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| Camp Scrub  Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Jersey City, NJ
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| Re: Most Likely First Round Bust No doubt it will be Sanchez. Who does he have to throw to? |
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04-28-2009, 01:18 PM
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| Mann Up HOF!   Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS
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| Re: Most Likely First Round Bust Quote:
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04-28-2009, 02:04 PM
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| Special Teams  Join Date: Feb 2009
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| Re: Most Likely First Round Bust Damn JLC. I just can't even read his columns. It's like listening to Chris Matthews and Fox News. No matter what the event is, their opinions are made up before anything's even happened. Orakpo will be GOOD this year, with 6 sacks I predict, rotating at DE with Daniels and Wynn. 2010 Orakpo will probably have 10.5 sacks, and only continue to improve. Andre Smith is the guaranteed bust of this draft. Look what happened when the Nick Saban locker room disappeared?- Out of shape, stupid, lazy, terrible character. The Bang-gals locker room is a POS. He walks away with his signing bonus and pisses it away in 3 years. Hope the kid proves me wrong. For his sake. |
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04-28-2009, 10:27 PM
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| Camp Scrub  Join Date: Dec 2008
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| Re: Most Likely First Round Bust Quote:
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04-30-2009, 01:11 PM
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| The Starter  Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: 36.28 x 76.22 Age: 61
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| Re: Most Likely First Round Bust Quote:
Great record keeping Pain! JLC's stats are far worse than Orapkos. JLC feels Orapko is a bust, we all feel JLC is the bust!
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04-30-2009, 02:31 PM
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| Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004
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| Re: Most Likely First Round Bust Stafford and Freeman will not be worthy of the slot they were taken. Ergo, they will be "busts". I don't like the Beanie Wells pick much. Here is my reservation about how good a player Orakpo can become. I am "old school" about defensive ends; I think they have to be able to play the run very well IN ADDITION TO rushing the passer upfield on every play and coming around the tackle for sacks. When I saw Orapko, he did NOT play the run very well. If he works and learns to do that, he can become excellent; if not he will become a third down pass-rush specialist. And if that is all he becomes, then for the #13 pick in the draft he will be disappointing. Time will tell...
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04-30-2009, 03:03 PM
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| Re: Most Likely First Round Bust anyone from Ohio State ...Hail to the Victor...Wolverines Rule...lol |
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04-30-2009, 03:09 PM
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| Camp Scrub Join Date: Aug 2008
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| Re: Most Likely First Round Bust Mark Sanchez! |
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05-05-2009, 01:18 PM
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| Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Ewing, NJ
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| Re: Most Likely First Round Bust Heyward-Bey has it written all over him. Davis picked him way too high. |
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05-05-2009, 07:44 PM
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| Special Teams  Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Franklin, TN
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| Re: Most Likely First Round Bust Quote:
i agree! | |
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05-05-2009, 07:57 PM
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| Playmaker  Join Date: May 2007 Location: Harrisburg, PA Age: 29
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| Re: Most Likely First Round Bust Alex Mack
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05-05-2009, 09:15 PM
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| Franchise Player  Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: 31 Spooner St. Age: 38
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| Re: Most Likely First Round Bust The ones I thought of have already been mentioned...so I'm going to say Mark Sanchez! Yes, he is not going to be what people think he's going to be. Certainly freeman is WAAAAY too overrated as well. Heyward-Bey is the easiest pick of all time...what a stupid pick.
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