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Old 09-19-2009, 03:43 PM   #121
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The Danny already tried a hotshot Gators coach with a spread offense run by his college QBs. Run away from that notion. Far, far away.
Does the Danny learn from his mistakes? I have seen no evidence of this.
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Old 09-19-2009, 06:25 PM   #122
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Let me point out, I am NOT ready to trade in Campbell for Tebow right now...but I certainly reserve that right come season's end. Either Campbell produces THIS year, or it's time for him to go. He still has a leash in my mind, but a short one.
These next few weeks are going to be dangerous as it relates to fans perception of Campbell as I think he's going to do good very good the next few weeks, and as a result people will start talking about Campbell as the next franchise QB. His only early test will be Carolina and then his first definite test will be against the Eagles on the 26th of October and the Falcons the following week (though that might be more of a test for defense). How he ends the season against the Giants, Cowboys, and Chargers will really determine what we have in Campbell.

These next three weeks on the other hand should serve as more of a field sobriety test in that he better have a rating over 90 with at least 6 TD passes and 600 yards. Of course more importantly we should win thanks to him not in spite of him.
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Old 09-19-2009, 07:19 PM   #123
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Tebow in the NFL will be like a bad relationship.

You know the story. The woman looks really good, she performs well, and there is so much promise that you hook up.

Later, your heart is broken, the promise turned out to be empty, and you can barely look at her anymore.

Just say no to Tebow.
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Old 09-19-2009, 08:48 PM   #124
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These next few weeks are going to be dangerous as it relates to fans perception of Campbell as I think he's going to do good very good the next few weeks, and as a result people will start talking about Campbell as the next franchise QB. His only early test will be Carolina and then his first definite test will be against the Eagles on the 26th of October and the Falcons the following week (though that might be more of a test for defense). How he ends the season against the Giants, Cowboys, and Chargers will really determine what we have in Campbell.

These next three weeks on the other hand should serve as more of a field sobriety test in that he better have a rating over 90 with at least 6 TD passes and 600 yards. Of course more importantly we should win thanks to him not in spite of him.
Even if Campbell does all of those things, if Portis just happens to go for 120, 89, and 107 yards in the next three weeks, people will just credit Portis for all of Campbell's success.

That's what happened last year.
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Old 09-19-2009, 09:18 PM   #125
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Even if Campbell does all of those things, if Portis just happens to go for 120, 89, and 107 yards in the next three weeks, people will just credit Portis for all of Campbell's success.

That's what happened last year.
GTripp how bout those Wolverines? But you're totally right that's exactly what would happen CP26 would get all the credit...
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Old 09-19-2009, 09:35 PM   #126
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I think what he was saying with the past QB's from UF flopping implies a trend of something in their system that creates a propensity for failure at the NFL level...to add to his list, Rex Grossman, Chris Leak...

By arguing the negative as a counterpoint (i.e. Notre Dame + Joe Montana = QB factory) you are committing a logical fallacy. Just b/c one implies the other doesn't mean the opposite is true.

Look, I think a much more sound way of debunking that past UF QB's theory is by arguing that the success rate of ANY college QB is low and since UF players have that much more national exposure and hype coming into the draft, the failures of their QB's tend to be magnified. However, it is somewhat telling that there is a pretty long line of failures with very few success stories to balance the equation. Compound that with the fact that they get some real quality guys coming out of high school and, statistically speaking, one would figure at least one of those guys would be a real hit. Thus far it hasn't happened, IMO, but that's not to say it won't ever happen. Who knows maybe over the next decade they could churn out QB's like USC did in the last decade?
I think the Florida QB "curse" is legitimate. Why? Simple, in college, the offense still has a bigger edge than in the pros. The fun n gun and its variants can make even an average to above average QB look great. Florida was becoming a power before Spurrier under Galen Hall, Spurrier was the one who got the over the "hump" in becoming a true national power. None of Hall's or Spurrier's QBs really did anything in the pros. Tebow is more athletic than any other Florida QB in recent memory, but the guy is way overhyped. As for USC and their QB's? That is a mixed bag. Yeah you have Leinhart and Palmer, but that is it. Remember Sean Salisbury? Rodney Pete was OK for awhile, but was a bench warmer for the most part. Palmer is an injury waiting to happen and Leinhart had an old geezer beat him out!!!!
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Old 09-19-2009, 11:52 PM   #127
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Ok fellow Skins fans, we are all guilty of this. I am old enough to have been alive for the last Skins Super Bowl (albeit 5 years) but we have to have some PATIENCE. That is the key word. I know that Jason has been under the magnifying glass for just over four years, but let Coach Zorn earn his paycheck. Last week was sobering, (I nearly broke the family's big screen with my Sperry boat shoe) but we have to take a deep breath and just move on. He may no be the "franchise" quaterback we had hoped when Ole Ball coach Gibbs drafted him, but he is our best shot this year and he is still a good QB. He might not be a Tom Brady, but he is still above marginal. That being said, before we crucify him and run him out of town...let's let him do his business against the teams we should (and NEED to beat over the next 3-4 weeks) and then go from there. Although it may not be against NFC East teams, 4-1 after 5 weeks in the NFL is still 4-1. We will be just fine. Let's not be doomsdayers. I will bleed burgundy and gold until the day I die. Keep the faith fellow Americans. God Bless.
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Old 09-20-2009, 12:28 AM   #128
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Tebow in the NFL will be like a bad relationship.

You know the story. The woman looks really good, she performs well, and there is so much promise that you hook up.

Later, your heart is broken, the promise turned out to be empty, and you can barely look at her anymore.

Just say no to Tebow.
Don't be bitter bro. Just move on to the next one.
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Tebow in the NFL will be like a bad relationship.

You know the story. The woman looks really good, she performs well, and there is so much promise that you hook up.

Later, your heart is broken, the promise turned out to be empty, and you can barely look at her anymore.

Just say no to Tebow.
Sounds like the relationship that we are in now with Jason. Just that you stick with the broad (excuse me ladies) because shes cool, but in reality you hate her because she does nothing to keep you around. You've been with her this long so you might as well stick through it only to break up with her one year too late.
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Old 09-20-2009, 02:39 AM   #130
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tebow = intensity.
redskins need intensity!
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Old 09-20-2009, 04:07 AM   #131
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tebow = intensity.
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Please, by that logic we could use Joakim Noah. Though I do admit I do like the kind of passion that Tebow brings to the table.
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Old 09-20-2009, 01:01 PM   #132
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Please, by that logic we could use Joakim Noah. Though I do admit I do like the kind of passion that Tebow brings to the table.
Seriously? You could use someone that is averaging 10.6ppg and 10.6rpg per 36 minutes only going into his 3rd season that has intensity. Just in case you didn't notice, and judging by your comment, you likely haven't, you had 19 wins last year. 19 WINS!!! You could use all the help you can get! Which we will need if Campbell doesn't produce.

I am really curious as to what exactly it is that makes Tebow NOT nfl ready, but other college qb's NFL ready...in particular McCoy.
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Old 09-20-2009, 04:10 PM   #133
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Tebow wont make it past the jaguars, they are in love with him. As for bradford and mccoy they are not the anwser either, what we need is ol, pure and simple ol and lots of it.
That's the truth right there, and the best reason to kill off this thread. I've never seen a team drool so openly over a guy who is three games into his senior season. I'm gonna keep an eye on the Jags down the stretch to see if they intentionally tank their season to get in a better draft position. Tebow is a Jacksonville local, so it is part talent, BIG part ticket sales.

You guys can spend all day talking about whether or not Tebow will be a QB in the NFL. His skills really don't matter in this case . . . the Jaguars will draft him and start him as QB.

Keep an eye on the Jags late in the season. We may have a whole new definition of the "Florida Flop."

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Old 09-20-2009, 10:34 PM   #134
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Be interesting to see if the mock drafts change this week. WASH QB Locker may move into top 15. Watch for an update later this week to the NFL Mock Draft Database. Since theWarpath is the home for DCPSR, updates will come here first.
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Be interesting to see if the mock drafts change this week. WASH QB Locker may move into top 15. Watch for an update later this week to the NFL Mock Draft Database. Since theWarpath is the home for DCPSR, updates will come here first.
Wouldn't mind seeing CJ Spiller here.
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