Sam Bradford now leads to Redskins

GusFrerotte · 11-05-2009, 09:58 PM

[quote=skinsfaninok;620964]No DC these guys forget about what Bradford has accomplished, leading the best Offense in College History.. I have seen this kid many times in person and he is as cool off the field as he is on the field. I know I am making a homer pick but we would be in great hands drafting Sam.[/quot

College means jack once his bowl game is over Okie. How many of these over hyped studs make the grade anymore in the NFL. Answer: not too many. Only one current NFL QB that had obtained a lot of college hype has made it real big in the NFL and that is Peyton Manning. Eli won a SB, but won't rise to his brother's level of play. Flacco and Ryan were under the radar so to speak. Ryan did get some hype at BC, but not a whole lot compared to what the "dream 3" are getting now. Plus, Ryan is fading as of late. Not saying Bradford won't make it, but the odds are against him. Think about our sorry post Gibbs I past with QBs. The most successful QB in terms of wins if I am not mistake is my man Gus, and he came from Tulsa(Hey another Okie!!!!) a smaller university with not much fanfare. To me the thing is this. THese overhyped guys are from college football powerhouses totally stacked with talent, which usually totally outgun the competition. Add the fact that the Big 12 isn't known for defense and you can get a Colt Brennan type thing with Hawaii. In the NFL, Sam isn't going to have such an overwhelming advantage. IN DC his line won't be super dominant like the one he enjoys in Norman.

skinsfaninok · 11-05-2009, 09:58 PM

Hey lotus are you at Southern Miss? I used to live in Biloxi so i've been to Hattiesburg a couple times...

Lotus · 11-05-2009, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Well I don't really think he's our PERFECT pick just because he's indian lol, but hey our last SB winning QB was also Indian if i'm correct. (Rypian) So what the hell, lets go with him lol

There is something right about the Redskins being led by a Native American.

skinsfaninok · 11-05-2009, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

No DC these guys forget about what Bradford has accomplished, leading the best Offense in College History.. I have seen this kid many times in person and he is as cool off the field as he is on the field. I know I am making a homer pick but we would be in great hands drafting Sam.[/quot

College means jack once his bowl game is over Okie. How many of these over hyped studs make the grade anymore in the NFL. Answer: not too many. Only one current NFL QB that had obtained a lot of college hype has made it real big in the NFL and that is Peyton Manning. Eli won a SB, but won't rise to his brother's level of play. Flacco and Ryan were under the radar so to speak. Ryan did get some hype at BC, but not a whole lot compared to what the "dream 3" are getting now. Plus, Ryan is fading as of late. Not saying Bradford won't make it, but the odds are against him. Think about our sorry post Gibbs I past with QBs. The most successful QB in terms of wins if I am not mistake is my man Gus, and he came from Tulsa(Hey another Okie!!!!) a smaller university with not much fanfare. To me the thing is this. THese overhyped guys are from college football powerhouses totally stacked with talent, which usually totally outgun the competition. Add the fact that the Big 12 isn't known for defense and you can get a Colt Brennan type thing with Hawaii. In the NFL, Sam isn't going to have such an overwhelming advantage. IN DC his line won't be super dominant like the one he enjoys in Norman.

Hey I agree 100% but we have to address this QB situation soon, so y not start this draft?

Lotus · 11-05-2009, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Hey lotus are you at Southern Miss? I used to live in Biloxi so i've been to Hattiesburg a couple times...

Yup. Steve McNair's son signed with us yesterday.

GusFrerotte · 11-05-2009, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Ok man but Adrian Peterson was made of "glass" in college also, well now everyone is on his Jock... I understand he hurt his shoulder but obviously it hasn't hurt his draft stock too much.. And the reason is because he has Manning like attributes on and off the field.

Dude comes from a college football superpower that beats on average teams over every other week. Only Texas, Nebraska, T Tech, and maybe A&M give them any real competition, unless they play non conference superpowers like when Miami beat them.

skinsfaninok · 11-05-2009, 10:03 PM

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Yup. Steve McNair's son signed with us yesterday.

Yea that's what I heard.. Thats good for him, I hope he is as good as his Late father was..

skinsfaninok · 11-05-2009, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Dude comes from a college football superpower that beats on average teams over every other week. Only Texas, Nebraska, T Tech, and maybe A&M give them any real competition, unless they play non conference superpowers like when Miami beat them.

Actually Bradford helped OU beat Miami 2 yrs ago, and he didn't even play in the Miami game this season.

Lotus · 11-05-2009, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Yea that's what I heard.. Thats good for him, I hope he is as good as his Late father was..

I've seen McNair Jr. play for Oak Grove and he is a beast. He has a ton of athletic talent and, for obvious reasons, he's well trained for someone his age.

GusFrerotte · 11-05-2009, 10:10 PM

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Hey I agree 100% but we have to address this QB situation soon, so y not start this draft?

Okie I am with you. We have no choice, absolutely no choice but to draft a QB. My worry is Danny will go for the sexy pick and the guy is another dud ala Schuler. Bradford is a standup kid, and a real talent for sure, but Oklahoma is a superpower totally loaded on all fronts with talent. Playing in a conference not known for defensive play also helps his stats. With that situation Stoops could plug in any blue chip HS QB from TX and the Sooners would be in the BCS hunt every year with that setup. The guys that seem to make it are the guys from smaller, lesser known places that are the ones that make their team special. Big Ben is the best example at Miami, OH. Pike and Lefevour are like that. If Central Mich doesn't have Lefevour, they would vie with my Alma Mater(Eastern Mich) as the crappiest team in the MAC.

GusFrerotte · 11-05-2009, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Actually Bradford helped OU beat Miami 2 yrs ago, and he didn't even play in the Miami game this season.

I know that is why they lost this season. I am just saying they don't get too much real competition outside those 4 teams unless they play like Miami. OU usually plays Chattanoga St or someone like that for non conference games.

backrow · 11-05-2009, 10:36 PM

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Hey I agree 100% but we have to address this QB situation soon, so y not start this draft?

I say we address OL in the 1st or 2nd this coming draft, after a possible trade down to acquire more picks, then take more OL later in the draft. Then later, in the 3rd, 4th, or 5th round, maybe a QB. SB winning QBs do not all come in the 1st round. Warner and Brady snap immediately to mind. The more picks, the better, as long as we don't stick with the WR/TE/WR theme! All of this after we get rid of look-inna-my-eyz vinnie!

44Deezel · 11-05-2009, 10:58 PM

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How can u say he won't be a good pro lol?? It's insane how ppl just say random shit about a player they don't even know or watch.. Sam Bradford is respected by all the pro scouts even though that doesn't guarantee he will be a star, it shows everyone that he is worth taking. You were probably the one that said sanchez would be a bum also

Seriously. We're all a bunch of know-nothing dumbasses. Otherwise, we'd be making a mint running some NFL team. There are going to be a few QBs drafted in the first round next year that go on to become great NFL QBs, maybe even Hall of Famers.

And this just in... injuries heal, especially with dudes in their early 20s. I'd hate to go another 15 years with a cavalcade of shitty QBs only to look back at the 2010 draft saying, "We should have drafted THAT guy." The Skins can get a QB AND fix the O line in the early rounds and grab a RB in the middle to late rounds or via free agency. Presto chango, they can turn this debacle around in 2-3 years. Happens all the time.

CultBrennan59 · 11-05-2009, 11:02 PM

I'm happy with Bradford, because his strength is his accuracy. He knows how to get the ball to his receivers. You know how many times Jason under throws or over throws receivers or just flat out misses wide open receivers? A lot. And by the way, for all the people who think that Bradford will be worse than stafford, Bradford last year had a much higher grading and rating than stafford, it's no question that he would have been a Detroit Lion had he of declared last year. If we don't get Bradford it means will draft an OL in the first round and have either Colt, Woodson, or possible Chase Daniels as our QB next year which I'd be ok with.

44Deezel · 11-05-2009, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

I'm happy with Bradford, because his strength is his accuracy. He knows how to get the ball to his receivers. You know how many times Jason under throws or over throws receivers or just flat out misses wide open receivers? A lot. And by the way, for all the people who think that Bradford will be worse than stafford, Bradford last year had a much higher grading and rating than stafford, it's no question that he would have been a Detroit Lion had he of declared last year. If we don't get Bradford it means will draft an OL in the first round and have either Colt, Woodson, or possible Chase Daniels as our QB next year which I'd be ok with.

I don't expect Bradford or any rookie to come in and play great from the get-go, but if we get a great one, they will eventually help the O line (and receivers for that matter) look good. The same O line that everyone raves about in New England gave up the second most sacks last year. Why? because they had an inferior QB under center. Same thing happened when TC came in a few years back. A QB who makes good, quick decisions and accurate throws keeps Defenses on their heels and takes the pressure off the O linemen. Beleedat!

11-05-2009, 09:58 PM	#31
GusFrerotte Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Detroit area Posts: 3,961	Re: Sam Bradford now leads to Redskins [quote=skinsfaninok;620964]No DC these guys forget about what Bradford has accomplished, leading the best Offense in College History.. I have seen this kid many times in person and he is as cool off the field as he is on the field. I know I am making a homer pick but we would be in great hands drafting Sam.[/quot College means jack once his bowl game is over Okie. How many of these over hyped studs make the grade anymore in the NFL. Answer: not too many. Only one current NFL QB that had obtained a lot of college hype has made it real big in the NFL and that is Peyton Manning. Eli won a SB, but won't rise to his brother's level of play. Flacco and Ryan were under the radar so to speak. Ryan did get some hype at BC, but not a whole lot compared to what the "dream 3" are getting now. Plus, Ryan is fading as of late. Not saying Bradford won't make it, but the odds are against him. Think about our sorry post Gibbs I past with QBs. The most successful QB in terms of wins if I am not mistake is my man Gus, and he came from Tulsa(Hey another Okie!!!!) a smaller university with not much fanfare. To me the thing is this. THese overhyped guys are from college football powerhouses totally stacked with talent, which usually totally outgun the competition. Add the fact that the Big 12 isn't known for defense and you can get a Colt Brennan type thing with Hawaii. In the NFL, Sam isn't going to have such an overwhelming advantage. IN DC his line won't be super dominant like the one he enjoys in Norman.

11-05-2009, 09:58 PM	#32
skinsfaninok Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Norman, OK Age: 26 Posts: 12,996	Re: Sam Bradford now leads to Redskins Hey lotus are you at Southern Miss? I used to live in Biloxi so i've been to Hattiesburg a couple times... __________________ Robert Griffin III "if you're good at something, never do it for free"- The Joker

11-05-2009, 11:02 PM	#44
CultBrennan59 Pro Bowl Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 5,593	Re: Sam Bradford now leads to Redskins I'm happy with Bradford, because his strength is his accuracy. He knows how to get the ball to his receivers. You know how many times Jason under throws or over throws receivers or just flat out misses wide open receivers? A lot. And by the way, for all the people who think that Bradford will be worse than stafford, Bradford last year had a much higher grading and rating than stafford, it's no question that he would have been a Detroit Lion had he of declared last year. If we don't get Bradford it means will draft an OL in the first round and have either Colt, Woodson, or possible Chase Daniels as our QB next year which I'd be ok with.

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