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Old 11-05-2009, 11:52 PM   #46
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Re: Sam Bradford now leads to Redskins

Does Sam Bradford come with Trent Williams?
Kinda like a package deal?
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Old 11-06-2009, 12:23 AM   #47
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Picking up a QB in the first round, who has twice injured his throwing shoulder and did not play in his entire final college season, is probably one of the most laughable things I keep hearing from fans.

Unless there is absofuckinglutely no possibility for the team to pick up a franchise tackle (funny how people forget how well things worked the last time we picked one of those) with our first round pick, then the team should look into other options.

As much as people get a boner when they talk about Parcells and how great of a GM he is, they should take a page from his book. He built his o-line by drafting a franchise tackle (he could have picked up Ryan, Flacco, or Quinn in that draft) and picking up his right tackle in the later rounds (Vernon Carey). He picked up a decent veteran QB (Pennington) and drafted his QB of the future in the 2nd round in 2008 (Henne).
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Old 11-06-2009, 02:09 AM   #48
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While I think specific arguments can be made against all the QB's coming out this year, and should be, anyone saying that the Redskins shouldn't draft a QB on principle because the team has more glaring needs or whatever is out of their mind. This team is headed for a total rebuild on the offensive side and that has to start with QB. Now if you don't believe in the guys available when we pick you can put it off for another year, but getting a franchise qb either this year or next should be the absolute number one priority of this team. After all, no one has won a Superbowl with a free agent QB since 2002, and there's been only two teams since our last win in 91 to capture a championship without a superstar/ hall of fame type player behind center (Ravens and Bucs).

As for Bradford, Gtripp's analysis is basically spot on. Drafting a qb in the top 10 with an injured throwing arm is dicey, and the fact that Adrian Peterson has turned out to be great does not mitigate that risk for me. That being said, when healthy he has more than demonstrated the ability to succeed in a pro-style offense, which is increasingly rare for college qb's these days.
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Old 11-06-2009, 07:59 AM   #49
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While I think specific arguments can be made against all the QB's coming out this year, and should be, anyone saying that the Redskins shouldn't draft a QB on principle because the team has more glaring needs or whatever is out of their mind. This team is headed for a total rebuild on the offensive side and that has to start with QB. Now if you don't believe in the guys available when we pick you can put it off for another year, but getting a franchise qb either this year or next should be the absolute number one priority of this team. After all, no one has won a Superbowl with a free agent QB since 2002, and there's been only two teams since our last win in 91 to capture a championship without a superstar/ hall of fame type player behind center (Ravens and Bucs).

As for Bradford, Gtripp's analysis is basically spot on. Drafting a qb in the top 10 with an injured throwing arm is dicey, and the fact that Adrian Peterson has turned out to be great does not mitigate that risk for me. That being said, when healthy he has more than demonstrated the ability to succeed in a pro-style offense, which is increasingly rare for college qb's these days.
Well said, I can't disagree with anything here.
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Old 11-06-2009, 10:50 AM   #50
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According to your blog and a prior report by ESPN...not a story at least yet:

http://www.thewarpath.net/620354-post285.html (Your next QB for the Skins?)

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Saw on ESPN News earlier in the week a story that the Skins will know better than anyone else if Bradford is able to play and is good healthwise because Dr. James Andrews did his surgery and is our team doc.

I guess they have a point, other teams may be wavering about his durability but we'll know better than them either way, but really, it's not much of a story.

Healthy or not, I don't want us to draft him in the 1st round. We need a line.

I thought we weren't supposed to link to our blogs anymore?
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Old 11-06-2009, 11:36 AM   #51
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Old 11-06-2009, 02:36 PM   #52
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I swear, if the Skins actually keep this pick instead of trading away and building the O-line, I am going to s*** a brick.
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Old 11-06-2009, 03:13 PM   #53
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Can someone tell me what is so good about Bradford? I've only seen him play once, last year in the title game. He looked good. He didn't look like a can't miss and if I remember he was in shotgun the whole time.

Clausen really looks like a pro QB to me..... and I would in no way shape or form even think about McCoy or Tebow.
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Old 11-06-2009, 03:16 PM   #54
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The problem though is that whoever takes him is going to have to make a decision on him, more or less "in the dark" on his physical state.

I mean, every team will have medical reports on him, but no one is going to get to see him throw the football before his personal workout, and those are somewhat valueless anyway because it's not a standardized field like the combine, or at least a pro day.

So it makes him the ultimate high-risk, high-reward prospect. On the pro side, he was really, really good in pretty much perfect conditions two years ago. On the downside, what have you done for me lately? Not a whole lot.

Clausen is much safer because of that, but it's because he's safer that we don't have a chance in hell of getting him. Not that he'd be a good investment with this team anyway.


Why? We're looking at 3-13 IMO. What teams that are worse than us needs a qb. Clev, STL, Oak...if they give up on Russell.
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Old 11-06-2009, 05:19 PM   #55
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We need a quarterback, of that there's no doubt. But first we need a foundation to build on, which is a solid offensive line. As someone pointed out earlier, this is a rebuilding process that will take time. For a rookie QB to develop he will need plenty of time to make his reads. If he is worried about pressure, gets sacked a lot or knocked down that's going to delay his development. Bradford would be injured before the bye week behind this line. There’s no way he could make it. We could be in a very good position if we trade our high first round pick away to get an extra second round pick. Then we could select 3 OL in the first 2 rounds.
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Old 11-06-2009, 05:54 PM   #56
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I would hope that a good qb could be had in the late 1st or 2nd. I agree w/whoever posted about Parcell's moves in Miami. OT is one of the safest picks in the draft & they can last a long time. QB is 50/50.

I'm not saying Colt B. is the man, but I'd been saying for a couple of years that we needed to draft a backup qb. they got Palmer & Colt in back to back years in late rounds. Regardless of how it turns out, those were decent picks IMO.

Let's see if Colt can move up to #2 next year. Then, maybe he'll show his starting material. I'm not saying he will, nor am I saying not to draft a qb, just saying it would be really sweet if our future qb were already on the roster.
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Old 11-07-2009, 09:59 PM   #57
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i thought tony pike was the best qb in the draft apperently i might be wrong it doesn't matter who is in at qb in cincy their program is sick zach colleras has over 300 yds in the first half, but if you don't just look at the big name schools there are even better qb's in my mind look at case keenum at houston he has great numbers this year about the same as mccoy, and we could prob pick him up later in the draft too after a solid ol prospect
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Old 11-08-2009, 01:17 AM   #58
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WAIT WAIT WAIT...ON THE GUY WHO SAID:::::

Jamarcus Russell isn't good......


nah I won't even go there...at the expense of sounding bad...has anyone ever even heard that OAF talk!
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Old 11-08-2009, 08:40 AM   #59
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Was just listening to Mel Kiper on Espn radio. He still has Bradford as the number one QB on his big board. I can't for-see any team drafting him if McCoy or Clausen is still available.
Don't want any of them. Give me the cornerstone of a dominant OL, then whomever plays QB will be that much safer (and better) down the line. Hello people - we won a Super Bowl with Mark Rypien, and made it to a conference championship with Jay Schroeder. That's what great OL play can do. Ordinary QBs can become near Pro Bowl caliber with a great OL that gives them time to operate.
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Don't want any of them. Give me the cornerstone of a dominant OL, then whomever plays QB will be that much safer (and better) down the line. Hello people - we won a Super Bowl with Mark Rypien, and made it to a conference championship with Jay Schroeder. That's what great OL play can do. Ordinary QBs can become near Pro Bowl caliber with a great OL that gives them time to operate.
Campbell was one of the least sacked QBs in the NFL before Samuels went down. Did I miss the part where we were 4-0 and Campbell was throwing for 300 yards and 3 TDs per game?

The Mary Rypien method of winning Super Bowls is the exception, not the norm. I'd rather go with the more proven method... with guys named Manning, Brady, Warner, Favre, Elway and Roethlisberger. Maybe you catch lightning in a bottle once with someone like Dilfer, but with an elite QB you can win multiple SBs and be in the running every year.

And BTW, great QBs have a way of making their O lines look dominant. Cassell was the second most sacked QB in the NFL last year. When Brady's under center, they don't give up sacks. Curious how that happens.
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