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View Poll Results: What Position Should We Draft in the 2010 First Round
Offensive Lineman 159 75.36%
Running Back 2 0.95%
Quarterback 50 23.70%
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:25 AM   #166
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jake locker is also a QB to get some looks 6'3 and 225...just saying...he's like Tebow..except he can throw.
Ya, he's good, but if bradford falls to us, and/or Okung is off the board, then I think we should still take Bradford, now if all the good LT's are off the board, which I doubt, and Bradford's out, then yeah go ahead and get Locker
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:30 AM   #167
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2010 NFL Free Agent Offensive Linemen
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Age as of 9/1/09. All free agents listed here are done so with an optimistic outlook that a new CBA will be agreed upon. Accordingly, only four accrued seasons are necessary to obtain an Unrestricted Free Agency status on this list.

Jahri Evans, New Orleans Saints (26)
Jahri Evans is continuing to grade out as the team’s best run-blocking linemen week after week. The Saints have done a nice job of efficiently running the ball through the middle and on the right side of the line. His continual high level of play and positive, team-first attitude should translate to a high-end offensive guard contract at year’s end. Expect the Saints, who have nothing but positive things to say towards Evans, to richly reward him for his hard work and production.

Logan Mankins, New England Patriots (27)
Logan Mankins has been a very consistent player for the Patriots since he was drafted. That type of consistency is difficult to match, but with free agency inflating the value of offensive guards, the Patriots may end up letting him walk if the price isn’t right. They drafted a couple interior linemen last year and have to use some of their free money to re-sign other players. From what Mankins has said, he wants to stay on this winning franchise, but he could be one of the top players available next offseason.

Marcus McNeill, San Diego Chargers (25)
McNeill isn’t playing at an elite level this year, but is still an above average left tackle. He’s one of the “bigger” names at the left tackle position thanks to his spectacular, hyped rookie season. McNeill has also been undercompensated the last few years playing on his rookie contract as a 2nd round pick, which may incline him to ask for more money than he “deserves.” Any of the Chargers could feasibly be had this offseason and McNeill is no different, but with some of the offensive line woes of the Chargers, McNeill may be one of their top priorities. His long-term neck and back problems could be in the back of the team’s mind as well.

Daryn Colledge, Green Bay Packers (27)
Colledge is no longer viewed as the solution at left tackle in Green Bay. Mid-round TJ Lang has taken over the back-up position there. That alone is enough to make his value take a significant plunge. This will especially be overstated because of his poor performance in the team’s biggest game to date – Monday Night in Minnesota. Still, he’s an above average starting offensive guard and a great pass protector in the interior. Colledge’s value will most likely be highest to the Packers because he’s a great fit for what they do and they know his true value.

Jared Gaither, Baltimore Ravens (23) – Restricted FA
After being taken off the field on a stretcher in New England, Gaither luckily suffered no season or career threatening injury. His return to the field should come in the upcoming weeks. The Ravens have found their bookend tackles, with him and Oher on either side, and even if they can’t settle on a long-term deal with Gaither this offseason, they still have the ability to put a tender on him. At the very least, it would force teams to give up serious compensation for his services. Gaither’s length and athleticism make him an ideal fit at left tackle, but could possibly get him for less coin if they think Oher is capable of playing LT and pay Gaither on the right side.

Winston Justice, Philadelphia Eagles (24)
Justice is finally starting to live up to his expectations as a 2nd round selection. He’s played well in pass protection at right tackle replacing the oft-injured Shawn Andrews. The Eagles are in a tricky situation. Andrews has flashed so much potential and played well when on the field, but has struggled to give them enough snaps without getting injured. Should the team re-sign Justice, they could very well be putting Justice on the bench at the cost of a starter. They already have last year’s free agent acquisition, Stacy Andrews expensively riding the bench.

Kevin Mawae, Tennessee Titans (38)
Mawae has started all six games for the Titans this year, but with his contract expiring, the line may turn to Leroy Harris who will have been groomed for 3 years, sparingly seeing the field. If Mawae is up for another season, he could land on a number of teams, or just re-sign in Tennessee. He still has a little gas left in the tank and it the Titans pass on him, several teams will be lining up for him and accept the leadership he brings to the team.

Chad Clifton, Green Bay Packers (33)
Clifton has suffered a lingering ankle injury this season forcing the Packers to retreat to other options at left tackle. Even when on the field, Clifton hasn’t looked like half the player he was in his prime where he was one of the league’s best pass blockers. The years of injury and battle have worn on Clifton who has lost some of his discipline and been beaten on several occasions. If Clifton isn’t offered another contract in Green Bay, I wouldn’t be surprised to see the franchise’s great blind side protector call it quits.

Mike Gandy, Arizona Cardinals (30)
Gandy has struggled immensely and should definitely be upgraded this offseason. He doesn’t hold much value on the left side and may be asked to move to the right side for the rest of his career. If Arizona can’t find a better replacement, they could potentially try and get one more year out of him, but the Cardinals would be pushing their luck.


So, don't be surprised if we go this route and draft a QB
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Ya, he's good, but if bradford falls to us, and/or Okung is off the board, then I think we should still take Bradford, now if all the good LT's are off the board, which I doubt, and Bradford's out, then yeah go ahead and get Locker
are you new to dc, we draft over hyped receivers and really good players that we think would be better suiteed at a new position, not o linemen
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:34 AM   #169
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are you new to dc, we draft over hyped receivers and really good players that we think would be better suiteed at a new position, not o linemen
haha, well I'm HOPING that we take the draft route that we did back in 1999 with Samuels. But good point none the less. That's also why I put up the Free Agent OLinemen that will be available during the offseason, assuming maybe we go for a QB.
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Old 11-03-2009, 09:21 AM   #170
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are you new to dc, we draft over hyped receivers and really good players that we think would be better suiteed at a new position, not o linemen
For purposes of this discussion, I'd like to assume that Vinny will be gone and that we'll have a real GM by the time we draft.

With that in mind, maybe we will draft a LT in the first round. If so, then it would be nice to pick up QB Jake Locker in the early second round.
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Ya, he's good, but if bradford falls to us, and/or Okung is off the board, then I think we should still take Bradford, now if all the good LT's are off the board, which I doubt, and Bradford's out, then yeah go ahead and get Locker
I still don't understand why ppl want to take a QB with a shoulder injury (twice) and who needed season ending surgery.
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For purposes of this discussion, I'd like to assume that Vinny will be gone and that we'll have a real GM by the time we draft.

With that in mind, maybe we will draft a LT in the first round. If so, then it would be nice to pick up QB Jake Locker in the early second round.
My thinking exactly, and it doesn't even have to be Locker, whom I like for his toughness. Grab the dominant Tackle in the first round, then take care of QB. It infuriates me that Vinny's plan B for O-line depth was a 400 lb guy who was out of football for 3 years. I'm sure Mike Williams is a great guy, and kudos for dropping weight, but we should have had a better plan for our #3 OT.
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I still don't understand why ppl want to take a QB with a shoulder injury (twice) and who needed season ending surgery.
The injury shouldn't be the kiss of death.
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The injury shouldn't be the kiss of death.
Miami probably wishes that they had taken a shot on Drew Brees and his surgically repaired shoulder. Not saying that Bradford is another Brees, but I agree that if Bradford's surgery and rehab are successful, he should be good to go physically.
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I cant believe you put Cutler and Rogers in that list. They are worlds ahead of them. Yes you are right thats why you have to keep taking chances till you get one.
I added all QB's in the past 4 years because I didn't want to try and smoke and mirror my point. My point was that in 4 years only 2 QB's came out of the Draft that were actually worthy of a 1st round pick. Saying 2 might be pushing it because Jay cutler isn't looking so hot right now, but we shall give him the benefit of the doubt.

Looking at the numbers for offensive tackles though through the last several drafts though you will notice that offensive Tackles are a safer 1st round pick. More of them tend to pan out than QB's do.

Now I am not completely against taking a QB in the first round, but to do so, I must have a solid offensive line from Tackle to Tackle. Right now the Skins do not have a solid offensive line, so to put a first round QB behind it regardless of his talent level is a recipe for disaster. You do not want to waste a first round pick on a guy that will not be able to stay healthy because your line sucks.

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I added all QB's in the past 4 years because I didn't want to try and smoke and mirror my point. My point was that in 4 years only 2 QB's came out of the Draft that were actually worthy of a 1st round pick. Saying 2 might be pushing it because Jay cutler isn't looking so hot right now, but we shall give him the benefit of the doubt.

Looking at the numbers for offensive tackles though through the last several drafts though you will notice that offensive Tackles are a safer 1st round pick. More of them tend to pan out than QB's do.

Now I am not completely against taking a QB in the first round, but to do so, I must have a solid offensive line from Tackle to Tackle. Right now the Skins do not have a solid offensive line, so to put a first round QB behind it regardless of his talent level is a recipe for disaster. You do not want to waste a first round pick on a guy that will not be able to stay healthy because your line sucks.

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This is why we should go OT. If we swing and miss on a top-5 QB, it will set the franchise back at least 5 years. We are already one hell of a lot closer to being the Detroit Lions than the Atlanta Falcons. The Falcons have given Matt Ryan an adequate offensive line and an outstanding running game. Detroit threw Stafford to the wolves behind their poor O-line and got him injured after only 5 games.
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Miami probably wishes that they had taken a shot on Drew Brees and his surgically repaired shoulder. Not saying that Bradford is another Brees, but I agree that if Bradford's surgery and rehab are successful, he should be good to go physically.
Exactly.

And since the Redskins own physician performed the surgery, medically we should know exactly what the risk is.
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Exactly.

And since the Redskins own physician performed the surgery, medically we should know exactly what the risk is.
Last night before the game, A. Scheffler made this same point & speculated that since Dr. Andrews would work on Bradford, the skins might be interested in him if he's there when we pick. He & Mort agreed w/out hesitation that the team has a need at QB. Guess there's not much debate in the national media about JC now either?
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Last night before the game, A. Scheffler made this same point & speculated that since Dr. Andrews would work on Bradford, the skins might be interested in him if he's there when we pick. He & Mort agreed w/out hesitation that the team has a need at QB. Guess there's not much debate in the national media about JC now either?
It's been clear for a while now that JC wasn't the QB of choice this year, and with the way things have gone I think it's obvious both sides will move on. Especially with a new coach and (hopefully) new GM in place, a new QB is likely.
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Last night before the game, A. Scheffler made this same point & speculated that since Dr. Andrews would work on Bradford, the skins might be interested in him if he's there when we pick. He & Mort agreed w/out hesitation that the team has a need at QB. Guess there's not much debate in the national media about JC now either?
I think Campbell is damaged goods psychologically at this point. Analysts such as Jaws and Theismann have shown instances where Campbell checked down when there were plays available downfield - the guy is gun shy at this point. He will probably make a decent backup for somebody, but little more than that.

If we do draft Bradford, I want a long term coach in place, not a Holmgren who will walk away after 4 years the way Gibbs did. I envy the Eagles with Reid and McNabb being joined at the hip from day one. I want the next coach to be here for 10+ years, so I would prefer to look at someone in their early 40's to stabilize this franchise.
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