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Old 11-29-2009, 12:51 AM   #16
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I want no part of Gerhart in the 1st round. OL is a far higher priority than any other position. How does he project as a pro? It's a weak RB draft class, so he'll get taken pretty high considering. I just wonder how he'll be in the NFL. He's upright and very tall for a RB, (6-1) and pretty heavy (235). I think he's this year's Lendale White.
Man, it would be pretty hard to pass up on Gerhart. I could see him falling in the early second though. Unless you're an Adrian Peterson, which he isn't, it makes no sense to take a running back in the first round nowadays. Still, I think Gerhart has some things Lendale doesn't. He's a bruiser, has better vision than Lendale, and he strikes me as someone with a serious work eithic.
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I want no part of Gerhart in the 1st round. OL is a far higher priority than any other position. How does he project as a pro? It's a weak RB draft class, so he'll get taken pretty high considering. I just wonder how he'll be in the NFL. He's upright and very tall for a RB, (6-1) and pretty heavy (235). I think he's this year's Lendale White.
I think he projected as a FB.

I would rate Gerhart after Best, Spiller, Dwyer, McKnight, Dixon, Royster, and maybe Armando Allen Jr. Where do you have him?
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Old 11-29-2009, 01:04 AM   #18
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I think he projected as a FB.

I would rate Gerhart after Best, Spiller, Dwyer, McKnight, Dixon, Royster, and maybe Armando Allen Jr. Where do you have him?
You serious? You have all those guys ahead of TG?
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They've got some pretty good players listed for the 5th round. I'd be really surprised to see some of those guys there. If Gerhart is there in the 5th it's a no-brainer.
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Playing devils advocate....What makes Harbaugh such a great candidate for the NFL ranks? Is he running a pro style of offense now? What coaching tree does he hail from?

I just can't see DS throwing his trust in a college coach that has not proven himself in the NFL again. I think Spurrier burned that bridge for him.
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Old 11-29-2009, 02:33 AM   #21
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I tell you what. This guy s a bruiser who will take the rock 30 times a game, and that is what we are missing.

If TG drops to 3rd round, I say you take him then but we need OL bad and taking anything but OL in the 1st-2nd round is a mistake.
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Playing devils advocate....What makes Harbaugh such a great candidate for the NFL ranks? Is he running a pro style of offense now? What coaching tree does he hail from?

I just can't see DS throwing his trust in a college coach that has not proven himself in the NFL again. I think Spurrier burned that bridge for him.

I wouldn't say Spurrier burned the bridge, instead he just doused it with gasoline. Saban and Petrino lit the match.

I'm starting to believe that you're either one or the other no matter what the sport. For example we've seen NFL guys go to college coaching jobs and fail miserably as well as college coaches trying to make it in the professional ranks. Basketball also seems to follow a very similar trend. In the end the two games are very different despite being the same.

Also, for the past month or two I was warming up to the idea of selecting Clausen but my concerns about him being a character risk seem to be valid. Not only was he arrested his freshmen year for trying to buy alcohol underage, but now it's revealed that he got a black eye in a bar fight after seemingly pushing a heckler. Not saying that the fan didn't deserve it if not more, but this isn't hockey. In the NFL a stunt like that could easily result in a four game suspension.

At the very least he's guilty of being in the wrong place at the wrong time, and on that note he doesn't seem to be mature enough to be anointed as the savior of an NFL franchise, nevermind the Redskins which is surprising given the fact that his two brothers at least have some experience at the NFL level. Plus even though he's talented I wouldn't say I've seen anything to suggest that he's going to be Peyton Manning.
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Toby Gerhart is a physcal runner but not sure about his 40 time. He appears to have good hands and quick feet for a big back kinda like Stephen Davis. Combine will have alot to do where he goes in the draft but we can not afford to take a RB in the 1st or 2nd round. We have bigger needs at the O-Line postion and Linebacker spot to replace London or Orakpo to move him to DE spot. Orkpo is a libility in pass coverage.
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Old 11-29-2009, 10:55 AM   #24
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Jim Harbaugh has been building his resume up for several years now. He's not a flash in the pan, for those who might think he is. Still, all I've heard is he'd like to maybe try the NFL one day but first he's most likely to go to a big time college program. But you never know I guess what will happen
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Jim Harbaugh has been building his resume up for several years now. He's not a flash in the pan, for those who might think he is. Still, all I've heard is he'd like to maybe try the NFL one day but first he's most likely to go to a big time college program. But you never know I guess what will happen
He did interview for the Jets job last year.
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He did interview for the Jets job last year.
Yeah I mean he says he's re-signing with Stanford but as far as I know it hasn't happened yet. But as for the NFL, if say Holmgren takes over in Seattle I can see him canning Mora Jr. and going after Harbaugh
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You serious? You have all those guys ahead of TG?
It was a poor thought joke. The only ones i would put above Gerhart are Best, Spiller, McKnight, and maybe McCluster from ole miss.
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Playing devils advocate....What makes Harbaugh such a great candidate for the NFL ranks? Is he running a pro style of offense now? What coaching tree does he hail from?

I just can't see DS throwing his trust in a college coach that has not proven himself in the NFL again. I think Spurrier burned that bridge for him.
Let's see, he played as QB in the NFL for many years (captain comeback) his father was a coach at Western Kentucky (I think he learned something from his old man) broher is a pretty good coach with the Ravens. Oh yeah, he has beaten 2 top 10 ranked teams one at their home. Trust me I've watched this guy, he's smart, enthusiastic and doesn't take any crap. I think someone in the NFL will take a chance on him and believe me, whoever it is will be very happy. By the way, he's no Spurrier (most over rated college coach ever)
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I think he projected as a FB.

I would rate Gerhart after Best, Spiller, Dwyer, McKnight, Dixon, Royster, and maybe Armando Allen Jr. Where do you have him?
Well, I don't "have him" anywhere because I don't really compile my own pre-draft position rankings. However I would agree with your list. I'd rather have any of the guys you mentioned over Gerhart. I'm not sold on him at all.
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Well, I don't "have him" anywhere because I don't really compile my own pre-draft position rankings. However I would agree with your list. I'd rather have any of the guys you mentioned over Gerhart. I'm not sold on him at all.
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