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Old 12-02-2009, 11:26 PM   #61
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You are absolutely correct that busts can come from any scheme. I was hardly arguing that Clausen was a lock.

But, since he has been practicing pro style techniques for 4 years, it stands to reason in that he might fit in more quickly with the pros.
Notre Dame did a lot of west coast stuff when Clausen first got there, but he played this season nearly exclusively in the shotgun, with three or four wide receivers on the field and no fullback.

I think Stoops and Weis both play that "adjusted" pro-style offense. The fundamentals of what they both preach are rooted in the professional style of football, with five and seven step drops and such, but when you're trying to win college football games, I think what they believe in takes a back seat to what wins college football games, which is a lot of spread concepts and shotgun work.

Of course, with the NFL trending in this direction naturally, I think it's going to open a lot of opportunities for the players who play primarily out of the shotgun. At least, I can only hope.

I think scouts would rather avoid the spread because their evaluations are made a whole lot more difficult by it, but if more than half the draft-eligible quarterbacks play in that system, someone will eventually man up and develop a translation system.
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Old 12-03-2009, 09:23 AM   #62
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kiper has clausen #1 on his big board now according to espn.
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I look at Clausen and I see a very good pro prospect. Still, there is one thing about him that I can't get out of my mind: he didn't win enough games at ND. To me, a franchise QB needs to win games for his team. Sometimes he even needs to drive his team to implausible wins. Clausen is a great passer but I question his ability to lead an NFL team.

Admittedly, I'm on the fence about Clausen. Am I wrong to discount his obvious skills because his team hasn't won more games with him at QB?
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Hard to fault Clausen for the performance of the D at Notre Dame, which ultimately has been their Achilles' heel.
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Old 12-03-2009, 09:53 AM   #65
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Hard to fault Clausen for the performance of the D at Notre Dame, which ultimately has been their Achilles' heel.
I've seen their offense fail to mount late drives to win, as well.
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I look at Clausen and I see a very good pro prospect. Still, there is one thing about him that I can't get out of my mind: he didn't win enough games at ND. To me, a franchise QB needs to win games for his team. Sometimes he even needs to drive his team to implausible wins. Clausen is a great passer but I question his ability to lead an NFL team.

Admittedly, I'm on the fence about Clausen. Am I wrong to discount his obvious skills because his team hasn't won more games with him at QB?
campbell went undefeated in 04 with auburn
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Old 12-04-2009, 12:26 PM   #68
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Okung in the 1st Round
McCoy in the 2nd Round

I'm reall bullish on Colt McCoy! (I was real bullish on Rey Maualuga last year...he dropped to the 2nd round...analysts credit his play/demeanor for leading the Bengals defensive success). McCoy is a leader, hard worker, accurate passer, and can get on his wheels when in trouble. Just what we need.
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TONY PIKE the most accurate paser coming out of college this year mark my words
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you live in big 12 country, you know how dominant suh is. imagine he and haynesworth paired up in the middle. thats would just be incredible.
I watched Texas and Nebraska play tonight and Suh...is INCREDIBLE! I wished I hadn't of watched because we need o-line, but now visions fill my head of him and AH playing side by side. With those 2 in the middle and Orakpo and Jarmon on the ends...OMG. That dude is DOMINANT!
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I watched Texas and Nebraska play tonight and Suh...is INCREDIBLE! I wished I hadn't of watched because we need o-line, but now visions fill my head of him and AH playing side by side. With those 2 in the middle and Orakpo and Jarmon on the ends...OMG. That dude is DOMINANT!
Yes! my point exactly. we need o-line, very true, but suh is absolutely inhuman. he and big al in the middle would be absolutely impenetrable. hes still the player i want in the first round.
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TONY PIKE the most accurate paser coming out of college this year mark my words
he was pretty terrible most of the day today. turned it around late but he was 11/30 at one point. hes a good player, im just not sold on a lot of spread qbs until they prove its not just the system. he doesnt seem to have a lot of zip on the ball
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Yeah, Suh was a beast tonight. I can't see anyone not taking him with the number one pick. I thought Clausen was a lock, but after tonight I'm switching to Suh.
Well it's rare that a DT is taken with the #1 pick but this guy is unbelievable. He's one of the best I've seen...ever.
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suh probably wont be number one overall, but imo hes the best player going into the draft. he is simply unblockable. if he is there when we pick, we HAVE to take him.
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he was pretty terrible most of the day today. turned it around late but he was 11/30 at one point. hes a good player, im just not sold on a lot of spread qbs until they prove its not just the system. he doesnt seem to have a lot of zip on the ball
one of my buddies text me in the middle of the second quarter and asked me if i still wanted pike. he was 11/30 at one point, but he ended the game 22/44 with 3 tds and 3 int's and a WIN not to mention it was raining/sleeting/snowing through out the game, he has size vision and arm strength he will be a winner in the nfl
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