Sam Bradford remains projected pick to Redskins

GTripp0012 · 12-31-2009, 05:19 PM

The whole allure to Bradford for me was that, hey, if we're picking between 7 and 12 in the draft, and Clausen is the first QB off the board, we might be able to land Bradford because of an injury, where the injury might be causing him to be undervalued. We could keep Campbell for a year, and turn the keys over to Bradford in 2011.

If we're picking in the top five (and only if we win can this not be the case, and we can only win if the Chargers rest their starters...and even then), whoever you would take at QB is going to play right away. And frankly, I don't think anyone wants to have anyone in this draft class at the top of their depth chart come August.

SKINS73 · 12-31-2009, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

But let's suppose Bruce Allen came out and said "Jason Campbell is not the long-term answer for us" Would you rather they just let him go now and start fresh with someone else asap or let him hang around for another year even though he's not in the long term plans.

Hopefully Bruce Allen doesn't come out and say that because that would be a Vinny move and undermine the little confidence JC has now. I'm not even a JC fan, I'm trying to look at things pragmatically. We, as fans, get intoxicated when we see a rookie QB turn into a stud. Teams with successful rookie QBs already have a line and even an average RB to boot. Since LT broke Joe's leg the QB position has always been an issue for Washington. In the Super Bowls we won our trademark was an over-powering offensive line, not a star QB. Bring it back to smashmouth run-first-no-matter-how-many-people-you-have-in-the-box-cause-you-can't-stop-us-if-you-tried football. That is Redskin football. Run the I with Spiller and put Davis in front of him with Cooley on the line, DT and Moss on the outside. I know some of you will laugh at my wishful thinking! Whatever the Redskins decide to do I will support; however, could you be happy seeing Bradford drafted when Okung is on the board? Bradford drafted when Spiller is available, or Bradford drafted when Berry is out there?

Dirtbag59 · 12-31-2009, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SKINS73

Hopefully Bruce Allen doesn't come out and say that because that would be a Vinny move and undermine the little confidence JC has now. I'm not even a JC fan, I'm trying to look at things pragmatically. We, as fans, get intoxicated when we see a rookie QB turn into a stud. Teams with successful rookie QBs already have a line and even an average RB to boot. Since LT broke Joe's leg the QB position has always been an issue for Washington. In the Super Bowls we won our trademark was an over-powering offensive line, not a star QB. Bring it back to smashmouth run-first-no-matter-how-many-people-you-have-in-the-box-cause-you-can't-stop-us-if-you-tried football. That is Redskin football. Run the I with Spiller and put Davis in front of him with Cooley on the line, DT and Moss on the outside. I know some of you will laugh at my wishful thinking! Whatever the Redskins decide to do I will support; however, could you be happy seeing Bradford drafted when Okung is on the board? Bradford drafted when Spiller is available, or Bradford drafted when Berry is out there?

If I remember right the Falcons O-Line gave up over 50 sacks the year before Ryan was drafted, and even though they drafted Sam Baker in the first round he was limited to 5 starts and 8 gp. They basically took that same line that gave up a large amount of sacks and with proper coaching got it to near the top of the league in terms of sacks allowed. Now I'm definitely not saying that we go into next year with the same O-Line, far from it in fact. Maybe the Falcons are the exception to the rule, maybe they had talent but the coaching was horrible. The point is we will probably have a revamped O-Line next year, and we don't need to spend a first round pick to do it. By the same token we would need to make sure that one of our 1st two picks is an O-Lineman, that much I'm sure of.

SKINS73 · 12-31-2009, 05:26 PM

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Berry? Whom do you speak?

Eric Berry, from Tennesse. He set the NCAA record for interception return yards, is a ball-hawk and a vicious hitter. Basically everything we DON'T have right now in our secondary.

Dirtbag59 · 12-31-2009, 05:28 PM

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Eric Berry, from Tennesse. He set the NCAA record for interception return yards, is a ball-hawk and a vicious hitter. Basically everything we DON'T have right now in our secondary.

Basically the next Troy Polamalu or Ed Reed. Either way he's expected to get to that top tier by 2013. Could easily be the highest safety selected in the history of the league, he's that highly regarded.

Mel Kiper:
Analysis: Ultimate playmaker, in the Ed Reed mold.

SmootSmack · 12-31-2009, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SKINS73

Hopefully Bruce Allen doesn't come out and say that because that would be a Vinny move and undermine the little confidence JC has now. I'm not even a JC fan, I'm trying to look at things pragmatically. We, as fans, get intoxicated when we see a rookie QB turn into a stud. Teams with successful rookie QBs already have a line and even an average RB to boot. Since LT broke Joe's leg the QB position has always been an issue for Washington. In the Super Bowls we won our trademark was an over-powering offensive line, not a star QB. Bring it back to smashmouth run-first-no-matter-how-many-people-you-have-in-the-box-cause-you-can't-stop-us-if-you-tried football. That is Redskin football. Run the I with Spiller and put Davis in front of him with Cooley on the line, DT and Moss on the outside. I know some of you will laugh at my wishful thinking! Whatever the Redskins decide to do I will support; however, could you be happy seeing Bradford drafted when Okung is on the board? Bradford drafted when Spiller is available, or Bradford drafted when Berry is out there?

-Suppose he only told you

-It's possible to select your QB and LT of the future in the same draft. Long and Henne, Baker and Ryan

-I think I've said a few times that Okung should be the first choice. Not sure Spiller should be taken that high. He's tempting though. I think Berry will be gone and even if he's not I'd rather develop the safeties we have (maybe take Nate Allen later in the draft)

SKINS73 · 12-31-2009, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

-Suppose he only told you

-It's possible to select your QB and LT of the future in the same draft. Long and Henne, Baker and Ryan

-I think I've said a few times that Okung should be the first choice. Not sure Spiller should be taken that high. He's tempting though. I think Berry will be gone and even if he's not I'd rather develop the safeties we have (maybe take Nate Allen later in the draft)

If BA doesn't tell JC that we're sticking with him 100% I think JC will just sign somewhere else. There are probably several teams that would give him a multi-year deal and better security than Washington if he's not assured of a shot at being number 1. If we draft a rookie QB in round 1 or 2 Campbell will leave before the season. I know I wouldn't stick around to groom my replacement while getting hit after every pass.

We could draft a QB and LT in the same draft, I just think we shouldn't spend an early round pick on a QB.

Berry is a game changer. Everything in me says to draft the next best lineman (Williams) or Spiller, but it would be hard for anyone to pass Berry up. If I have to watch Landry in coverage for any longer I am going to go insane yelling at my TV.

SBXVII · 12-31-2009, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

The Andrews' news has been talked about here before. And if there's one thing we learned so far through this whole Shanahan search is that he likes everything "very interested in the Bills job" "very interested in the Bears job" "Very interested in the Gators job" etc. Not to say that he doesn't like Bradford, and it does make a lot of sense. Just saying let's not read too much into it right now

The rumors came out about Shanahan being interested in the Bills, Dallas, and Bears job but recently Schefter, who is close friends with Shanahan has said Shanahan won't be going to the Bills, then he said he wont be going to Dallas and most recently said he won't be going to the Bears.

I think the whole interest thing is to keep the media off his back about the Skins job which was probably already agreed upon prior to him talking to the Bills.

Who did DS and Vinny go see in the college ranks? Which QB's? I gaurentee Shanahan said those are who he likes, so they went out to see them.

53Fan · 12-31-2009, 05:53 PM

Allen may be surprised how much better JC plays with an improved o-line. I know we can pick-up some FA's, but who's out there?, we are NOT one good lineman away from having a good o-line. We have 1 pick in the 2nd and no 3rd pick. So do we draft one in the 2nd and wait and get some more in the 4th if we use our 1rst for a QB? We can draft a QB in 2011, if there is no draft, Snyder can damn sure afford to outbid for one coming out. If John Elway or Peyton Manning were coming out it would be one thing, but I don't think anyone is comparing Clausen or Bradford to those 2. Don't forget, Locker comes out next year and I'm sure there will be others to get excited about. It was Sanchez last year. Let's face it, this line could use more than a 2nd and a 4th pick.

SBXVII · 12-31-2009, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

The whole allure to Bradford for me was that, hey, if we're picking between 7 and 12 in the draft, and Clausen is the first QB off the board, we might be able to land Bradford because of an injury, where the injury might be causing him to be undervalued. We could keep Campbell for a year, and turn the keys over to Bradford in 2011.

If we're picking in the top five (and only if we win can this not be the case, and we can only win if the Chargers rest their starters...and even then), whoever you would take at QB is going to play right away. And frankly, I don't think anyone wants to have anyone in this draft class at the top of their depth chart come August.

Or.... get this..... or.... give the keys to Colt. Boom. LOL. Then hand the keys over to Bradford.

Any chance at all Chase will be available again?

Dirtbag59 · 12-31-2009, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

The rumors came out about Shanahan being interested in the Bills, Dallas, and Bears job but recently Schefter, who is close friends with Shanahan has said Shanahan won't be going to the Bills, then he said he wont be going to Dallas and most recently said he won't be going to the Bears.

I think the whole interest thing is to keep the media off his back about the Skins job which was probably already agreed upon prior to him talking to the Bills.

Who did DS and Vinny go see in the college ranks? Which QB's? I gaurentee Shanahan said those are who he likes, so they went out to see them.

Mort has also been putting his reputation on the line saying that Shannahan is virtually guaranteed to be the next head coach of the Redskins. Keep in mind Mort also called the Redskins trade with the Bronco's in 2005 to get Campbell.

SmootSmack · 12-31-2009, 06:00 PM

And my Shanahan source is better than Schefty (no disrespect)...and that source also says Shanny is coming here...but I'm still going to wait until it's official

PennSkinsFan · 01-05-2010, 01:00 PM

Sam Bradford leading pick for Redskins | DC Pro Sports Report

Mock Drafts munched between 1-4 and 1/5, 29 of them, still project Bradford to the Redskins.

SmootSmack · 01-05-2010, 01:58 PM

Incidentally Bradford is reportedly close to signing with Bus Cook (if he hasn't already). Cook is Cutler's agent as well so he already has a history with Shanahan.

skinsfan69 · 01-05-2010, 02:04 PM

Where do all these rumors come from? How does anyone know that we even want Bradford? We're going to have new coaches, new people in the FO....to me this is all a bunch of BS. On top of that Bradford is going to get hit once upside the head by Trent Cole and DeMarcus Ware and he'll be hurt. I like the kid but I question his ability to stay healthy.

12-31-2009, 05:19 PM	#91
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Age: 25 Posts: 15,143	Re: Sam Bradford remains projected pick to Redskins The whole allure to Bradford for me was that, hey, if we're picking between 7 and 12 in the draft, and Clausen is the first QB off the board, we might be able to land Bradford because of an injury, where the injury might be causing him to be undervalued. We could keep Campbell for a year, and turn the keys over to Bradford in 2011. If we're picking in the top five (and only if we win can this not be the case, and we can only win if the Chargers rest their starters...and even then), whoever you would take at QB is going to play right away. And frankly, I don't think anyone wants to have anyone in this draft class at the top of their depth chart come August. __________________ Shanahan: “The bad thing is he's [Sav Rocca] probably our best offensive weapon and that’s not good.”

12-31-2009, 05:53 PM	#99
53Fan Pro Bowl Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kill Devil Hills, N.C. Posts: 7,354	Re: Sam Bradford remains projected pick to Redskins Allen may be surprised how much better JC plays with an improved o-line. I know we can pick-up some FA's, but who's out there?, we are NOT one good lineman away from having a good o-line. We have 1 pick in the 2nd and no 3rd pick. So do we draft one in the 2nd and wait and get some more in the 4th if we use our 1rst for a QB? We can draft a QB in 2011, if there is no draft, Snyder can damn sure afford to outbid for one coming out. If John Elway or Peyton Manning were coming out it would be one thing, but I don't think anyone is comparing Clausen or Bradford to those 2. Don't forget, Locker comes out next year and I'm sure there will be others to get excited about. It was Sanchez last year. Let's face it, this line could use more than a 2nd and a 4th pick. __________________ "Cautiously And Optimistically... Looking Forward To Change"

12-31-2009, 06:00 PM	#102
SmootSmack Mad Men Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,097	Re: Sam Bradford remains projected pick to Redskins And my Shanahan source is better than Schefty (no disrespect)...and that source also says Shanny is coming here...but I'm still going to wait until it's official __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

01-05-2010, 01:00 PM	#103
PennSkinsFan Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 42 Posts: 752	Re: Sam Bradford remains projected pick to Redskins Sam Bradford leading pick for Redskins \| DC Pro Sports Report Mock Drafts munched between 1-4 and 1/5, 29 of them, still project Bradford to the Redskins. __________________ DC Pro Sports Report - Home of the Internet's Largest NFL Mock Draft Database. Best Redskins Redskins discussion, theWarpath.net

01-05-2010, 01:58 PM	#104
SmootSmack Mad Men Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,097	Re: Sam Bradford remains projected pick to Redskins Incidentally Bradford is reportedly close to signing with Bus Cook (if he hasn't already). Cook is Cutler's agent as well so he already has a history with Shanahan. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

01-05-2010, 02:04 PM	#105
skinsfan69 Franchise Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA. Posts: 8,103	Re: Sam Bradford remains projected pick to Redskins Where do all these rumors come from? How does anyone know that we even want Bradford? We're going to have new coaches, new people in the FO....to me this is all a bunch of BS. On top of that Bradford is going to get hit once upside the head by Trent Cole and DeMarcus Ware and he'll be hurt. I like the kid but I question his ability to stay healthy.

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