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Old 01-14-2010, 12:33 PM   #31
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Jason Fox - OT -....The U
Overall Grade: 59

Run Blocking - Has enough range to effectively pull and flashes the ability to cut off linebackers at the second level. Works to sustain once locked on but doesn't get much push. While he is agile enough to be an effective zone blocker he takes too many false steps and will have a difficult time hooking 5-techniques and scooping 3-techniques at the NFL level unless footwork improves.

Edward Wang - OT - Virginia Tech
Overall Grade - 65

Run Blocking - Athletic enough to hook 7-techniques and scoop 3-techniques when footwork is sound, but the amount of false steps he takes is a concern at this point. Doesn't appear to have the necessary lower-body strength to drive five-techniques off the ball. On the flip side, he gets into position quickly and flashes the ability to sustain blocks once locked on. Shows above-average body control and flashes the ability to get into position at the second level.
Ed Wang is a pretty agile guy - was a TE until a couple years ago. He made major progress at VT & might be able to develop a lot more & become a solid nfl tackle. He's known to get flagged a lot in pass pro, not sure why. Couldn't disguise a hold very well I guess.
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Old 01-14-2010, 02:18 PM   #32
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Just read the Kiper ESPN insider article about guys who shouldn't be coming out. Noel Devine is on the list (but he says he's on the fence about him). Here's some of it:

"Thaddeus Gibson, DE, Ohio State Buckeyes: An interesting guy. I see Gibson as more of a stand-up outside linebacker in a 3-4 defense, and there are a lot of them in this draft class. He had his hand on the ground a lot, so it'll be an adjustment, but his size (6-foot-2, 240) fits. Another guy that I think could use another year, but I still see him as a player with second-round potential in April.

Dominique Franks, DB, Oklahoma Sooners: He didn't have an outstanding year. I thought he showed outstanding ball skills as a sophomore, which he still has, but another player (like Snead) that had too many highs and lows in 2009. He has return ability and should work out well, but he needs to improve in areas besides his ball skills. I have him with a second- to third-round grade right now if his workouts go well.

Jason Worilds, DE, Virginia Tech Hokies: Another player I thought was better as a sophomore. He had eight sacks in 2008 and dropped to just four this year. The issue this year: He appeared very blockable, which is not what you want to see out of a defensive end. Pluses are that he's one of the strongest pound-for-pound players in the draft and will test well. Has solid natural instincts as well. I see him in the third or fourth, but a good senior year could have really helped.

Noel Devine, RB, West Virginia Mountaineers: As of this writing, Devine is still on the fence. I think he should go, because he has proved to be durable despite his small size (5-8, 176) and I think because we have such a good feel for what he is, another year won't help his stock as much as it'll expose him to risk. He just doesn't help himself by coming back in my mind (graduation-versus-football earning power discussions aside). He has great change of pace and incredible cutback skills, and his pure speed is an attention-getter. You don't catch him from behind. As a third back and potential return man, he could be dangerous. I have him as a potential third-rounder in April.

Joe McKnight, RB, USC: He's explosive and really gifted; he has been since he was in high school. This year he went from being a great pure runner to showing he can attack the hole and showing some burst through the hole. There was a physical component to his game he put forth this year that had been lacking before. His issue will be durability/health concerns. Running backs are going to drop this year, I think, because most teams are pretty loaded up. There's a surplus right now. I see McKnight as a potential second-rounder; you just hope for him that his fluid speed transfers well in testing.

Bryan Bulaga, OL, Iowa Hawkeyes: He had a great game in the Orange Bowl against Georgia Tech, so he's leaving on a high note. He could land in the first round; he's very talented. He has good feet and moves well, but his best asset is his leverage. You really have to mix it up to beat him, because he always has leverage. He had a few rough spots, but he's a junior and his talent will overcome those lapses on tape."

Usually these guys are the ones who fall to the later rounds. His main point (which i didn't feel like posting) was about Jevan Snead. He said he needed to stay an extra year to improve his draft stock. Could be a good sleeper in the late rounds...

I would be excited if we could get Noel Devine in the late rounds. I'm not so sure he won't be picked before the 3rd though and we don't have a 3rd. We need a guy that can break some, a gamechanger.
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Old 01-14-2010, 09:40 PM   #33
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Dan Lefevour? 3rd or 4th rounder I guess, but I like him as much as any of the 1st round QBs.
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Well just so you do know, it's this guy. Remember this face, this is the face of our next franchise QB

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I would love to see the Skins' draft Cody Grimm & snag Blount in the late rounds ... I'm already pumped for 10' ..


Sidenote : I was at that packers vs cardinals game last week and that by far was one of the most insane football moments of my life .. I love the Skins', been a fan since birth and grew up in the DC area but the Cardinals are quite a team to follow, truly explosive and Beanie Wells is something special ..

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C - Eric Olsen, 6' 4", 305. 5.26 (low 5.12), Notre Dame
Will be in Senior Bowl. 1 sack in 450 Pass Att, 50 NCAA starts.
Projected 5th rd

C- Jim Cordle, 6' 4", 298. 5.12, Ohio State
Can play all OL positions. Projected 7th-FA


We should draft BOTH of these guys late.
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Old 01-15-2010, 01:17 PM   #37
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I would love to see the Skins' draft Cody Grimm & snag Blount in the late rounds ... I'm already pumped for 10' ..


Sidenote : I was at that packers vs cardinals game last week and that by far was one of the most insane football moments of my life .. I love the Skins', been a fan since birth and grew up in the DC area but the Cardinals are quite a team to follow, truly explosive and Beanie Wells is something special ..

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I would be really surprised if anyone drafts Cody Grimm. He will have to shock some people at the combine.
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Old 01-15-2010, 11:44 PM   #38
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Old 01-15-2010, 11:45 PM   #39
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McCluster -i think thats his name
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I don't think he's a Shanahan type back
There's only one requirement to be a Shannahan running back and thats vision. Everything else is secondary. If I remember right Terrell Davis ran a 4.6 or 4.7 in the 40. Thats why Peyton Hillis, who seems similar to Gerhart in more then just skin color was on track to be the next big find for Denver, unfortunately for him McDaniels came in and the Bronco's have since gradually shifted to a more conventional running game.

However back to the original point, if you look at Shannahan's choices at running back you'll be hard pressed to find a similar build or skillset among all the guys Shannahan chose to give the rock. Basically if you can find the hole you'll be successful in this offense.
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Old 01-16-2010, 01:37 AM   #41
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I like Gerhart but with more pressing needs i doubt it happens.
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There's only one requirement to be a Shannahan running back and thats vision. Everything else is secondary. If I remember right Terrell Davis ran a 4.6 or 4.7 in the 40. Thats why Peyton Hillis, who seems similar to Gerhart in more then just skin color was on track to be the next big find for Denver, unfortunately for him McDaniels came in and the Bronco's have since gradually shifted to a more conventional running game.

However back to the original point, if you look at Shannahan's choices at running back you'll be hard pressed to find a similar build or skillset among all the guys Shannahan chose to give the rock. Basically if you can find the hole you'll be successful in this offense.
Well, if that is true then I would like to throw out Damion Fletcher, running back from Southern Mississippi. He lacks great size or great speed but he does have terrific vision and instincts.
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I really like to land ciron black LSU in the 4th round but he might not be thear
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I really like to land ciron black LSU in the 4th round but he might not be thear
Ciron Black is to heavy and flat footed for this offense. The team is more then likely going to draft guys no heavier then 305 pounds.
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As long as we get this guy we'll be fine:



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