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Old 01-23-2010, 06:11 PM   #46
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So I ask you, who are some late round guys that you know that we should check out? All positions

Another guy I would like to see us get is LaMarcus Coker. He has ran a 4.28 40 and excelled against top competition when he was at Tennesseee. After he left Tennessee he went to Hampton and has continued to shine. His issues are well documented but he has the talent to excell in special teams and has IMO- Chris Johnson/ Devin Hester type talent. Only comes around every few years. Between the 2 players I'd pick LaMarcus handsdown.
I agree about Coker, but once he runs 4.3 at the combine, pot smoker or not, his draft stock is going to climb and i don't think he'll remain a late round prospect.

A QB to look for if we don't land one in before the 4th round:

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Old 01-24-2010, 04:13 AM   #47
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do people really think skelton is a better prospect than a tim tebow? or a bradford? time will tell I guess, but at first glance i'd say no...
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do people really think skelton is a better prospect than a tim tebow? or a bradford? time will tell I guess, but at first glance i'd say no...
What? Tebow a better prospect? Tebow will not last long if at all in the NFL. He was a system QB at Florida & the RB's didn't get the recognition they deserved. Without the Brandon James, Will Demps & Percy Harvin's playmaking speed and homerun ability Tebow was really not that good. It's not college football anymore all that running he was doing will cease at the next level.
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What? Tebow a better prospect? Tebow will not last long if at all in the NFL. He was a system QB at Florida & the RB's didn't get the recognition they deserved. Without the Brandon James, Will Demps & Percy Harvin's playmaking speed and homerun ability Tebow was really not that good. It's not college football anymore all that running he was doing will cease at the next level.
Wouldn't Sam Bradford fall into the category of a system QB?
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Wouldn't Sam Bradford fall into the category of a system QB?
Yeah he would too but he & every other QB has more upside than Tebow IMO.
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How did the skelton kids look in the shrine bowl? I didn't watch the whole game. And there is no way that the Skelton kid from fordham is better than Sam Bradford Or Clausen...Clausen is the best QB in this draft. I wouldn't have him ranked higher than Tebow either for that matter...this is just from what i've read on walterfootball.com
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People love to hate on Tebow...but he's a winner.

Can't you say the same thing abour bradford and clausen...oh bradford wouldn't be as good if he didn't have jermaine greshaim...or clausen wouldn't be so good without golden tate...it's just kind of a silly argument...there are playmakers all over the field at that level of college and of course in the PRO's. It's have a person to motivate that talent to be "talented" is what you need...and that's why I personallly feel Tebow has a chance.
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People love to hate on Tebow...but he's a winner.

Can't you say the same thing abour bradford and clausen...oh bradford wouldn't be as good if he didn't have jermaine greshaim...or clausen wouldn't be so good without golden tate...it's just kind of a silly argument...there are playmakers all over the field at that level of college and of course in the PRO's. It's have a person to motivate that talent to be "talented" is what you need...and that's why I personallly feel Tebow has a chance.
Have you seen his mechanics? With his throwing motion at the next level he would get picked 65% of the time. That wasn't a problem in college it will be at the next level. Plus he was a winner in college so was Jamarcus Russell. Both have the same amount of national championship as a starter.
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Have you seen his mechanics? With his throwing motion at the next level he would get picked 65% of the time. That wasn't a problem in college it will be at the next level. Plus he was a winner in college so was Jamarcus Russell. Both have the same amount of national championship as a starter.
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Have you seen his mechanics? With his throwing motion at the next level he would get picked 65% of the time. That wasn't a problem in college it will be at the next level. Plus he was a winner in college so was Jamarcus Russell. Both have the same amount of national championship as a starter.
What about Sloooooow release Campbell
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Here's mine. Obviously we need to see their Combine numbers and Senior Bowl / E-W Shrine performances to get a better look. All are projected in the 4th or later rounds:

QB - I'll hop on the Skelton express. Also Max Hall from BYU.

RB - Joique Bell, 6' 1", 223. 4.53 (low 4.43) 40 time, Wayne St.
Will be in the NFL Combine and Senior Bowl.
Wayne St. RB Joique Bell named Division II player of the year - ESPN

RB - Deji Karim, 5' 9", 205. 4.46 (low 4.37) 40 time, Southern Ill.
Will be in the TX vs. Nation Challenge 2/6/2010
SOUTHERN ILLINOIS' DEJI KARIM HAS NFL SCOUTS RUSHING TO CAMPUS | Bleacher Report

C - Eric Olsen, 6' 4", 305. 5.26 (low 5.12), Notre Dame
Will be in Senior Bowl. 1 sack in 450 Pass Att, 50 NCAA starts.
Projected 5th rd

C- Jim Cordle, 6' 4", 298. 5.12, Ohio State
Can play all OL positions. Projected 7th-FA

G - Mitch Petrus, 6' 3", 315. 5.09 (low 4.96). Arkansas
1st Team All SEC (coaches). Projected 4th rd.

G - Thomas Austin, 6' 3", 310. 5.16. Clemson
All ACC 2nd Team (media). Projected 7th-FA

G - Marshall Newhouse, 6' 3" 320. 5.06 (low 4.96). TCU
Will be in the NFL Combine and East-West Shrine game.
All Mountain West 1st Team. All-American selection. Projected FA

T - Jared Veldheer, 6' 8" 321. 4.89 (low 4.82). Hillsdale
Little All-American First Team. Projected 4-5 rd.

T- Ed Wang, 6' 5" 309. 4.95 (low 4.89). Virginia Tech
All ACC 2nd Team. Projected 5th rd.

RT - Drew Davis, 6' 7" 305. 5.20 (low 5.09). Alabama
Projected 7th Rd.

LT - Jeff Linkenbach, 6' 6" 312. 5.18 (low 5.07). Cincy.
All Big East 2nd Team. Projected FA.

not much FS help to get excited about, but if Kam Chancellor slips into the 5th or later he'd be a good value. Watching him play live reminded me of ST, although he doesn't cover ground the way ST could.

OLB - Perry Riley, 6' 1" 245. 4.64 (low 4.53). LSU
Projected 5th rd.

OLB (will be a converted DE) - Arthur Moats, 6' 250. 4.58. JMU
Projected 6-7th rd.
Arthur Moats Captures 2009 Buck Buchanan Award -- CHATTANOOGA, Tenn., Dec. 18 /PRNewswire/ --

CB - Stephan Virgil, 5' 11" 190. 4.49 (low 4.37). Virginia Tech
Projected 4-5 rd.

CB - AJ Wallace, 6' 195. 4.43 (low 4.34). Penn State
Projected 6-7 rd.
Latest update from East/West Shrine on a couple of my late rounders:

Risers and Fallers from East-West Shrine practices - NFL - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

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FS Kam Chancellor, Virginia Tech
Physically imposing at 6-3, 232 pounds, Chancellor looks the part of a potential starting free safety. There will be inevitable comparisons to former Hokies safety Aaron Rouse, a third-round pick of the Green Bay Packers and current starter for the Giants. Chancellor was willing to be physical this week and showed the range to close on out routes.

OG Marshall Newhouse, TCU
He lined up all along the offensive line this week, turning his man out of the hole, setting quickly in pass protection and generally out-working his man whether playing inside or outside. The 6-3, 326-pound former Horned Frog projects to guard at the next level, but scouts value his versatility to slide over to either tackle spot if needed.


East-West Shrine Game - Big Ten Blog - ESPN

Not so Good
Ohio State OL Jim Cordle: "OL Jim Cordle was very slow off the ball, heavy footed and lacked the initial quickness off the ball needed to make the block. Against Virginia's Nate Collins, he didn't get out of his stance quick enough, had his head down and Collins exploded out, used his hands and beat Cordle to the side."
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What about Sloooooow release Campbell
Why go from slow too slower Colt has a better future then Tebow IMO.
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I agree about Coker, but once he runs 4.3 at the combine, pot smoker or not, his draft stock is going to climb and i don't think he'll remain a late round prospect.

A QB to look for if we don't land one in before the 4th round:

Jarrett Brown WVU


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Quarterbacks – West Virginia's Jarrett Brown has put on a show this week. His quick release reminds me a lot of Philadelphia Eagles' quarterback Michael Vick's. He snaps the ball in his delivery with terrific velocity and a tight spiral. While he may need some development to become capable of starting in the NFL, Brown certainly has the talent needed to do so. You could definitely argue that Brown is a better pocket passer than his former teammate Pat White was when he entered the draft last year. With team's becoming more athletic in the NFL, Brown should find a home in the middle of the draft.
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I agree about Coker, but once he runs 4.3 at the combine, pot smoker or not, his draft stock is going to climb and i don't think he'll remain a late round prospect.

A QB to look for if we don't land one in before the 4th round:

Jarrett Brown WVU


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I would get Stull from Pitt before I would draft Brown. Too many great under the radar QBs that we could pick up with killer stats and good moves to boot. Sheehan, Lefevour, Pike, Kafka, even Canfield from Oregon St would be better prospects than Brown. Brown is talented for sure, but the true gunslingers are the ones that make the most impact in the NFL.
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I would get Stull from Pitt before I would draft Brown. Too many great under the radar QBs that we could pick up with killer stats and good moves to boot. Sheehan, Lefevour, Pike, Kafka, even Canfield from Oregon St would be better prospects than Brown. Brown is talented for sure, but the true gunslingers are the ones that make the most impact in the NFL.
Why do you think they would be better prospects? Because they're true 'gunslingers'?

BTW-here's another tidbit on Brown:

Draft Countdown's Senior Bowl Coverage - 1/27/10 South Practice Report

• Today West Virginia’s Jarrett Brown had the best performance by a quarterback that I’ve seen so far this week. That isn’t necessarily saying a whole lot though… Once again Brown showcased his strong arm and while he tends to make his receivers work for the catch he was solid in 7-on-7’s. Brown also displayed nice touch and accuracy on a fade round. Brown is still raw but he should be a nice mid-round pick for someone as a developmental signal caller.
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