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Old 02-10-2010, 10:36 AM   #136
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hopefully we can find a trading partner to trade down. theres not that great a difference between the top OL in the draft and ones that will be available in the bottom of round 1 and the top of round 2. None of the OL in this draft strike me as top 5 material. Also, as many have noted, neither of the "top" QBs in this draft are top 10 material. If we're stuck at 4, we'd be much better off in the long run drafting BPA than reaching for Bradford or Clausen. Atleast, thats how things look now. Alot can - and will - change over the next 2 months to affect players draft stock.
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Old 02-10-2010, 02:04 PM   #137
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If we do go the "develop a prospect" route at QB I see Zac Robinson as a great fit. Apparently the rumor is that Shanahan would want someone who took a hit to their draft stock, but was originally projected much higher during preseason. Robinson has the zip on his throws to get the ball downfield, accurate, mobile, played under center, and he's played against strong competition.

Personally I don't see the appeal in McCoy. His arm is way to weak, especially on throws like deep outs and he has a tendency to leave receivers high and dry. Maybe the Shanahan's, especially Kyle, will see something and take a flyer but personally I don't see it, in fact I think he's way to similar to Colt Brenan, who obviously is already on our roster.

Pike doesn't have the worlds greatest production but his numbers are solid. He also has the type of build that reminds me of Matt Schuab. Still the lack of experience under center is a pretty big concern.

LeFevoure is a personal favorite, given that he's a MAC QB with great numbers.

How about Jevan Snead. A lot of people were predicting he would be the first qb taken in this draft, he has all the prototypical pocket passer attributes, and if there's anyone who could rebuild his confidence and work on his decision making skills its Mike Shanahan (see Jay Cutler). If he's around in the 4th round (which he very well could be) he could end up being the steal of this draft.
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Old 02-10-2010, 02:09 PM   #138
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How about Jevan Snead. A lot of people were predicting he would be the first qb taken in this draft, he has all the prototypical pocket passer attributes, and if there's anyone who could rebuild his confidence and work on his decision making skills its Mike Shanahan (see Jay Cutler). If he's around in the 4th round (which he very well could be) he could end up being the steal of this draft.
Where did you get this info? I believe whole lot of people are predicting that either Bradford or Clausen will be the first QB to be taken..
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Old 02-10-2010, 02:14 PM   #139
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Where did you get this info? I believe whole lot of people are predicting that either Bradford or Clausen will be the first QB to be taken..
Going into the 2009 season, a lot of people thought Snead was in a position to play himself into the #1 overall pick. He was very underwhelming though, and I think he made a mistake going pro this year.
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Before this year Snead was considered easily a first round pick....
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Old 02-10-2010, 02:19 PM   #141
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Snead had a terrible year. But he's got a low of raw talent. Someone will take a chance on him somewhere between the 3rd and 5th round. That someone could could be Shanallenahan.

When he year started Snead was projected much higher, first round even
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Old 02-10-2010, 03:23 PM   #142
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Where did you get this info? I believe whole lot of people are predicting that either Bradford or Clausen will be the first QB to be taken..
He was projected to be a first round QB before the ncaa college football season had begun.
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Old 02-10-2010, 03:49 PM   #143
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I see.. Well, I don't usually look into those kind of stuff because many things can happen through out a season..
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Snead had a terrible year. But he's got a low of raw talent. Someone will take a chance on him somewhere between the 3rd and 5th round. That someone could could be Shanallenahan.

When he year started Snead was projected much higher, first round even
Snead scares me. Sure he has a lot of great physical tools, and the poor mechanics make you think that maybe if you improve the mechanics you can improve everything else, but I keep on hearing that he has a lot of trouble reading defenses and that is a deal breaker in my mind.

Personally I would much rather have Zac Robinson. However then again why go after a QB half cocked? Why not go after the best prospects available in the first round?
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Snead scares me. Sure he has a lot of great physical tools, and the poor mechanics make you think that maybe if you improve the mechanics you can improve everything else, but I keep on hearing that he has a lot of trouble reading defenses and that is a deal breaker in my mind.

Personally I would much rather have Zac Robinson. However then again why go after a QB half cocked? Why not go after the best prospects available in the first round?
I think because the need on the depth chart exceeds the need on the field. There's just not much (if anything at all) behind Campbell.

To me, the argument for taking BQBA at #4 is entirely different from the one at taking BQBA at #173 (or whatever). We wouldn't be addressing the same need.
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Snead had a terrible year. But he's got a low of raw talent. Someone will take a chance on him somewhere between the 3rd and 5th round. That someone could could be Shanallenahan.

When he year started Snead was projected much higher, first round even
Generally speaking, I would expect players who are supremely skilled to have their talent show through at the college level at some point, even if inconsistently over a career. Based on the available evidence, which includes a disappointing transfer, a wildly inconsistent debut season at Ole Miss, followed by a terribly disappointing one, I have only to conclude that Snead is either really, really unlucky, or not very talented.

By coming out early, he leaves that dualism unanswered, which is probably his best bet to get drafted.
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I must admit that as time goes by the thought of drafting Bradford does get me excited. I think he has what it takes to be a very, very good QB. But then with the annoucement of Russ Grimm going into the HOF, I think again of how much we need a good OL. I read somewhere about how amazing it is that JC's numbers went up playing behind possibly one of the worse OL's in history. With the Hogs, it really didn't matter that we didn't have a franchise QB. And behind the Hogs, even someone like Timmy Smith could run for over 200 yards in the Super Bowl. How much better would JC be, or one of our RB's be running behind a great o-line? It would be nice for the first time in a long time, to be strong in the trenches so we could really know how strong our skill positions really are. I'm so tired of our o-line sucking and our QB getting eaten alive. Maybe it's all the talk about the Hogs lately.....I just wish we could be strong up front once again instead of being a joke.
QB is the most important position on the field. If Shanahan and Allen think Bradford is that good and can be let's say what Brees is then they simply have to take him, regardless of the situation with the line.
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Old 02-10-2010, 05:32 PM   #148
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I think we should trade away the pick -- one of these guys will be there later in the round
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It's not like if we draft Bradford that we are going to ignore the Oline. We still have free agency, trades, and picks in rounds 2,4,5 and 7 to address the line. The line will be addressed,it's just a matter of how.
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It's not like if we draft Bradford that we are going to ignore the Oline. We still have free agency, trades, and picks in rounds 2,4,5 and 7 to address the line. The line will be addressed,it's just a matter of how.
I just don't understand how you could justify taking a QB at #4 (being a weak QB class according to pundits) and ignoring the disgusting play by the offensive line last season.

Given the success of first round tackles over the past few seasons, to me taking a QB with that #4 is not an option. If Okung is not available at #4, then the next best solution is to trade down and get more picks and still pick up a tackle with the first rounder.

Honestly, with the uncapped year free agency is going to be pretty bad, and most of your young talented players are going to be RFAs. Trading picks for players is something that I don't want to see happen in this team for a loong time. And to me saying "we'll take care of the line with the later rounds" sounds a lot like Vinny Cerrato.
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