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Old 02-11-2010, 07:36 PM   #211
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Re: Bradford/Clausen now split among Mock Drafts

I wish we had the 14th pick instead of the 4th where a guy like Best or McLain is more easily justified
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Old 02-11-2010, 07:37 PM   #212
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I wish we had the 14th pick instead of the 4th where a guy like Best or McLain is more easily justified
Agreed.

We just have to find the player who can best help us build a team that can beat the Chargers backups.
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Old 02-11-2010, 07:41 PM   #213
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Agreed.

We just have to find the player who can best help us build a team that can beat the Chargers backups.
Why do you think I want to trade for Billy Volek?
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Why do you think I want to trade for Billy Volek?
Something about birds and stones?
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Something about birds and stones?
Something like that
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Old 02-11-2010, 08:13 PM   #216
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Never mind Billy Volek. Two words Charlie Whitehurst
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Never mind Billy Volek. Two words Charlie Whitehurst
He threw less interceptions then JC last year so that is a plus.
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I wish we had the 14th pick instead of the 4th where a guy like Best or McLain is more easily justified
Last position I want to see this team draft for the next 2 years before round 3 is running back. I know we need one but Shanahan is very good at finding the guys late, not to mention the irony that his last second round running back (Tatum Bell) didn't do so well.
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Old 02-11-2010, 11:40 PM   #219
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Never mind Billy Volek. Two words Charlie Whitehurst
Former High School teammate of mine. I'm actually kind of surprised that they haven't bumped him up ahead of Volek yet but the fact that he's stayed in the league as long as he has must mean they see something in him.

I also got a chance to play with his cousin who was ironically a lineman. He has a little brother named Kane who's also a pretty good QB at my old high school, but he doesn't have the same height that Charlie has, so I'm not sure how aggressively he's going to get recruited.

But yeah, I'd love to see him get a shot at starting somewhere. I remember on draft day a few of the gurus felt he could easily develop into a starter one day. Still not a bad life. Making over $300,000 a year while living in San Diego playing football.
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Old 02-12-2010, 01:10 PM   #220
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Thought this was interesting. Per Mel Kiper:
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Q: How much does the way Jimmy Clausen play remind you of Brady Quinn? I'm only wondering because Quinn slipped in the draft and hasn't made an impact in the NFL yet.

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A: They're two completely different guys, the biggest (and closest) similarity being that both were coached by Charlie Weis. In the case of Quinn, let's at least point out that the jury is still out on how this guy will be perceived as an NFL quarterback. He still has a chance, bottom line, and that's up to Mike Holmgren and Eric Mangini. But to compare, start with style. Clausen, despite really gaudy TD-INT numbers, has a bit of riverboat gambler in him, and until this year, his surrounding team and blocking were bad. Quinn played with much better talent and didn't have to gamble as much. Clausen played for a team where the defense wasn't stopping people, and it became clear he felt he had to score. That he took his shots and still didn't make mistakes says a lot. Clausen is also a more accurate thrower. Their arm strength is similar -- neither guy is remarkable there, but both can get it done. Neither is a scrambler, but they can both maneuver decently around the pocket.

One thing I'll say about Clausen: He's tough, and when I talk to people who know, his marks as a competitor are simply off the charts. Former Notre Dame defensive coordinator Jon Tenuta told me that if everyone played with Clausen's competitiveness, everyone on the previous coaching staff would still have their jobs. Golden Tate said he can't remember throws that were off the mark, and Tate, as good as he is, doesn't get much separation as a receiver. Clausen had to put it on him. I know Clausen could drop, and I'm higher on him than a lot of people, but this kid's done well and played hurt, and he's done it under center, which means a lot. He could even go higher than Bradford when it's all said and done.
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Old 02-12-2010, 02:30 PM   #221
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I think Kiper's really underselling the quality of the Notre Dame offense. Yeah, that 2007 season offered nothing in terms of skilled players or line protectoin, and Clausens overall numbers are somewhat weighed down by that season, but he had two years of a strong pass protecting OL, and with the exception of some injuries to players in 2008, it's hard to argue that the skill position players weren't better than what Quinn had (which, admittedly, was also a very strong offensive unit, independent of the quarterback).

If nothing else though, you don't have a toughness issue in Clausen. In Bradford...who knows, really?
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^ So the absolute best way to go would be to draft o-line with the first 2 picks. I'll take R. Okung and C. Brown...T. Williams...B. Buluga. Whichever is still there in the second. I mean the odds are in our favor we'd get 2 young starters for the o-line right?
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Old 02-12-2010, 05:43 PM   #223
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I think we actually have the 4th and 37th picks (5th pick in the 2nd round)
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Old 02-12-2010, 06:00 PM   #224
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^ So the absolute best way to go would be to draft o-line with the first 2 picks. I'll take R. Okung and C. Brown...T. Williams...B. Buluga. Whichever is still there in the second. I mean the odds are in our favor we'd get 2 young starters for the o-line right?
Buluga....Second Round....????? *very confused face* You do realize that Buluga is being projected right now as a top 10 pick right?

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Iowa OT Bryan Bulaga (6-6, 311); Grade: 94 -- Bulaga jumps from No. 20 to No. 6 in large part because he appears far more comfortable in pass protection on the left side than Oklahoma's Trent Williams.

Bulaga isn't as explosive or as athletic as Rutgers OT Anthony Davis (No. 4 overall to Washington), but Bulaga is quick enough to prevent edge rushers from turning the corner and shows excellent balance when forced to change directions quickly. Bulaga also has the frame, strength and toughness to develop into an effective drive blocker.

Bulaga could continue to climb and jump ahead of Oklahoma State OT Russell Okung, who played well enough to be an early first-round pick but did not dominate the point of attack as we expected. Bulaga is also helped by the changes to the final draft order, which now has three teams with significant need at offensive tackle among the top six overall picks.
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Old 02-12-2010, 06:02 PM   #225
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I could see Bulaga to the late 1st, maybe even the top of the 2nd. More likely late 1st though
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