Bradford/Clausen now split among Mock Drafts

diehardskin2982

this has already been posted as a thread hasn't it?

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I would love us to look at Russell Okung, Anthony Davis, or Trent Williams. Neither of these QBs to me are worthy of the 4th pick.

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53Fan

I'm with you. If Okung is there at #4 I think they'd have to have a very good reason to pass him up. I don't think either of these guys are a good enough reason. If we take a QB, I would have to think Shanny is completely sold on him.

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There has been three different threads since January 1st dealing with Mock Drafts and how they relate to the Redskins and Sam Bradford. I thought there was a draft forum.

Dirtbag59

Clausen might not have the intangibles that Bradford has but from what I've seen there are two key differences in Clausens favor. One he has played through injury (Bradford tried but it came back to haunt him) and two he's played under center in a pro style offense. Also from the TD passes I saw from Clausen they were placed very well. In other words either the reciever was going to catch it or no one was getting it.

Heres a video. Another thing I liked about Clausens TD passes were they were thrown to multiple receivers, where when I first loaded the video I expected a bunch of TD passes to Golden Tate but that wasn't the case.


Personally I feel like this is a very deep QB class and right now we have the chance to grab one of the top tier prospects to possibly be our franchise QB for the next 10 years. I mean even the second tier guys like Tebow and McCoy are probably going to be solid for someone.

I personally think Tebow is going to prove a lot of people wrong about his ability to QB in the NFL but he'll probably fit best in a place like Jacksonville with their strong running game and his ability to throw the deep ball.

Then you have the third tier guys like Pike and LeFevour one of which will probably emerge as a starter down the line.

I'd also like to add that in terms of personallity Bradford reminds me a lot of Matt Schuab in that he's relatively quiet and laid back which in that case you could bring up Campbell. Clausen on the other hand reminds me of Phillip Rivers in terms of personality. For example if we ever played the Bears I could easily see Clausen yelling at Cutler from the sidelines talking trash

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GTripp0012

I'm higher on Clausen than Todd McShay is, certainly I feel he's a first-round type at least, and I'd rank him above Sam Bradford in a generic rankings list of the draft prospects, but (and I'll probably repeat this no less than fifteen times between now and draft day) my most generous projections for him see him as a Campbell clone.

If he can't get the ball out any better than Campbell, he doesn't complete any more of his passes than Campbell, and his YPA is ultimately just as dependent on his teammates as Campbell's is, it simply wouldn't be a significant upgrade.

Sam Bradford is a different breed of quarterback, something we haven't tried already. But the fact that I have Clausen ranked behind our incumbent (based on total career peak value), but ahead of Bradford suggests that Bradford would also be tough to justify at No. 4.

With that said, it's not hard to see Sam Bradford as wildly successful in the NFL. It's just really hard to see him (or Clausen) as a savior. I just don't think Peyton Manning or Philip Rivers is walking through that door anytime soon.

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Dirtbag59

Where can you find these numbers? I thought KC Joyner from ESPN did something like that. If I remember right it was a combination of career starts and completion percentage that served as the best indicators of success in the NFL.

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Two words...........Colt McCoy (2nd Round).

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GTripp0012

My projections are different from Joyner's and slightly deviant from the Lewin Career Forecast (see link), but this article is a nice one about the 2008 draft, with the FO peak projection value system, including the neccessary tepidations about Matt Ryan that I shared at the time.

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diehardskin2982

What type of QB is Bradford? who do you feel his game compares most to?

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GTripp0012

Anecdotally, I think he some mix of Eli Manning or Steve McNair on the high end, or Jon Kitna/JP Losman on the low end. All of those guys were primarily pocket passers with quick releases and relative athleticism, but the guys who made it were good decision makers under pressure. The guys who ended up being backups or out of the league were poor decision makers under pressure.

I think we (I?) know a lot more about Clausen's mediocre ability to adjust to adverse conditions, compared to Bradford, who is an unknown from that one aspect.

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Lotus

Davis was repeatedly suspended in college for discipline issues. I'm not sure that he is our boy.

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tootergray34

please get off the colt mccoy fling...todd mcshay has him as a 5th or 5th rounder at best