Jimmy Clausen has met with the Redskins

johno · 03-17-2010, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

LOl, agreed, He is just not a top ten pick. It would be a severe reach at #4. Im hoping either Bradford or Okung at this point.

you hit the nail on the head. i couldnt agree with this analysis more. if Bradford isnt there at 4, take Okung.

SBXVII · 03-17-2010, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by johno

you hit the nail on the head. i couldnt agree with this analysis more. if Bradford isnt there at 4, take Okung.

Even if Okung is not a fit for the system or blocking scheme Shanahan is trying to implement?

Mattyk · 03-17-2010, 10:25 AM

Okung with his athleticism shouldn't have a problem zone blocking in the NFL.

johno · 03-17-2010, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

Even if Okung is not a fit for the system or blocking scheme Shanahan is trying to implement?

yes. hes top 5 talent, and the best player available at our position of greatest need. its not like we are out getting guys that fit into the ZBS anyway.

12thMan · 03-17-2010, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

LOl, agreed, He is just not a top ten pick. It would be a severe reach at #4...Colt in the second round would be a better value and I think he will be there. Im hoping either Bradford or Okung at this point.

Umm....my thinking has evolved about who is deemed to be a good value at which slot and who's not. Bottom line is you don't know until you know. I mean, Clausen at #1 might make sense for some teams. You know? If you like him, then you like him. I think whether he goes at #1 or #10 is completely overstated and irrelevant when the team is on the clock. If a GM believes that this guy can help you win, and this is your only shot to take him, then it doesn't 'mount to a hill of beans whether he drafts him at #1 or a #10 pick. It makes for good draft day discussion and fodder, but the game is ultimately won on the field. And I don't think there's a ton of space in terms of talent and potential between, say, the top ten picks in the NFL Draft. For all we know, C.J. Spiller could be the #1 pick for a team that places that kind of value on him.

That said, I'm starting to lean towards Clausen over Bradford. Here's why; Clausen has proved, undeniably, that he's the toughest QB in this draft. I watched this guy limp (with that bum toe/foot injury) through at least three games and managed somehow to keep an average Notre Dame team competitive. Also, Bradford's shoulder injury scares the hell out of me. Those things never really heal and the hits he's about to take in the NFL will further take its toll over time. That's just my opinion, of course, but I'm interested to see how he responds to the speed of the game at this level.

Slingin Sammy 33 · 03-17-2010, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

That said, I'm starting to lean towards Clausen over Bradford. Here's why; Clausen has proved, undeniably, that he's the toughest QB in this draft. I watched this guy limp (with that bum toe/foot injury) through at least three games and managed somehow to keep an average Notre Dame team competitive.

I like how you think

Son Of Man · 03-17-2010, 04:34 PM

I would prefer to stay away from Clausen altogether. We already have a QB on our roster with good physical tools but questionable leadership skills/intangibles. Why go down that road again?

Slingin Sammy 33 · 03-17-2010, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Son Of Man

I would prefer to stay away from Clausen altogether. We already have a QB on our roster with good physical tools but questionable leadership skills/intangibles. Why go down that road again?

Carrying a team with average, at best, talent on his back with an injured foot for half the season sure doesn't seem to me like questionable leadership skills/intangibles.

12thMan · 03-17-2010, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Son Of Man

I would prefer to stay away from Clausen altogether. We already have a QB on our roster with good physical tools but questionable leadership skills/intangibles. Why go down that road again?

I don't think it's Clausen's intangibles that anyone questions. He's definitely displayed leadership qualities over and over again.

SirClintonPortis · 03-17-2010, 05:22 PM

So I guess there will be no Jay Cutler-esque secrecy this draft unless it's Bradford now that they've talked with Clausen and Colt McCoy.

Defensewins · 03-17-2010, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

Even if Okung is not a fit for the system or blocking scheme Shanahan is trying to implement?

You keep saying this, but it means nothing. You just want Clausen.
Given Okung's talent, skill and athletic ability, I think he can learn to play any scheme.

12thMan · 03-17-2010, 06:22 PM

I wouldn't mind seeing Maryland's OT come here.

Dirtbag59 · 03-17-2010, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

I wouldn't mind seeing Maryland's OT come here.

Yeah, I'd love to get Jared Gaither for a second as well.

12thMan · 03-17-2010, 06:31 PM

I still haven't heard a definitive argument as to why Bradford is a clear cut #1 pick and Clausen isn't.

For the record, I don't love either of them. But if the 'Skins draft one, I'd rather have Clausen.

Lotus · 03-17-2010, 06:36 PM

^ just for me, I'm worried about Clausen's ability to lead NFL players. They say he is a cocky jerk who does not inspire others to follow. I fear that rather than being able to rally the troops like a good QB should, others will tune him out because they are fatigued of his jerkiness. That is, he could become a Jay Schroeder. What do you say to this? Should I have this concern?

I'm not in love with others and would not mind too much if we drafted Clausen. But you asked, and that is my question. From what I understand about Bradford, I do not have the same concern about him.

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Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,693	Re: Jimmy Clausen has met with the Redskins Okung with his athleticism shouldn't have a problem zone blocking in the NFL. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

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Son Of Man Impact Rookie Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Ellicott City, MD Posts: 643	Re: Jimmy Clausen has met with the Redskins I would prefer to stay away from Clausen altogether. We already have a QB on our roster with good physical tools but questionable leadership skills/intangibles. Why go down that road again? __________________ RG3 or bust!!!!!!!!!!

03-17-2010, 05:22 PM	#175
SirClintonPortis Pro Bowl Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 6,052	Re: Jimmy Clausen has met with the Redskins So I guess there will be no Jay Cutler-esque secrecy this draft unless it's Bradford now that they've talked with Clausen and Colt McCoy.

03-17-2010, 06:22 PM	#177
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,363	Re: Jimmy Clausen has met with the Redskins I wouldn't mind seeing Maryland's OT come here.

03-17-2010, 06:31 PM	#179
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,363	Re: Jimmy Clausen has met with the Redskins I still haven't heard a definitive argument as to why Bradford is a clear cut #1 pick and Clausen isn't. For the record, I don't love either of them. But if the 'Skins draft one, I'd rather have Clausen.

03-17-2010, 06:36 PM	#180
Lotus Mann Up HOF! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 8,906	Re: Jimmy Clausen has met with the Redskins ^ just for me, I'm worried about Clausen's ability to lead NFL players. They say he is a cocky jerk who does not inspire others to follow. I fear that rather than being able to rally the troops like a good QB should, others will tune him out because they are fatigued of his jerkiness. That is, he could become a Jay Schroeder. What do you say to this? Should I have this concern? I'm not in love with others and would not mind too much if we drafted Clausen. But you asked, and that is my question. From what I understand about Bradford, I do not have the same concern about him. __________________ Rooting for the Dallas Cowboys should be recognized as a treatable mental disorder.

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