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Old 03-24-2010, 10:38 AM   #136
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So did he work out or was he just talking to scouts as if he was already a proven prospect and had nothing to prove?
he's doing his own workout april 9th
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Old 03-24-2010, 10:39 AM   #137
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"Also, quarterback Jevan Snead, who is entering the draft as a junior, looked exceptionally sharp for the scouts. He threw about 50 balls and had only three or four overthrows."

Rebels' Dexter McCluster turns on speed for NFL scouts » The Commercial Appeal

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Sadly, still no word of the Redskins being interested
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Old 03-24-2010, 10:45 AM   #138
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I don't know where I read this story, but it was about Tim Tebow taking the wonderlic test, and right before the administrator passed out the tests, Tim announced to the whole room "Hey we should all bow our heads down and say a prayer" then another player in the back of the room said "Shut the Fuck Up" which lead to laughter throughout the whole room.

i just don't know with the current redskins we have now if they'll be mature or not if tebow were to ask them to pray; if they were to do the same thing as what the other guy said.
Tebow's pre-Wonderlic prayer request falls flat | ProFootballTalk.com

Teams pray before and after just about every game, those that don't want to participate generally don't. But usually the whole team gets together for these regardless of their beliefs
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I don't know where I read this story, but it was about Tim Tebow taking the wonderlic test, and right before the administrator passed out the tests, Tim announced to the whole room "Hey we should all bow our heads down and say a prayer" then another player in the back of the room said "Shut the Fuck Up" which lead to laughter throughout the whole room.

i just don't know with the current redskins we have now if they'll be mature or not if tebow were to ask them to pray; if they were to do the same thing as what the other guy said.

What seriously???? I doubt that ever happen and if it did you would real use it in your draft startegy to determine if we should draft Tebow or not.

This is like middle school stuff. "Suzie says Johnny kisses with his mouth open."
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that always struck me as ridiculous. why would God pick one team over another in a sporting contest?
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that always struck me as ridiculous. why would God pick one team over another in a sporting contest?

I believe when they pray it is the health for everyone on the field and that you have the strength to give it 100%.
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Old 03-24-2010, 10:59 AM   #142
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Re: Updated: Redskins to hold private workouts with Tebow and Bradford

I read that last night and was angry at the angle the report took. Out of the 30 comments I read, Marko226 had it right.

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I see players kneel in prayer in the locker room quite often, so perhaps this should be an indictment on the player that said "shut he f' up" instead of on Tebow?
I don't agree with pushing people to religion, to the point you push them away. Florio didn't take the time to find out how Tebow requested the prayer, just beat him up for doing it. Florio did push me away from visiting PFT however.
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that always struck me as ridiculous. why would God pick one team over another in a sporting contest?
Because they prayed harder!

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If Tebow wants to pray I have no problem with that, but he can keep it to himself or get to know the individuals around him well enough to know whom he should invite to participate.

I'm not religious myself but before every wrestling match our team did The Lord's Prayer, it was a unity thing and well, coach led it so I wasn't saying no.

Anyways, Tebow's prayer didn't help him much on his Wonderlic. Maybe we'll see him on celebrity are you smarter than a 5th grader in the future.
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that always struck me as ridiculous. why would God pick one team over another in a sporting contest?
Notice that God is the most fickle of fans: he loves your team this week but hates it the next.
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[QUOTE=tryfuhl;677898]Because they prayed harder!

j/k

If Tebow wants to pray I have no problem with that, but he can keep it to himself or get to know the individuals around him well enough to know whom he should invite to participate.

I'm not religious myself but before every wrestling match our team did The Lord's Prayer, it was a unity thing and well, coach led it so I wasn't saying no.

Anyways, Tebow's prayer didn't help him much on his Wonderlic. Maybe we'll see him on celebrity are you smarter than a 5th grader in the future.[/QUOTE]

How......do you know what he prays about?
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??? What does that mean?
It points out that a majority of high-efficiency college quarterbacks who lack NFL build have tended to drop significantly in the draft (rightly or wrongly, I'm not passing judgment) to later rounds despite their awesome accomplishments on the field. High first round projections are usually given to those who fit one of three molds: pro style signal caller (Clausen fits this, as does Rivers, Rodgers, Campbell, Quinn, and Eli Manning), raw but toolzy underclassman with a high ceiling (Locker, if he had come out, or Sanchez, etc), or projectable gun with quick release/rocket arm (Stafford, Russell, maybe Roethlisberger).

Bradford comes from a completely different angle: supreme college production at a big time program. In the past, those players have tended to be downgraded to the second round or lower do to concerns about adaptability.

If you wanted to disprove my point, I suppose citing Alex Smith would work as an example of someone who didn't fit neatly as a projectable player, but went at the top of the draft anyway, but I'm not sure that would alleviate concerns about franchise-ness.

I've never said I thought Bradford will suck, but the "we have to trade up to get him" mentality is getting a little pervasive, and I needed to present a different way of looking at a player, who, when you take him, his college resume of a Heisman and a 67% completion percentage is all you are getting.

In all fairness, all that matters is that his numbers translate well to the pro level. If they translate really well, he's not an overdraft no matter where he goes. But from a historical scouting standpoint, Bradford, without assuming intangibles we can't imply, has the build of a mid-to-late rounder. For every Romo or Garcia that comes out of the mold to make it, there's a Gradkowski, Frye, or Graham Harrell that doesn't really catch on. But the thing that they all had in common was that no one had to put much down investment on any of them, and could afford to cut bait with the guys who just couldn't play.

It's a different way to look at the "we can't pass him up" mentality. How confident are you (Redskins fan, not necessarily SmootSmack) that his numbers will translate to the pro level, and how much money are you willing to bet that you are right?
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How......do you know what he prays about?
I hope he wasn't praying to get a 22. Take a sample test, they're ridiculously easy. I haven't been in school for years and have gotten 43-50 on every one that I've taken.
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The short version of the above is that Bradford, without his numbers and accolades at Oklahoma, has no value as a prospect. So you need to have a good reason to think you can take what he did in college, and adapt it to your system.

Clausen, on the other hand, if you build him a boat load of talent relative to opposing defenses, he's going to be quite successful regardless of system. That talent thing is easier said than done, obviously, but there's little projection that has to go into Clausen as a prospect. If things around him are bad, he'll struggle, and if things around him are good, he will perform.
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It points out that a majority of high-efficiency college quarterbacks who lack NFL build have tended to drop significantly in the draft (rightly or wrongly, I'm not passing judgment) to later rounds despite their awesome accomplishments on the field. High first round projections are usually given to those who fit one of three molds: pro style signal caller (Clausen fits this, as does Rivers, Rodgers, Campbell, Quinn, and Eli Manning), raw but toolzy underclassman with a high ceiling (Locker, if he had come out, or Sanchez, etc), or projectable gun with quick release/rocket arm (Stafford, Russell, maybe Roethlisberger).

Bradford comes from a completely different angle: supreme college production at a big time program. In the past, those players have tended to be downgraded to the second round or lower do to concerns about adaptability.

If you wanted to disprove my point, I suppose citing Alex Smith would work as an example of someone who didn't fit neatly as a projectable player, but went at the top of the draft anyway, but I'm not sure that would alleviate concerns about franchise-ness.

I've never said I thought Bradford will suck, but the "we have to trade up to get him" mentality is getting a little pervasive, and I needed to present a different way of looking at a player, who, when you take him, his college resume of a Heisman and a 67% completion percentage is all you are getting.

In all fairness, all that matters is that his numbers translate well to the pro level. If they translate really well, he's not an overdraft no matter where he goes. But from a historical scouting standpoint, Bradford, without assuming intangibles we can't imply, has the build of a mid-to-late rounder. For every Romo or Garcia that comes out of the mold to make it, there's a Gradkowski, Frye, or Graham Harrell that doesn't really catch on. But the thing that they all had in common was that no one had to put much down investment on any of them, and could afford to cut bait with the guys who just couldn't play.

It's a different way to look at the "we can't pass him up" mentality. How confident are you (Redskins fan, not necessarily SmootSmack) that his numbers will translate to the pro level, and how much money are you willing to bet that you are right?
I'm even more confused by your point now, sort of sorry I asked
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Re: Updated: Redskins to hold private workouts with Tebow and Bradford

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It points out that a majority of high-efficiency college quarterbacks who lack NFL build have tended to drop significantly in the draft (rightly or wrongly, I'm not passing judgment) to later rounds despite their awesome accomplishments on the field. High first round projections are usually given to those who fit one of three molds: pro style signal caller (Clausen fits this, as does Rivers, Rodgers, Campbell, Quinn, and Eli Manning), raw but toolzy underclassman with a high ceiling (Locker, if he had come out, or Sanchez, etc), or projectable gun with quick release/rocket arm (Stafford, Russell, maybe Roethlisberger).

Bradford comes from a completely different angle: supreme college production at a big time program. In the past, those players have tended to be downgraded to the second round or lower do to concerns about adaptability.

If you wanted to disprove my point, I suppose citing Alex Smith would work as an example of someone who didn't fit neatly as a projectable player, but went at the top of the draft anyway, but I'm not sure that would alleviate concerns about franchise-ness.

I've never said I thought Bradford will suck, but the "we have to trade up to get him" mentality is getting a little pervasive, and I needed to present a different way of looking at a player, who, when you take him, his college resume of a Heisman and a 67% completion percentage is all you are getting.

In all fairness, all that matters is that his numbers translate well to the pro level. If they translate really well, he's not an overdraft no matter where he goes. But from a historical scouting standpoint, Bradford, without assuming intangibles we can't imply, has the build of a mid-to-late rounder. For every Romo or Garcia that comes out of the mold to make it, there's a Gradkowski, Frye, or Graham Harrell that doesn't really catch on. But the thing that they all had in common was that no one had to put much down investment on any of them, and could afford to cut bait with the guys who just couldn't play.

It's a different way to look at the "we can't pass him up" mentality. How confident are you (Redskins fan, not necessarily SmootSmack) that his numbers will translate to the pro level, and how much money are you willing to bet that you are right?
You said Bradford has the build of a mid to late rounder? Do you mean size wise? Bradford measured 6’4” 236 at the combine. He has prototype NFL QB size.
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