Warpath  

Home | Forums | Salary Cap Info | Shop | Donate | Stay Connected




Go Back   Warpath > Redskins Forums > Redskins Locker Room > NFL Draft Central


At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen?

NFL Draft Central


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-23-2010, 01:04 PM   #76
Playmaker
 
over the mountain's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: baltimore
Posts: 3,236
Re: At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen?

im down for any of the top tier tackles but i would stay away from anthony davis. seems like an exact clone of andre smith last year.

dedication, conditioning issues. was suspended a few times for missing/being late to team meetings. was demoted to the 2nd team at rutgers for reporting overweight.

missed his pro day b/c he was "sick". (i say he was out of shape, given his track record)

alot like andre smith who had the same conditioning and off field issues. also missed his pro day. i think davis actually stayed at the combine unlike davis who just left. andre smith then went on to be drafted top 10 by the bengals, holds out for along time then injures himself for the year on the first day he joins the team.

i despise players like this. im not knee jerk reacting when a player does this consistently for 4 years.

i would avoid players like this at all costs. with such a good quantity of 1st round talent at tackle, i dont see why we would have to settle for a davis.
over the mountain is offline   Reply With Quote

Advertisements
Old 03-23-2010, 01:09 PM   #77
Gamebreaker
 
tryfuhl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Waldorf, MD
Age: 30
Posts: 12,514
Re: At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen?

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmootSmack View Post
Didn't realize Brown was slipping either. He's always been, as far as I know, pegged in the late 1st to early 2nd.

Saffold is rising a lot. Eagles, among other teams, are showing strong interest in him and could be targeting him with their 1st round pick
I meant as far as being considered like an 18-25 guy. I guess "apparently" was the wrong word though; more so "according to Kirwan" (at least in his recent mock) who had him going at pick 26 to the Cardinals before this version. Still though, that's only one man's speculation at this point.

Mock draft 4.0: If Clausen slips, Bills could take him at No. 9
tryfuhl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2010, 01:09 PM   #78
Playmaker
 
celts32's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Hackettstown NJ
Age: 43
Posts: 2,656
Re: At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen?

Quote:
Originally Posted by murphy196 View Post
Your thoughts on taking McCoy and Tebow over Clausen based on Stats are just absurd. Granted my tone was that of an a-hole, I'm just tired of people that aren't well informed on these guys.
I agree with you that Clausen is the better prospect. There are plenty of people who think McCoy will be better though. To each his own. It doesn't necessarily mean that someone who doesn't agree is not as "well informed" as you. And actually since none of us have, met with, worked out or viewed all the coaches tape on these prospects we are all not well informed to some extent.
__________________
Section 115 Row 23

“Goal line, goal line. I-left, tight wing, 70 chip on white.”

http://victorybeer.com/

Last edited by celts32; 03-23-2010 at 03:10 PM.
celts32 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2010, 01:11 PM   #79
Gamebreaker
 
tryfuhl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Waldorf, MD
Age: 30
Posts: 12,514
Re: At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen?

And on Clausen, as I posted in the Clausen has met with the Skins thread, he will not be working out at his pro day. He's rescheduled his workout for April 9th.
tryfuhl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2010, 01:56 PM   #80
Naega jeil jal naga
 
Dirtbag59's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland
Age: 29
Posts: 14,506
Re: At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen?

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat View Post
wow, i hadnt heard that.... although i doubt he'd slip all the way to our 2nd round pick (at the bottom of the 2nd round after the trade with the vikings). In that case, i'd take Campbell or Saffold at 17. From what i've read, theres a substantial drop-off in talent after the first 6-7 OTs, where as theres not much difference between the top tackles not named okung.
I wouldn't say theres much of a drop off in talent as there is a dropoff in NFL ready players. Guys like Vladimir Ducasse and Jared Veldheer. Both of those guys could easily be this years Sebastian Vollmer.
__________________
6.67×10−11 m3 kg−1 s−2

"I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now."
- FRPLG
Dirtbag59 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2010, 02:31 PM   #81
Impact Rookie
 
warpaint's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: The Great State of Texas
Posts: 994
Re: At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen?

Quote:
Originally Posted by murphy196 View Post
Your thoughts on taking McCoy and Tebow over Clausen based on Stats are just absurd. Granted my tone was that of an a-hole, I'm just tired of people that aren't well informed on these guys.
I seen McCoy throughout his college career since I live in The Big 12 Country. McCoy throws a better pass than Clausen. He hits his WR in stride more often the Clausen. I was watching some of Jimmys highlights. The passes he completes makes his WR stop and comeback. The others would get picked by any starting secondary in the league and just cuase he plays from under center more often than most makes him ready to start, doesn't sell me on him. On Tebow I feel they way he changed his delivery in such a short time and WOWED all the scouts shows his commitment to being the best, and with his body of work proves he will bust his but off to acheiving excellence. Hell even Shanny and Allen had to go take a look at him to see what the hype was about.

I know there are hundreds of guys here who can disect this apart and make a case for me being wrong. But this is just my opinion.
__________________
"Not only do you get a 1st down, but you get a whole new set of downs" John Madden

Last edited by warpaint; 03-24-2010 at 01:06 AM.
warpaint is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2010, 02:51 PM   #82
Naega jeil jal naga
 
Dirtbag59's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland
Age: 29
Posts: 14,506
Re: At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen?

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmootSmack View Post
Didn't realize Brown was slipping either. He's always been, as far as I know, pegged in the late 1st to early 2nd.

Saffold is rising a lot. Eagles, among other teams, are showing strong interest in him and could be targeting him with their 1st round pick
Certainly possible. Eben Britton was given a slightly higher grade last year by Scouts inc then Charles Brown currently has (89 for Britton 86 for Brown) and Britton lasted till the 39th pick (7th in the 2nd or as some of my friends would say a 39th round pick).
__________________
6.67×10−11 m3 kg−1 s−2

"I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now."
- FRPLG
Dirtbag59 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2010, 03:52 PM   #83
The Starter
 
30gut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,099
Re: At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen?

Quote:
Originally Posted by GTripp0012 View Post
Options are:

-I would not be willing to use the 37th overall pick on Jimmy Clausen
-I would be willing to spend the 37th overall pick on Clausen, but not trade up for him
-I would be willing to trade our fourth round pick to move up 2-6 spots and ensure that we get him, even if it looks like we can get him at 37.
-I would be willing to trade up about 10 picks into the back end of the first round (ahead of, say, Arizona), at the cost of the 2011 2nd rounder.
-If Jimmy Clausen is available after the 16th pick in the first round, we should trade our 2011 first rounder to ensure we get him.

Note: in all situations, you would be using the second round pick in part of the trade/selection process.
I would be willing to spend the 37th overall pick on Clausen, but not trade up for him
__________________
No longer were NFL coaches dealing inflexibly with spread [QBs] in ways that caused stunted development for players like [A. Smith and Vick] now, the idea is to bring what the quarterback can do, and what he should do, together as an organic whole
30gut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2010, 03:56 PM   #84
Registered User
 
SBXVII's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Virginia
Posts: 7,766
Re: At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen?

LOL, this topic is hilarious. I'd trade up to get Bradford if I had to. Give the Rams JC and this yrs #4 pick and maybe even throw in Carter if I had to since he's not happy with the 3-4. Campbells gone after this year so we might as well get something worth while for him.
SBXVII is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2010, 04:05 PM   #85
Living Legend
 
GTripp0012's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Evanston, IL
Age: 26
Posts: 15,994
Re: At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen?

Quote:
Originally Posted by SBXVII View Post
LOL, this topic is hilarious. I'd trade up to get Bradford if I had to. Give the Rams JC and this yrs #4 pick and maybe even throw in Carter if I had to since he's not happy with the 3-4. Campbells gone after this year so we might as well get something worth while for him.
Then when they say no, you just go bash some heads? Show em how its done!
__________________
according to a source with knowledge of the situation.
GTripp0012 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2010, 04:19 PM   #86
Impact Rookie
 
tootergray34's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Charleston, SC
Posts: 681
Re: At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen?

I would say anywhere...Clausen is a can't miss prospect and should be treated as such. We'll be lucky to get him.
tootergray34 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2010, 04:31 PM   #87
Registered User
 
BigHairedAristocrat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 3,917
Re: At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen?

Quote:
Originally Posted by tootergray34 View Post
I would say anywhere...Clausen is a can't miss prospect and should be treated as such. We'll be lucky to get him.
most NFL GMs and media pundits would disagree with you. what do you know that people who do this for a living (and get paid 6-7 figures annually to do so) don't?
BigHairedAristocrat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2010, 04:45 PM   #88
Playmaker
 
celts32's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Hackettstown NJ
Age: 43
Posts: 2,656
Re: At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen?

Quote:
Originally Posted by tootergray34 View Post
I would say anywhere...Clausen is a can't miss prospect and should be treated as such. We'll be lucky to get him.
lol...
__________________
Section 115 Row 23

“Goal line, goal line. I-left, tight wing, 70 chip on white.”

http://victorybeer.com/
celts32 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2010, 05:05 PM   #89
MVP
 
CRedskinsRule's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Pasadena, Md
Age: 47
Posts: 12,493
Re: At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen?

He slept at a Holiday Inn Express last night!



I love that line!
__________________
Dirtbag59, sending songs to oblivion 1 writer at a time.
CRedskinsRule is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2010, 05:42 PM   #90
Playmaker
 
NYCskinfan82's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Queens, NYC
Age: 44
Posts: 3,398
Re: At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Meks View Post
i opt out of all of it and dont even consider taking clausen at all..

4th - Okung
37th - Best available OL.

Agree 120% unless we can trade down and accumalate more picks.
NYCskinfan82 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:11 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site is not officially affiliated with the Washington Redskins or the NFL.
Page generated in 0.29129 seconds with 9 queries

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC5

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25