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Old 04-02-2010, 04:50 PM   #181
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Yeah he's been facing a lot of those questions. Basically even if he does have a strong preference he's not going to say it, at least not now.
Lol on the other hand, Shanahan has a strong preference for everyone. Portis, Johnson, Parker, Big Mike, Heyer, Bradford, Tebow, Clausen. Is there anyone Shanahan doesn't like?
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Old 04-02-2010, 09:12 PM   #182
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I agree; QB is a crapshoot, and if the Skins get Bradford and he busts? The Shanahan era will also bust here.
Still, the thought that we might have an 'elite' QB here with an 'elite' Head Coach and a progressive Offensive Co-ordinator is an enticing proposition. For me personally, I would much rather have Bradford/Saffold then Okung/McCoy.
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Old 04-02-2010, 10:00 PM   #183
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Anyone read the article on Yahoo sports? Five moves that should be made before the NFL draft - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

I would be pissed if we gave up that much to move 3 spots. I can understand a flop of picks this year and a flop of picks next year. However, I can't see giving them our first round pick next year for 3 spots.

"Besides, the Redskins never have been shy about dumping draft picks. So why not take the 2011 first-round selection, package it with a failed free-agent signing (or two) from past years, and offer a flip-flop to St. Louis?"
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Old 04-02-2010, 11:54 PM   #184
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He drafted Clady in the 1st a few years ago, I'm sure he understands the importance of talent on the OL.
At the same time he draft Cutler two years before he got Clady. If he likes Clausen enough to take him at 4 then I doubt he'll have any bones about passing up a top tackle prospect.

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I agree; QB is a crapshoot, and if the Skins get Bradford and he busts? The Shanahan era will also bust here.
Still, the thought that we might have an 'elite' QB here with an 'elite' Head Coach and a progressive Offensive Co-ordinator is an enticing proposition. For me personally, I would much rather have Bradford/Saffold then Okung/McCoy.
I looked at the profiles of all the QB's taken in the first since 2003. There is no way of telling what you're going to get. A competent offensive coaching staff is probably your best chance of success along with a solid work ethic.
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Anyone read the article on Yahoo sports? Five moves that should be made before the NFL draft - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

I would be pissed if we gave up that much to move 3 spots. I can understand a flop of picks this year and a flop of picks next year. However, I can't see giving them our first round pick next year for 3 spots.

"Besides, the Redskins never have been shy about dumping draft picks. So why not take the 2011 first-round selection, package it with a failed free-agent signing (or two) from past years, and offer a flip-flop to St. Louis?"
Yeah the one written by Florio for SportingNews? lol

as if suddenly he's an evaluator instead of a reporter
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Old 04-03-2010, 01:21 AM   #186
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I agree; QB is a crapshoot, and if the Skins get Bradford and he busts? The Shanahan era will also bust here.
Still, the thought that we might have an 'elite' QB here with an 'elite' Head Coach and a progressive Offensive Co-ordinator is an enticing proposition. For me personally, I would much rather have Bradford/Saffold then Okung/McCoy.
1 draft QB ain't gonna kill you

don't have to start rookie year

if he's still not the best option he gets pushed back.. sucks as far as pay goes but yeah
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strong gut feeling cult, we'll see
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So, I was listening to NFL live today, and they were talking about what I'm sure has been discussed in this thread already about how the St. Louis dispatch reported that Bradford isn't going to sign a pre-draft contract, and it could be influenced by what Bradford's been hearing from other teams..The NFL live staff all said maybe a team that picks fourth like I don't know,... Washington?

My point is I think that the more little reports that come out like this, especially that Bradford isn't going to pull a stafford and sign a contract before the draft, tells me that the chances of the rams picking Bradford go down little by little the more reports that come out.

I say when all is said and done, Shanahan, BA, and Snyder will all say "This is Our guy, and We have to have him...we'll do anything to get him" I say the only way I believe Sam Bradford isn't a skin is when we officially sign our draft pick at number 4. I think even if the Rams take him at number 1 overall, we'll pull a trade for him. I believe that when all is said and done, Sam Bradford will most likely be a Redskin.
Actually, from what I've seen of both Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan, I don't think they buy into the "this is our guy we have to have him" philosophy. They seem to believe in getting who is available and building a team. I didn't look, but does anyone know whether BA or MS has ever done a trade up and sacrifice future picks?

April 22nd yet?
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Actually, from what I've seen of both Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan, I don't think they buy into the "this is our guy we have to have him" philosophy. They seem to believe in getting who is available and building a team. I didn't look, but does anyone know whether BA or MS has ever done a trade up and sacrifice future picks?

April 22nd yet?
They didn't sacrifice much but the Broncos traded up to take Cutler.
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They didn't sacrifice much but the Broncos traded up to take Cutler.
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Thanks Lotus, still they traded 1st's and a pick they had acquired from someone else. I find it hard to think they would trade up because, as Shanahan pointed out, he hasn't drafted this high in a long time, if ever. He can get an impact player at 4th overall, and I assume that's what he will do.

But if I am wrong, and he trades up, as long as it's not Herschel Walker style, I will be ok with that.
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Re: Sam Bradford's pro day workout should clear up top of NFL draft

Here's a pretty interesting article...

RealGM Football: Wiretap Archives: Interview With The Scout, Part II

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Jeff Risdon: After his strong pro day, itís a given that Sam Bradford will be taken #1 overall. Iím not sold at all on Bradford and I wonder what your opinion of him going #1 overall might be?

Scout: Weíre damn glad it isnít us picking there. Look, Sam Bradford might wind up being a hell of a quarterback, but I wouldnít touch him at #1. The last two times he got hit, his shoulder got hurt. He doesnít do us any good if he canít stay on the field. Thatís why they need a QB in the first place, because Marc Bulger couldnít take the hits anymore.


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JR: Aside from Tim Tebow, the player I get asked more about than any other is Jimmy Clausen. I know youíve scouted him extensively.

Scout: Yeah I have. Iíve seen every snap he took and a lot of them more than a few times. The thing about him is that kid just loves football and itís his whole life. All these people talk about him being this or being that, and they sure as hell havenít ever spent time with him. Because that kid is all about making himself the best NFL quarterback, and heís got the physical ability to do it.

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Again they were still talking about Clausen....

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JR: But will he be successful?

Scout: I really think so. Look, heís got some warts. That kid was a world class prick when he got there, but he figured it out and grew up. You could really see it over the last year. They ran an NFL offense and (Clausen) made reads and drops that none of the other guys have even thought about. He just anticipates routes so well. Now would I like to see him gun it a little harder sometimes, yeah, sure. But for my money this kid is the surest bet in this draft (at QB).

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To be honest I like Bradford but this info really makes me feel comfortable if we pick up Clausen.
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Thanks Lotus, still they traded 1st's and a pick they had acquired from someone else. I find it hard to think they would trade up because, as Shanahan pointed out, he hasn't drafted this high in a long time, if ever. He can get an impact player at 4th overall, and I assume that's what he will do.

But if I am wrong, and he trades up, as long as it's not Herschel Walker style, I will be ok with that.
Agreed. I've argued elsewhere that the difference between Bradford and Clausen may not seem to merit a sell-the-farm trade for ShanAllen, should they be QB-smitten. And ShanAllen are smart enough to realize that just nabbing Okung without selling the farm is a good idea.

I may be proven wrong but I don't think ShanAllen are going to trade up unless the Rams make it inviting.
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Does this scouting report look familair to anyone?:
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Strengths: Is as good as it gets from an intangibles standpoint. Is an outstanding leader  both in terms of vocally and by example. An extremely hard worker  on the field, in the classroom and in the weight room. Is the most cerebral quarterback in this class. Has an outstanding feel for the game, makes few mistakes and understands the importance of ball security. Is one of the most competitive prospects in this class. A "gym-rat" type that just loves playing the game. Has sound mechanics. Delivery is quick and his release point is high. Is a tall QB that rarely has a ball batted down. Does an excellent job of finding throwing windows. Is at his best on short-to-intermediate routes. Has excellent timing and touch. Displays outstanding field vision. Understands how to make a pre-snap read and does a great job of picking up the blitz. Will make his progression reads, shows patience in the pocket and also does a good job of finding open receivers on the move after the original play has broken down. Has very good mobility. Shows quick feet and is fluid. Has a terrific pocket presence. Shows good balance and body control, especially for a taller athlete. Is a threat to run. Doesn't possess Mike Vick's type of explosiveness but has above average speed. Reminds us of a young Brett Favre -- shows some elusiveness and a lot of toughness as a runner. Good vision and a great feel for where the first down markers are. Is mechanically sound and accurate when throwing on the run.

Weaknesses: Arm strength is adequate but not good. Still needs to improve his overall bulk and strength. He can make most of the NFL throws but won't be able to fit the ball into tight spots that many starting NFL quarterbacks can. Very similar to Chad Pennington (Jets) in this area. If there's one facet of his accuracy that is inconsistent it is the deep ball. Ball occasionally will sail and he'll need to improve his timing in order to be successful throwing downfield in the NFL. He spent most of his time in the shotgun and in a spread offense. He will need to learn to read defenses while dropping from under center. He also will need to prove that he's not a "system QB", as he played in an offense that was wide-open and made a lot of the reads very easy for him.
I love Bradford as a prospect, and I'll be the first to say everyones different but I think we'd be much better off with Clausen. If anything this could easily be a 2004 draft situation where both QB's are good but technically the number 2 prospect is better.

Highlight below;
This is the draft profile for Alex Smith back in 2005
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Holy crap! NFL.com has dropped bradford all the way to 12 on its list of best available players.

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