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Old 03-31-2010, 09:51 AM   #121
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The only "monster" move I'd like to see the Redskins pull off is get a sweet deal on a trade down with the Bills or the Raiders. I can see BA outmaneuvering a team like that and getting a mini Herschel Walker-like trade (where Herschel Walker's role would be played by our #4 pick)
All signs point to the Rams taking Bradford and the Lions taking Okung. Either Suh or McCoy should be available when we pick, which means we should have no problem trading down if we want to.

The problem comes in when you consider the possibility that a team trades up to #3 and takes Clausen. At that point, all 3 of the players we'd be most inclined to take at 4 would be gone. Additionally, no one who wants one of the two DTs will would trade with us since atleast one (if not both of them) would still be on the board at 5. This is the nightmare scenario for the skins. Unfortunately, its also the one i think is most likely to happen.
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Old 03-31-2010, 09:58 AM   #122
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All signs point to the Rams taking Bradford and the Lions taking Okung. Either Suh or McCoy should be available when we pick, which means we should have no problem trading down if we want to.

The problem comes in when you consider the possibility that a team trades up to #3 and takes Clausen. At that point, all 3 of the players we'd be most inclined to take at 4 would be gone. Additionally, no one who wants one of the two DTs will would trade with us since atleast one (if not both of them) would still be on the board at 5. This is the nightmare scenario for the skins. Unfortunately, its also the one i think is most likely to happen.
What team is going to trade to 3 to take Clausen? I think this scenario is possible, but not the most likely. If the Lions and Bucs both pass on the top two DT's I would be amazed. I guess, maybe if the Lions take Okung (I think it's possible but not highly so) and the 5th or 6th team wants to trade with TB for Clausen, then maybe because TB would still get a top DT. But KC isn't going for Clausen, and I don't think Cleveland would.

It would take a cataclysmic combination of events for the Skins NOT to come out of this draft with at least two impact players.
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Man... it's like everyone just can't wait for the Skins to pull off a monster move... I just don't see it happening though. The roster has too many needs to give away the farm for one guy. We're already down to just 5 picks this year and to give away more future picks just doesn't seem smart.

Take Okung and then someone like McCoy in the 2nd. I can live with that.
This really all comes down to Shannys evaluation of Bradford. If Shanny thinks he's a franchise QB and feels strongly enough to trade up you would not be okay with that? The Redskins have had average or bad QB play for most of the last 30 years. I know it's a lot to trade up but I am not concerned as much with every hole being filled by September with a long term replacement...I am more concerned with us making the move that better positions us to challange for a Super Bowl sooner. And these days with few exceptions the teams with franchise QB's win the Super Bowl.

Now if Shanny does not think Bradford is a franchise QB then I would be fine with Okung & McCoy.
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I like Bradford, I just don't like the idea of giving up a ton to trade up for him.
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Bradford makes his case to be draft’s first pick | National Football Post

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Old 03-31-2010, 10:46 AM   #126
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This really all comes down to Shannys evaluation of Bradford. If Shanny thinks he's a franchise QB and feels strongly enough to trade up you would not be okay with that?
No, I would not. Further, Shanahan's drafts were almost as bad as Bruce Allens. Neither of them has ever done anything in thier careers to suggest they are savvy talent evaluators, so neither of them should be trading UP for anyone. Consider this: Jay Cutler is the best QB Shanahan has ever drafted.

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If Shanahan sees what I see in him, I'd be all for trading up for him. Give this year's 2 and next year's 1 if we have to. Nothing changes your franchise like an elite franchise QB.

Would we have holes to fill after that? Yes. But no other position on the field has nearly as much impact as a great QB does. I'm not interested in being good, I want to be great. I want the next Troy Aikman to make my team a contender for 10+ years.
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No, I would not. Further, Shanahan's drafts were almost as bad as Bruce Allens. Neither of them has ever done anything in thier careers to suggest they are savvy talent evaluators, so neither of them should be trading UP for anyone. Consider this: Jay Cutler is the best QB Shanahan has ever drafted.

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Yeah but Cutler was great for a year with Shanny, horrible last year with the Bears. Plummer was solid with Shanny, horrible everywhere else. Brian Griese, solid with Shanahan, horrible everywhere else.
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BHA,
What would Cowher do?
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And last but not least, Elway couldn't get over the hump before Shanahan. With him, won two straight titles. Give him the elite QB, and you give Mike Shanahan a chance to give you what you want.
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I hope that Bradford tells the Rams, "I have always hated the Rams and I don't think anything will change that. So I will insist on a $500 mil. contract and hold out as long as it takes to get it."
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Players usually hold out for more money. Dropping to #4 gives you less leverage on arguing for more money, so this makes no sense.
Actually it makes a lot of sense if, as some have surmised, Bradford would prefer to play for Shanahan rather than for the Rams. Although the words were different, Eli Manning did something similar to San Diego a few years ago: he made it clear that he did not want to play for or be drafted by the Chargers.
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Players usually hold out for more money. Dropping to #4 gives you less leverage on arguing for more money, so this makes no sense.
Even if Bradford were to drop to us, I believe he would use the QB position and try to leverage it with us to get a good payday. He may also believe Washington will pay more simply because of the different FO's and ownership. I certainly don't think Washington would ever see a holdout, but the Rams could.

I also think the Rams will want a deal done pre-draft, if Bradford seriously wants to wait that could help him drop. Not necessarily to us though, because Mike Holmgrem might jump up for Bradford.
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I am really excited to see what we do. IF we traded and got Bradford, I would be syked. If we stayed pat and got Okung/Bradford at 4 and McCoy/LT prospect at 37, I would be syked. If we traded down, say with SF or the Raiders, and got more picks, I would be syked.

Dang, I am way too easy!
That's what I'm leaning towards. The only guy I would really want at 4 is Okung (assuming Bradford and the two DTs are gone), but I also don't feel like Okung is that much better than a tackle we could get later on. If we can swing a trade with SF and have two picks in the top 17, that would be great.

I think so much of what we do depends on how Shanny really feels about Jason Campbell, and I don't think anyone outside of the organization knows that.

Colt McCoy's pro-day is today. I wonder if Shanny will be there. I want NO part of that guy. I'd probably rather have Pike or Lefevour.
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Even if Bradford were to drop to us, I believe he would use the QB position and try to leverage it with us to get a good payday. He may also believe Washington will pay more simply because of the different FO's and ownership. I certainly don't think Washington would ever see a holdout, but the Rams could.

I also think the Rams will want a deal done pre-draft, if Bradford seriously wants to wait that could help him drop. Not necessarily to us though, because Mike Holmgrem might jump up for Bradford.
What would be crazy is if we end up drafting Bradford, trade or not, and then he holds out for big $ (the qb reasoning you mention). Wouldn't it be something if the skins actually refused to pay a big name player what he & his agent demanded & a long holdout ensued?

I don't see any holdouts being too long this year though. With the uncertainty of a CBA & a potential lockout in 2011, any half smart player & agent will get the biggest chunk of change they can this year, even at the expense of some unfavorable terms later in the deal.
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Old 03-31-2010, 12:01 PM   #135
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I seriously doubt that Sam Bradford becomes a Redskin, it's either Clausen or Okung. The Rams will not pass up on this, and the whole theory about Spag losing his job next year if they don't improve is a complete joke. If he doesn't pick Bradford and they still do bad he'll be even more criticized and WILL lose his job.
Now I'm not saying we couldnt get Bradford even if the Rams wanted him, but it's very unlikely and this kid seems like he really wants to be the best which starts with going 1st overall.
Why can't everyone pretend it's January again and talk about how we should get Clausen instead of Bradford because he's more NFL ready.
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