Mayock Thinks Redskins Could Pass on Okung...

Dirtbag59 · 04-09-2010, 04:07 PM

I watched "film" on both Okung and Williams and personally I liked both. The thing that intrigued me about Williams was how quick he was able to move. He recognizes stunts and is actually very strong when he gets locked on. The thing is he still pales in comparison to Okung. Okung simply makes pass blocking look way to easy and all to frequently I saw him throw defenders like rag dolls. Williams freqently protected the QB but seemed to have to put fourth a bit more effort to get the job done.

Okung on the other hand rarely put his QB in a position to worry, it was amazing how much more time Robinson had to throw then Jones/Bradford. If we want more picks then I think it would be best to trade existing players. Trading down from the fourth with our QB situation handled isn't worth the risk with a guy like Okung available to us.

However in a universe run by Madden having Okung at LT and Williams at RT would be unbelieveable. I also believe that Williams could easily become the best Guard in the game if he ever moved there.

tryfuhl · 04-09-2010, 04:58 PM

thanks for posting those

I see what that guy meant about Okung looking like he's playing on tile when he hits the second level, but otherwise he looks pretty solid.. could have a better push on the runs and could deal with the 2nd move better when he doesn't lock the guy up, could def be a good addition here.. will check out Williams in a bit

$xxyRxxy · 04-09-2010, 05:05 PM

The risk is too high with Williams. He's got the potential to be a major bust. Maybe Okung won't be any better than he is now but you know what you're getting, and that's a guy who can anchor the line for 10 plus years

tryfuhl · 04-10-2010, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

It's interesting that he's comparing Williams to Bushrod since Bushrod is a guy we've reportedly been actively in discussions about

I was thinking the same thing

Mechanix544 · 04-12-2010, 10:29 AM

with shannys knack for turning out gems of lineman, I think williams could be a brilliant pickup, and if it nets us a second, and possibly a starter, then I think it could be the right decision.

johno · 04-12-2010, 10:32 AM

this is all great stuff, thanks for all of the links, videos etc. well written articles and discussion all the way around. my gut tells me go with the more sure thing with Okung.

BigHairedAristocrat · 04-12-2010, 01:46 PM

How about we pass on both and trade Haynesworth for Bushrod?

tryfuhl · 04-12-2010, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mechanix544

with shannys knack for turning out gems of lineman, I think williams could be a brilliant pickup, and if it nets us a second, and possibly a starter, then I think it could be the right decision.

hopefully Foerster is as good as Gibbs and Dennison

tryfuhl · 04-12-2010, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

How about we pass on both and trade Haynesworth for Bushrod?

If we did that why would we have to pass on one of them?

Bushrod at LT, trade down in 1st.. pick up OL and DE or NT

Dirtbag59 · 04-12-2010, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tryfuhl

If we did that why would we have to pass on one of them?

Bushrod at LT, trade down in 1st.. pick up OL and DE or NT

If we keep loading up on offensive players in the draft and by trading away our defensive players we're going to find Mike Shanahan with the same problems that got him fired in Denver.

tryfuhl · 04-12-2010, 11:35 PM

Yeah it seems like they're the only ones that've come up in trade talks. Then again who would want anyone from our offense?

Beemnseven · 04-13-2010, 07:02 AM

What are the chances that both Detroit and the Bucs snap up the best two O-tackles right before us?

johno · 04-13-2010, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Beemnseven

What are the chances that both Detroit and the Bucs snap up the best two O-tackles right before us?

I would say slim, that would mean that they would have both passed on Suh. I dont see that as very likely. I guess it's certainly possible.

CRedskinsRule · 04-13-2010, 07:21 AM

^^ as far as I've seen, Tampa is definitely taking one of the two top DT's, so for a OT to go at # 3 would mean that someone traded up to get in front of us.
I still say Detroit will take a DT, and when they got Simms, that strengthened my impression because Backus is a solid OT, who they would have moved to Guard. Now they would push him to a backup position. However, a lot of mocks have them taking Okung.
All that assumes that St. Louis takes Bradford.

diehardskin2982 · 04-13-2010, 07:48 AM

If we traded Haynesworth and Carter to the Lions to obtain the second pick do we take Suh & Okung? or still try to trade down with the 4th pick? I like any option that would land us Eric Berry, I gotta a feeling that kid is going to be special.

04-09-2010, 04:07 PM	#46
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 27 Posts: 13,978	Re: Mayock Thinks Redskins Could Pass on Okung... I watched "film" on both Okung and Williams and personally I liked both. The thing that intrigued me about Williams was how quick he was able to move. He recognizes stunts and is actually very strong when he gets locked on. The thing is he still pales in comparison to Okung. Okung simply makes pass blocking look way to easy and all to frequently I saw him throw defenders like rag dolls. Williams freqently protected the QB but seemed to have to put fourth a bit more effort to get the job done. Okung on the other hand rarely put his QB in a position to worry, it was amazing how much more time Robinson had to throw then Jones/Bradford. If we want more picks then I think it would be best to trade existing players. Trading down from the fourth with our QB situation handled isn't worth the risk with a guy like Okung available to us. However in a universe run by Madden having Okung at LT and Williams at RT would be unbelieveable. I also believe that Williams could easily become the best Guard in the game if he ever moved there. __________________ Flacco is 1337 Fanclub President

04-09-2010, 04:58 PM	#47
tryfuhl Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Waldorf, MD Age: 29 Posts: 12,512	Re: Mayock Thinks Redskins Could Pass on Okung... thanks for posting those I see what that guy meant about Okung looking like he's playing on tile when he hits the second level, but otherwise he looks pretty solid.. could have a better push on the runs and could deal with the 2nd move better when he doesn't lock the guy up, could def be a good addition here.. will check out Williams in a bit

04-09-2010, 05:05 PM	#48
$xxyRxxy Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 4	Re: Mayock Thinks Redskins Could Pass on Okung... The risk is too high with Williams. He's got the potential to be a major bust. Maybe Okung won't be any better than he is now but you know what you're getting, and that's a guy who can anchor the line for 10 plus years

04-12-2010, 10:29 AM	#50
Mechanix544 The Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Fort Bliss, TX Posts: 2,048	Re: Mayock Thinks Redskins Could Pass on Okung... with shannys knack for turning out gems of lineman, I think williams could be a brilliant pickup, and if it nets us a second, and possibly a starter, then I think it could be the right decision. __________________ Ain't Nothin Like a Good B Western. YEEHAW

04-12-2010, 10:32 AM	#51
johno Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southwest, DC Posts: 599	Re: Mayock Thinks Redskins Could Pass on Okung... this is all great stuff, thanks for all of the links, videos etc. well written articles and discussion all the way around. my gut tells me go with the more sure thing with Okung. __________________ fight for old dc.

04-12-2010, 01:46 PM	#52
BigHairedAristocrat Playmaker Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 3,813	Re: Mayock Thinks Redskins Could Pass on Okung... How about we pass on both and trade Haynesworth for Bushrod? __________________ Dolphins get good press for saving drowning humans.But we only hear about the swimmers theyve pushed ashore.You know who we havent heard from: all the people theyve pushed out to sea.Dolphins dont know what theyre doing-they just like pushing things.

04-12-2010, 11:35 PM	#56
tryfuhl Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Waldorf, MD Age: 29 Posts: 12,512	Re: Mayock Thinks Redskins Could Pass on Okung... Yeah it seems like they're the only ones that've come up in trade talks. Then again who would want anyone from our offense?

04-13-2010, 07:02 AM	#57
Beemnseven Fighting off The Crazies Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 39 Posts: 5,280	Re: Mayock Thinks Redskins Could Pass on Okung... What are the chances that both Detroit and the Bucs snap up the best two O-tackles right before us?

04-13-2010, 07:21 AM	#59
CRedskinsRule MVP Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Pasadena, Md Age: 45 Posts: 11,026	Re: Mayock Thinks Redskins Could Pass on Okung... ^^ as far as I've seen, Tampa is definitely taking one of the two top DT's, so for a OT to go at # 3 would mean that someone traded up to get in front of us. I still say Detroit will take a DT, and when they got Simms, that strengthened my impression because Backus is a solid OT, who they would have moved to Guard. Now they would push him to a backup position. However, a lot of mocks have them taking Okung. All that assumes that St. Louis takes Bradford.

04-13-2010, 07:48 AM	#60
diehardskin2982 What will Shanny do this offseason? Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 2,925	Re: Mayock Thinks Redskins Could Pass on Okung... If we traded Haynesworth and Carter to the Lions to obtain the second pick do we take Suh & Okung? or still try to trade down with the 4th pick? I like any option that would land us Eric Berry, I gotta a feeling that kid is going to be special. __________________ Let's win games now...PLEASE

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