Day 2, rds 2 & 3.

Slingin Sammy 33 · 04-23-2010, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by diehard

I'm with you on the "don't trade to draft Clausen" stance but, I think right now we're a better team keeping Campbell, Haynesworth, and McIntosh. They all have issues that can be worked out eventually.

If Campbell sits for a year learning from KS and McNabb, he'll be a UFA next year and he'll be valued as a starting QB more.

McIntosh is just bitter because he has earned an extension and hasn't gotten it, yet. He too will be valued as a starting LB if he plays for this one year tender and becomes a UFA.

Haynesworth wasn't gonna come to voluntary workouts regardless of who's coaching the team, or where he played.

Now, as far as Clausen goes (or any player that's high on the Skins board right now who continues to slip deeper in to round 2 or lower) there's a possibility of trading next year's 'first' or JC/Rocky/AH and a lower pick (2nd rounder or lower) next year to be able to draft that guy. Again this player has to be ranked very high on their board and has fallen into the 2nd or 3rd round today.

If these guys just stay with their 1 yr. tenders and are UFAs next year, how does that help us? They go into the open market and we get nothing for them. Or they become more valuable and we have to pay more to keep them.

Lotus · 04-23-2010, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

The only moves I would like to see is JC to someone for a 3rd or high 4th, and possibly Rocky for a 4th. Otherwise, I'm ok with standing pat.

This, except I would be up for trading AH following this advice:

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Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

SS mentioned that's what the FO was working on, but a 7th certainly isn't value. I'm not letting AH go for less than a 2nd & 3rd this year or a 2nd this year and a 2nd next year. The guy is an impact player and one of the top DTs in football, for 66% of the defensive snaps each season.

SFREDSKIN · 04-23-2010, 11:25 AM

If they decide to trade AH I would seek a trade with the Rams for the 33rd pick (1st 2nd round pick) and either their 3rd or 4th rounder.

Slingin Sammy 33 · 04-23-2010, 11:26 AM

I read the Peter King article, as fun as he is to hate, it's a good article. His point about McDaniels/Tebow is 100% spot-on.

I really would love to see Clausen go to Minn at 34. Great situation for him. Excellent OL, Excellent RB, quality WRs, Excellent D. He'll likely have a year to sit behind Favre and is leverage for the Vikes if Favre plays his yearly "should I stay or should I go" routine.

tootergray34 · 04-23-2010, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

If they decide to trade AH I would seek a trade with the Rams for the 33rd pick (1st 2nd round pick) and either their 3rd or 4th rounder.

that'd be sweeeeeeeet.

BigHairedAristocrat · 04-23-2010, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

SS mentioned that's what the FO was working on, but a 7th certainly isn't value. I'm not letting AH go for less than a 2nd & 3rd this year or a 2nd this year and a 2nd next year. The guy is an impact player and one of the top DTs in football, for 66% of the defensive snaps each season.

Smoot said a team interested in AH was only offering a 7th round pick? I didn't see that anywhere and i find a hard time to believe thats true. i must have misunderstood your post. could you clarify?

CRedskinsRule · 04-23-2010, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Smoot said a team interested in AH was only offering a 7th round pick? I didn't see that anywhere and i find a hard time to believe thats true. i must have misunderstood your post. could you clarify?

doughtydoubter had said he would give up AH for a 7th round pick. That is what the response was about.

BigHairedAristocrat · 04-23-2010, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

doughtydoubter had said he would give up AH for a 7th round pick. That is what the response was about.

wow. that's the retarded thing i've read in a long time.

KI Skins Fan · 04-23-2010, 12:03 PM

Are you guys sure that it is within the rules to trade players for picks while the draft is being conducted? I ask because I can't recall seeing that happen.

Or, would this be a case where a deal is agreed to and the original team on the clock would select a player for the team with which they are dealing and then the trade would be made after the draft is concluded?

To answer the OP's question, if a player or players the Skins really want slips from second or third round to the fourth or fifth round, then I'd hope that the Skins would try to deal JC and/or Rocky for a fourth or fifth round pick to get the player(s) they want. I say that because it seems clear that JC and Rocky are not in the Skins' plans as starters.

Monkeydad · 04-23-2010, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Are you guys sure that it is within the rules to trade players for picks while the draft is being conducted? I ask because I can't recall seeing that happen.

Or, would this be a case where a deal is agreed to and the original team on the clock would select a player for the team with which they are dealing and then the trade would be made after the draft is concluded?

Yes. The Chargers sent the Broncos a LB in a draft trade last night.

Chargers receive:
» First-round pick (No. 12):
Ryan Mathews
» Fourth-round pick (No. 110)
» Sixth-round pick (No. 173)

Dolphins receive:
» Linebacker Tim Dobbins
» First-round pick (No. 28):
Jared Odrick
» Second-round pick (No. 40)
» Fourth-round pick (No. 126)

I can't believe now many trades the Broncos did last night!

I am hoping that's us today and we can pick up some 2nd and/or 3rd-round choices.

KI Skins Fan · 04-23-2010, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Buster

Yes. The Chargers sent the Broncos a LB in a draft trade last night.

Chargers receive:
» First-round pick (No. 12):
Ryan Mathews
» Fourth-round pick (No. 110)
» Sixth-round pick (No. 173)

Dolphins receive:
» Linebacker Tim Dobbins
» First-round pick (No. 28):
Jared Odrick
» Second-round pick (No. 40)
» Fourth-round pick (No. 126)

I can't believe now many trades the Broncos did last night!

I am hoping that's us today and we can pick up some 2nd and/or 3rd-round choices.

Thanks, Buster.

Monkeydad · 04-23-2010, 12:16 PM

Haynesworth is staying for sure now.

The Lions and Titans were interested and both selected D-Linemen. Also, Fisher said outright that the talks about Big Al are over.

SkinsfanNTX · 04-23-2010, 12:20 PM

How about trading Haynesworth, McIntosh, and Campbell for 2011 picks. A team will give up a second rounder in '11 for Haynesworth, they could probably get a fourth for McIntosh and Campbell could be had for a fifth. If we can get some picks for next year's draft it would give us more ammo to make trades to build our team in Shanahan's image for the future.

Monkeydad · 04-23-2010, 12:23 PM

Miss my post? The two teams interested in Hayesworth are no longer interested.

He's staying...as he should. Haynesworth is an anchor for the defense. Opponents have to double-team him. If they don't, they're in trouble. However, when they do, they can't also double-team Orakpo. One of the other gets through most plays.

Longtimefan · 04-23-2010, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

If they decide to trade AH I would seek a trade with the Rams for the 33rd pick (1st 2nd round pick) and either their 3rd or 4th rounder.

Jason Reid blogging for Redskins Insider & the WashPost finally after about 20 blogs to the contrary over a six week span, admitted this morning that Albert Haynesworth is no longer on the trading block. It was clear that if the decision to trade him was made, it would be for no less than a 1st round pick.

In essence, they had no real desire to trade him because they knew it would be highly unlikely any team was going to give up a first for him.

I kidd Jason that I'm still interested in that property he knows for sale in Arizona for anyone who though the Redskins had no intention of trading him.

04-23-2010, 11:25 AM	#18
SFREDSKIN Pro Bowl Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 6,504	Re: Day 2, rds 2 & 3. If they decide to trade AH I would seek a trade with the Rams for the 33rd pick (1st 2nd round pick) and either their 3rd or 4th rounder. __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

04-23-2010, 11:26 AM	#19
Slingin Sammy 33 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 4,202	Re: Day 2, rds 2 & 3. I read the Peter King article, as fun as he is to hate, it's a good article. His point about McDaniels/Tebow is 100% spot-on. I really would love to see Clausen go to Minn at 34. Great situation for him. Excellent OL, Excellent RB, quality WRs, Excellent D. He'll likely have a year to sit behind Favre and is leverage for the Vikes if Favre plays his yearly "should I stay or should I go" routine. __________________ ...[If] an angel fairy came down and said, '[You can have anything]....you would like to own,' I wouldn't be surprised if you said a football club and particularly the Washington Redskins.'' — Jack Kent Cooke, 1996.

04-23-2010, 12:03 PM	#24
KI Skins Fan The Starter Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: MD Eastern Shore Posts: 1,297	Re: Day 2, rds 2 & 3. Are you guys sure that it is within the rules to trade players for picks while the draft is being conducted? I ask because I can't recall seeing that happen. Or, would this be a case where a deal is agreed to and the original team on the clock would select a player for the team with which they are dealing and then the trade would be made after the draft is concluded? To answer the OP's question, if a player or players the Skins really want slips from second or third round to the fourth or fifth round, then I'd hope that the Skins would try to deal JC and/or Rocky for a fourth or fifth round pick to get the player(s) they want. I say that because it seems clear that JC and Rocky are not in the Skins' plans as starters.

04-23-2010, 12:16 PM	#27
Monkeydad Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 34 Posts: 14,884	Re: Day 2, rds 2 & 3. Haynesworth is staying for sure now. The Lions and Titans were interested and both selected D-Linemen. Also, Fisher said outright that the talks about Big Al are over. __________________ Not sent from a Droid, iPhone, Blackberry or toaster

04-23-2010, 12:20 PM	#28
SkinsfanNTX Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: West Texas Posts: 72	Re: Day 2, rds 2 & 3. How about trading Haynesworth, McIntosh, and Campbell for 2011 picks. A team will give up a second rounder in '11 for Haynesworth, they could probably get a fourth for McIntosh and Campbell could be had for a fifth. If we can get some picks for next year's draft it would give us more ammo to make trades to build our team in Shanahan's image for the future. __________________ “Of a very religious linebacker: He knocks the hell out of people, but in a Christian way.” "Slingin" Sammy Baugh

04-23-2010, 12:23 PM	#29
Monkeydad Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 34 Posts: 14,884	Re: Day 2, rds 2 & 3. Miss my post? The two teams interested in Hayesworth are no longer interested. He's staying...as he should. Haynesworth is an anchor for the defense. Opponents have to double-team him. If they don't, they're in trouble. However, when they do, they can't also double-team Orakpo. One of the other gets through most plays. __________________ Not sent from a Droid, iPhone, Blackberry or toaster

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