Day 2, rds 2 & 3.

tootergray34 · 04-23-2010, 12:29 PM

I'm sure skins FO is frantically on the phone trying to move up. At least this is what JLC believes to be true.

Monkeydad · 04-23-2010, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by tootergray34

I'm sure skins FO is frantically on the phone trying to move up. At least this is what JLC believes to be true.

I trust him, he was on top of things last night.

SFREDSKIN · 04-23-2010, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Longtimefan

Jason Reid blogging for Redskins Insider & the WashPost finally after about 20 blogs to the contrary over a six week span, admitted this morning that Albert Haynesworth is no longer on the trading block. It was clear that if the decision to trade him was made, it would be for no less than a 1st round pick.

In essence, they had no real desire to trade him because they knew it would be highly unlikely any team was going to give up a first for him.

I kidd Jason that I'm still interested in that property he knows for sale in Arizona for anyone who though the Redskins had no intention of trading him.

Good. I wouldn't trade him just to trade him and give him away. The FO will have patch things up with him.

Longtimefan · 04-23-2010, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tootergray34

I'm sure skins FO is frantically on the phone trying to move up. At least this is what JLC believes to be true.

Move up to where to do what?.......Exactly!

Longtimefan · 04-23-2010, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Good. I wouldn't trade him just to trade him and give him away. The FO will have patch things up with him.

I think they will. It would be the right thing to do after all we've invested in him. I'm reasonably sure the decision on Haynesworth was ultimately made by the man who had just paid him 21 mil.$ on the 1st of April.

BigHairedAristocrat · 04-23-2010, 12:48 PM

I agree with that, unless we traded him for a pick in 2011, which just wouldnt make sense. Our best option is to keep him, hope he gets in line and plays well in the scheme. if he doesnt, we can try to trade him next year.

KLHJ2 · 04-23-2010, 12:59 PM

I've been thinking that the only 2 teams that need a veteran QB or a QB of the future are Oakland and Buffalo. They sit at 41 and 39 respectively and still have their entire draft to work with if they want to jump to snatch one. Both Claussen and McCoy are still available. This leads me to believe both teams are going to get their QB and it is not necessary to trade with us to get JC.

Sorry, but I do not think that there is going to be a trade partner willing to give us what we want for JC even if someone was interested. Looks like he will be cut or backing up McNabb this year. More than likely it will be the latter.

Dirtbag59 · 04-23-2010, 01:01 PM

I thought that with the QB's falling that it would be harder to move JC but it still seems like it's a sellers market for QB's, at least in terms of getting SOMETHING.

Who wants Jimmy?

34. Minnesota Vikings: Franchise QB of the future?
36. Kansas City Chiefs: Former ND head coach Charlie Weis is he new offensive coordinator.
38. Cleveland Browns: Lot of smoke-screens emanating from Mike Holmgren; how much does he really like Jimmy?
39. Oakland Raiders: Passed on a QB in the first, but still need one.
41. Buffalo Bills: Like the Raiders, still need a new QB.
48. Carolina Panthers: Belief now is that they might make a play for Colt McCoy; could target Clausen for similar reasons.
49. San Francisco 49ers: It was thought he wouldn't get past the Niners in the first. Will they move up to snag him now?

They can't all end up with Clausen and McCoy.

Also can we take a moment to appreciate the 49ers line? If you wanted to know how the JC experiment would have gone by just loading up on O-Lineman then watch San Fran this year with Alex Smith. Still it's easily going to be the best line in the league in a year or two. Also keep in mind that I said a few years ago that the Jets would have the best line in the league after they drafted Nick Mangold and Fergusion.

Anyway here's the 49ers line as it stands right now.

LT - Joe Staley - One of the better LT's in the league.
LG - Mike Iupati - I hate his holding habits but he's still got the skillset to succeed in this league at a high level
C- Eric Heitmann - Savy vet thats not spectacular but solid.
RG - Chilo Rachel - Former 2nd round pick. Has been somewhat of a disapointment so far but still has the talent to succeed. Maybe now he'll play better being part of a better offensive front.
RT - Anthony Davis - He had great potential as a LT, but as a RT...wow.

Oh yeah, they also have Barry Sims, Adam Snyder, David Bass, and the guy they liked from Ohio State (Alex Boone) as backups.

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I agree with that, unless we traded him for a pick in 2011, which just wouldnt make sense. Our best option is to keep him, hope he gets in line and plays well in the scheme. if he doesnt, we can try to trade him next year.

Trading away 2011 picks MIGHT not be the worst idea. I'm hearing that next years class will be weak because a lot of the best players came out for this draft thanks to pending labor negotiations. And at the same time I'm hearing that this is the best draft to come along in a while.

Longtimefan · 04-23-2010, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I agree with that, unless we traded him for a pick in 2011, which just wouldnt make sense. Our best option is to keep him, hope he gets in line and plays well in the scheme. if he doesnt, we can try to trade him next year.

Yes!! And with the prospect of a lockout to begin the 2011 season, we'll have plenty of time to try and figure out what to do with him.

Actuall I think it's going to be a moot point because I believe Haynesworth will come to camp in much better shape than last year and make a major impact on the defense.

KLHJ2 · 04-23-2010, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

I thought that with the QB's falling that it would be harder to move JC but it still seems like it's a sellers market for QB's, at least in terms of getting SOMETHING.

Who wants Jimmy?

34. Minnesota Vikings: Franchise QB of the future?
36. Kansas City Chiefs: Former ND head coach Charlie Weis is he new offensive coordinator.
38. Cleveland Browns: Lot of smoke-screens emanating from Mike Holmgren; how much does he really like Jimmy?
39. Oakland Raiders: Passed on a QB in the first, but still need one.
41. Buffalo Bills: Like the Raiders, still need a new QB.
48. Carolina Panthers: Belief now is that they might make a play for Colt McCoy; could target Clausen for similar reasons.
49. San Francisco 49ers: It was thought he wouldn't get past the Niners in the first. Will they move up to snag him now?

They can't all end up with Clausen and McCoy.

Also can we take a moment to appreciate the 49ers line? If you wanted to know how the JC experiment would have gone by just loading up on O-LIneman then watch San Fran this year with Alex Smith. Still it's easily going to be the best line in the league in a year or two. Also keep in mind that I said a few years ago that the Jets would have the best line in the league after they drafted Nick Mangold and Fergusion.

Anyway here's the 49ers line as it stands right now.

LT - Joe Staley - One of the better LT's in the league.
LG - Mike Iupati - I hate his holding habits but he's still got the skillset to succeed in this league at a high level
C- Eric Heitmann - Savy vet thats not spectacular but solid.
RG - Chilo Rachel - Former 2nd round pick. Has been somewhat of a disapointment so far but still has the talent to succeed. Maybe now he'll play better being part of a better offensive front.
RT - Anthony Davis - He had great potential as a LT, but as a RT...wow.

Sure, most of these teams might want a QB but as I see it only 2 of them really need a QB.

Minnesota has TJ who has started for them before and possibly would have won the starting job had Favre not returned.

KC just spent all of that money on Matt Cassell and have yet to invest in his protection.

The Browns much like us have bought themselves some time by signing Jake Delhome

The Carolina Panthers believe that they have something in Matt Moore, otherwise why release Delhome. Don't feed m the Uncapped year BS there is more to it than that.

San Fran still has some faith in Alex Smith and they are going to give him another year to show up. Besides they have already passed on a QB yesterday.

So like I said, only Oakland and Buffalo truly need a QB. Truly only Oakland really needs one but Buffalo is the close second to the "need" category.

freddyg12 · 04-23-2010, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

If these guys just stay with their 1 yr. tenders and are UFAs next year, how does that help us? They go into the open market and we get nothing for them. Or they become more valuable and we have to pay more to keep them.

If the next CBA still has compensatory picks, then we'd get picks for them.

BigHairedAristocrat · 04-23-2010, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by tootergray34

I'm sure skins FO is frantically on the phone trying to move up. At least this is what JLC believes to be true.

link?

freddyg12 · 04-23-2010, 01:18 PM

IF they really like Clausen, McCoy or Lefevor (sp?) then it's worth it to make a deal to nab them even if we don't get "value" for AH. If they really feel one of these guys could be the qb of the future, I think you make the deal.

I thought Gibbs' trade for JC was a good one. Sure, it didn't pan out that JC is a franchise qb, but the price of getting a qb of the future is worth it because you need to have one in place to prepare asap. Unless that guy is C. Brennan & they don't want to re-sign JC, then I'm sure they're still looking at the qb's in this draft.

SmootSmack · 04-23-2010, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Buster

Haynesworth is staying for sure now.

The Lions and Titans were interested and both selected D-Linemen. Also, Fisher said outright that the talks about Big Al are over.

There were other teams interested, and at least one still is. I think we should know by 7pm

CRedskinsRule · 04-23-2010, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

There were other teams interested, and at least one still is. I think we should know by 7pm

7pm? 7minute rounds, so it's in the top 8 of the round? are you gonna start posting song titles to help us figure it out?

04-23-2010, 12:29 PM	#31
tootergray34 Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 681	Re: Day 2, rds 2 & 3. I'm sure skins FO is frantically on the phone trying to move up. At least this is what JLC believes to be true.

04-23-2010, 12:48 PM	#36
BigHairedAristocrat Playmaker Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 3,812	Re: Day 2, rds 2 & 3. I agree with that, unless we traded him for a pick in 2011, which just wouldnt make sense. Our best option is to keep him, hope he gets in line and plays well in the scheme. if he doesnt, we can try to trade him next year. __________________ Dolphins get good press for saving drowning humans.But we only hear about the swimmers theyve pushed ashore.You know who we havent heard from: all the people theyve pushed out to sea.Dolphins dont know what theyre doing-they just like pushing things.

04-23-2010, 12:59 PM	#37
KLHJ2 Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: DC Metro Area Age: 34 Posts: 5,823	Re: Day 2, rds 2 & 3. I've been thinking that the only 2 teams that need a veteran QB or a QB of the future are Oakland and Buffalo. They sit at 41 and 39 respectively and still have their entire draft to work with if they want to jump to snatch one. Both Claussen and McCoy are still available. This leads me to believe both teams are going to get their QB and it is not necessary to trade with us to get JC. Sorry, but I do not think that there is going to be a trade partner willing to give us what we want for JC even if someone was interested. Looks like he will be cut or backing up McNabb this year. More than likely it will be the latter. __________________ Read "The Book", life will gain meaning.

04-23-2010, 01:18 PM	#43
freddyg12 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,540	Re: Day 2, rds 2 & 3. IF they really like Clausen, McCoy or Lefevor (sp?) then it's worth it to make a deal to nab them even if we don't get "value" for AH. If they really feel one of these guys could be the qb of the future, I think you make the deal. I thought Gibbs' trade for JC was a good one. Sure, it didn't pan out that JC is a franchise qb, but the price of getting a qb of the future is worth it because you need to have one in place to prepare asap. Unless that guy is C. Brennan & they don't want to re-sign JC, then I'm sure they're still looking at the qb's in this draft.

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