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Old 04-23-2010, 02:05 PM   #76
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Re: Day 2, rds 2 & 3.

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Who said anything about Carolina? Kelly isn't really on the market. He was only in brief discussions for Marshall, but they're not shopping him around. Campbell isn't likely to get us more than a 6th at this point
Ok, so its not Carolina (they were the only 4-3 team picking around 8PM so that was my guess). I only mentioned Campbell and Kelly because Carolina also needs a WR and QB. Figured maybe we could package them all together and get something worthwhile. Glad to hear the Kelly talk isnt serious any more. I have high hopes for him.
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Re: Day 2, rds 2 & 3.

gotta start stocking picks for next year and doing something we normally do...build through the draft.
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Old 04-23-2010, 02:08 PM   #78
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Colt Brennan is better than Clausen, so we don't need to draft him. also, I would trade Haynesworth in a NY minute if we could get a 2nd and 3rd round pick for him. But TN doesn't want him, so I doubt if we can get anything of value for him. WE're stuck with the 3 picks we have left.
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yeah but towards the end of the round? I'd say a 2nd this year and a
2nd in 2011 would be better.
I dont know if i'd want a future 2nd from the Saints. If we sent them Haynesworth, we'd only be making the best team in the NFL better in 2010... so the 2011 2nd rounder would probably be close to the bottom of the round. Add to that the devaluation of future picks, combined with the significantly weaker draft class in 2011 and the Saints 2010 3rd rounder has MUCH more value than their 2011 2nd.
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gotta start stocking picks for next year and doing something we normally do...build through the draft.
Is there going to be a next year?
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That would be like a 3rd and a 4th. Just say No!! unless Jaamal Brown is also included.
Keep in mind this is a very deep draft so it's possible that a late 3rd is more like a mid third and a late 4th in a mid 4th. Sort of like how the guys at the top of the 2nd round right now essentially have 1st round picks. I want to go on record now as saying that the Skins 4th round pick will be Montario Hardesty for two reasons. One he visited and two:
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He does have durability problems though and there is a part of me that still thinks that 4th round pick will be a QB but we'll see.
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Vikes still have Sage don't they?
Valid point. Forgot about him. I'm not sure he is their QB of the future either though??? I'd think of him more of a stop gap too. I mean, he worked out well in Washington didn't he?
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Um Kindle? What am I Smootstradamus?
Doesn't Miami have a top 8 tonight, and it's AFC East, and I would like to get one over on Bill Parcells, so I was hoping maybe we were doing something with them
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yeah but towards the end of the round? I'd say a 2nd this year and a
2nd in 2011 would be better.
It's a deep draft, there are quality guys through the entire 3rd in my opinion.
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Colt Brennan is better than Clausen, so we don't need to draft him. also, I would trade Haynesworth in a NY minute if we could get a 2nd and 3rd round pick for him. But TN doesn't want him, so I doubt if we can get anything of value for him. WE're stuck with the 3 picks we have left.
colt brennan > clausen? really?
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There is a up date on that Saints would part with Patrick Robinson[thier 1st round pick] and a 2nd or 3rd for big Al. I know this could be made up stuff but ESPN said there is some kind of talks going on between the Skins and Saints!
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Doesn't Miami have a top 8 tonight, and it's AFC East, and I would like to get one over on Bill Parcells, so I was hoping maybe we were doing something with them
Haha....no
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Haha....no
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Haha....no
Maybe we could trade for CJ Spiller. Then draft Jevan Snead in the 4th and John Skelton in the 5th.
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I disagree.

The Vikes have given TJ a shot and he did not keep the job. That's why they got Favre. I don't see him being a solution for a long term starter at QB in the eyes of the Vikings. Drafting Clausen #34 and giving him a year behind Favre and then turning it over to him with an already well established offense would be an ideal situation for them IMO.

I think the Browns signed Jake Delhome as a very temporary stop gap. It seems the best plan would be to draft a QB in this draft. Let me learn behind Jake for a season, or half a season if he falters early on, and then turn it over. I would feel much safer with Campbell as an option than Delhome.

The Panthers got rid of Delhome because he sucks, not b/c they have sooo much confidence in Moore IMO. I would feel safer about having Moore and Campbell instead of Moore by himself, who is an unproven players with the exception of a few good starts in relief.

I feel like there is a good enough market to move Campbell. I feel it would be best for him and the Redskins. I just hope it happens sooner rather than later in the 2nd round. HTTR.
1. TJ did not lose his job, the Vikings upgraded the position. Once HOF legend Favre finally retires it is TJ's team again.

2. My definition of stop gap is different from yours. I believe that stop gap is a one year thing. I believe that Delhome has solidified the QB position in Cleveland for possibly 2-4 years.

3. Delhome does not necessarily suck, he had a bad year and got hurt in the middle of it. If he sucked then the Panthers would not have given him that fat contract right before last season. The Panthers obviously believe that based on performance that Moore has the potential to be as good as Delhome. Given that he is younger, cheaper, and the fact that it is an uncapped year it just made sense to release Delhome without a penalty.

4. There is a market to move Campbell but we would have to accept far less than what he is really worth. In my mind he is worth a late 3rd or early to mid 4th. Right now the market is trying to dictate more like a late 4th early 5th.
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