2011 NFL Draft

redskins5044 · 12-16-2010, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Texanskin

I hear you.....I am concered because we are limited in our number of picks this year (1st, 2nd, 5th, 6th)...not addressing the OL (our most glaring need) is risky. If the talent pool is limited with OL...then draft one in the 1st round at least. It is hard for me to watch our OL suck every game for us NOT to address it....but i will concede my point IF and only IF there are NO steller OL when we pick (other than LT). I believe we may fall right in the middle of the pack (10-21) because we can only get to 10-6 after winning the rest of our games........ok im done....just have to wait and see now.

i think we have six picks this year.

1st
2nd
5th
5th From Saints in Brown trade.
6th
7th

The Saints will get our 3rd pick for Brown and Eagles will get the 4th. Still not enough picks to build a team with young talent. Maybe if we can trade one or our TE's we could get a 3rd or 4th for one of them. Not many tradeable players on our team. IMO the only players that other teams may want are Cooley, Davis, Laundry, Orakpo, Trent Williams.

Chico23231 · 12-20-2010, 03:03 PM

Looking at the upcoming crop of prospects, gotta say this is a down year for holding a top half 1st round draft pick. I see 1 great QB who probably wont come out. 2 really good CBs and 2 really good DTs(neither who would be NTs). Got 2 pretty good WRs...a pretty good DE outta Clemson. No top OL guys or RB prospects. A bunch of overrated UNC players coming out who have already been paid one way or another. I think Hightower the LB from Alabama or Pouncy the Guard for Florida are underrated....

What does everyone think? Bad year for talent? I see not alot of "wow" guys like I saw last year...I think it will be better to trade outta our position and grab mulitples picks, but I feel that way 75% regardless

freddyg12 · 12-20-2010, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

Looking at the upcoming crop of prospects, gotta say this is a down year for holding a top half 1st round draft pick. I see 1 great QB who probably wont come out. 2 really good CBs and 2 really good DTs(neither who would be NTs). Got 2 pretty good WRs...a pretty good DE outta Clemson. No top OL guys or RB prospects. A bunch of overrated UNC players coming out who have already been paid one way or another. I think Hightower the LB from Alabama or Pouncy the Guard for Florida are underrated....

What does everyone think? Bad year for talent? I see not alot of "wow" guys like I saw last year...I think it will be better to trade outta our position and grab mulitples picks, but I feel that way 75% regardless

I think your take sounds about right, but there could be a few good qb's in this draft & depending on how early the top 10 teams are willing to draft a qb, there could be Locker & Newton there in the teens. while I'm usually all for dropping back if possible, if Shan. sees a qb he likes this might be the year to do it.

BleedBurgundy · 12-21-2010, 04:27 PM

Interior linemen, por favor. I'm in favor of Pouncey. As far as qb goes... I could be talked into Locker, dead set against Cam Newton. We could also end up trading a pick next year for a player like Flynn in GB, depending on what Shanahan wants to do. In that case, pick up a stud WR with the 1st, Center/Guard with the 2nd and fill needs with the rest.

freddyg12 · 12-21-2010, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

Interior linemen, por favor. I'm in favor of Pouncey. As far as qb goes... I could be talked into Locker, dead set against Cam Newton. We could also end up trading a pick next year for a player like Flynn in GB, depending on what Shanahan wants to do. In that case, pick up a stud WR with the 1st, Center/Guard with the 2nd and fill needs with the rest.

why? character issues? spread O doesn't translate well to nfl?

I'm not sayin he's a sure thing, but he's an intriguing talent.

SkinzWin · 12-21-2010, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by freddyg12

why? character issues? spread O doesn't translate well to nfl?

I'm not sayin he's a sure thing, but he's an intriguing talent.

I think he has enormous upside. Everyone talks bad about him because of that scandal. He did have the best passer rating in college this year didn't he if I'm not mistaken? Not only is he extremely mobile but he has a good arm too. I'm not saying I'm enamored with him but he does have the capability of being a very good QB. That said I'm still sticking with trading for Orton and drafting a Mallet or Ponder type.

Also, let me be heard now. I know some people might knock him, but I would like to give Tyrod Taylor a hard look. I live in Richmond and see all the ACC games locally and he has really impressed me this year. Plus everyone I talk to says he is a leader in the locker room and a tremendously stand up character guy. Plus we could get him later in the draft. Thoughts?

T.O.Killa · 12-21-2010, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by redskins5044

i think we have six picks this year.

1st
2nd
5th
5th From Saints in Brown trade.
6th
7th

The Saints will get our 3rd pick for Brown and Eagles will get the 4th. Still not enough picks to build a team with young talent. Maybe if we can trade one or our TE's we could get a 3rd or 4th for one of them. Not many tradeable players on our team. IMO the only players that other teams may want are Cooley, Davis, Laundry, Orakpo, Trent Williams.

I think we get something for Tryon, from the Colts. Probably there 7th.

SkinzWin · 12-22-2010, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

I think we get something for Tryon, from the Colts. Probably there 7th.

I bet we'll get a real barn burned of a player with that pick.......................

skinsfan57 · 12-22-2010, 11:00 AM

the draft should be used for offensive help first,in the order of QB,RB,offensive line and WR.the defence could be shored up mainly through free agency.bottom line,more team SPEED is needed.

freddyg12 · 12-22-2010, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SkinzWin

I think he has enormous upside. Everyone talks bad about him because of that scandal. He did have the best passer rating in college this year didn't he if I'm not mistaken? Not only is he extremely mobile but he has a good arm too. I'm not saying I'm enamored with him but he does have the capability of being a very good QB. That said I'm still sticking with trading for Orton and drafting a Mallet or Ponder type.

Also, let me be heard now. I know some people might knock him, but I would like to give Tyrod Taylor a hard look. I live in Richmond and see all the ACC games locally and he has really impressed me this year. Plus everyone I talk to says he is a leader in the locker room and a tremendously stand up character guy. Plus we could get him later in the draft. Thoughts?

I'm a Hokie so I would love it if Tyrod got a look from skins scouts. I think it will come down (no pun intended) to his height. If he's under 6' (which I believe the combine will reveal that he is) I don't see many teams getting him to play qb. He is a solid all around guy, the type that Shanahan likes. I could see him playing wr, returning punts & having an ARE type role if nothing else.

skinsfan57 · 12-22-2010, 01:25 PM

I agree they should trade Fred Davis for a draft pick.the rookie TE Paulsen looks like he will be a good player down the road.another option for the draft is taking a RB like Kevin Williams from VT in 1st rd and a QB like Colin Kaepernick from nevada in the 3rd or 4th rd.he's big and fast too.

redsk1 · 12-22-2010, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan57

I agree they should trade Fred Davis for a draft pick.the rookie TE Paulsen looks like he will be a good player down the road.another option for the draft is taking a RB like Kevin Williams from VT in 1st rd and a QB like Colin Kaepernick from nevada in the 3rd or 4th rd.he's big and fast too.

Yeah, i think Davis may be our only tradeable commodity (and Cooley possibly, but i'd prefer not to think about it). I wouldn't expect we'd get more than a 4th, possibly a third if we're lucky. The guys got talent though.

SkinzWin · 12-22-2010, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by freddyg12

I'm a Hokie so I would love it if Tyrod got a look from skins scouts. I think it will come down (no pun intended) to his height. If he's under 6' (which I believe the combine will reveal that he is) I don't see many teams getting him to play qb. He is a solid all around guy, the type that Shanahan likes. I could see him playing wr, returning punts & having an ARE type role if nothing else.

They said the same thing about Drew Brees, and he's been a big disappointment hasn't he?

skinsfaninok · 12-22-2010, 03:24 PM

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SkinzWin · 12-22-2010, 03:56 PM

I'm watching College Football Live right now. They just sold me on wanting to draft Kellen Moore. He got the Boise State play book off the internet and had it memorized BEFORE he went to school there. They said he was teaching OLinemen where to go when he first got there. He is a film rat and his processing and ability to read defenses is faster than just about anyone. Sounds like a Peyton Manning-esque kind of player to me. I am going to be pulling for Shanny to draft him now. I am officially starting the Kellen Moore Mob. Whose with me?

12-20-2010, 03:03 PM	#137
Chico23231 Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 36 Posts: 7,799	Re: 2011 NFL Draft Looking at the upcoming crop of prospects, gotta say this is a down year for holding a top half 1st round draft pick. I see 1 great QB who probably wont come out. 2 really good CBs and 2 really good DTs(neither who would be NTs). Got 2 pretty good WRs...a pretty good DE outta Clemson. No top OL guys or RB prospects. A bunch of overrated UNC players coming out who have already been paid one way or another. I think Hightower the LB from Alabama or Pouncy the Guard for Florida are underrated.... What does everyone think? Bad year for talent? I see not alot of "wow" guys like I saw last year...I think it will be better to trade outta our position and grab mulitples picks, but I feel that way 75% regardless __________________ Ready for the Draft.

12-21-2010, 04:27 PM	#139
BleedBurgundy Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,434	Re: 2011 NFL Draft Interior linemen, por favor. I'm in favor of Pouncey. As far as qb goes... I could be talked into Locker, dead set against Cam Newton. We could also end up trading a pick next year for a player like Flynn in GB, depending on what Shanahan wants to do. In that case, pick up a stud WR with the 1st, Center/Guard with the 2nd and fill needs with the rest. __________________ "All natural institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." Thomas Paine

12-22-2010, 11:00 AM	#144
skinsfan57 Camp Scrub Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Herndon,Virginia Posts: 81	Re: 2011 NFL Draft the draft should be used for offensive help first,in the order of QB,RB,offensive line and WR.the defence could be shored up mainly through free agency.bottom line,more team SPEED is needed.

12-22-2010, 01:25 PM	#146
skinsfan57 Camp Scrub Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Herndon,Virginia Posts: 81	Re: 2011 NFL Draft I agree they should trade Fred Davis for a draft pick.the rookie TE Paulsen looks like he will be a good player down the road.another option for the draft is taking a RB like Kevin Williams from VT in 1st rd and a QB like Colin Kaepernick from nevada in the 3rd or 4th rd.he's big and fast too.

12-22-2010, 03:24 PM	#149
skinsfaninok Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Norman, OK Age: 26 Posts: 12,996	Re: 2011 NFL Draft Ex-NFL scout: Cam Newton is not a 1st round draft pick \| Atlanta Falcons __________________ Robert Griffin III "if you're good at something, never do it for free"- The Joker

12-22-2010, 03:56 PM	#150
SkinzWin Playmaker Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 2,561	Re: 2011 NFL Draft I'm watching College Football Live right now. They just sold me on wanting to draft Kellen Moore. He got the Boise State play book off the internet and had it memorized BEFORE he went to school there. They said he was teaching OLinemen where to go when he first got there. He is a film rat and his processing and ability to read defenses is faster than just about anyone. Sounds like a Peyton Manning-esque kind of player to me. I am going to be pulling for Shanny to draft him now. I am officially starting the Kellen Moore Mob. Whose with me? __________________ Sean Taylor #21 a Redskin forever... Draft winners, not stars. Hail to the Redskins Hail victory Braves on the warpath Block for RG3

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