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Old 12-28-2010, 11:44 PM   #166
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I'm a big Kellan Moore fan too. He's either going to be the next Drew Brees or the next Ty Detmer. It's almost impossible to forecast which one he'll be more akin to.
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Old 12-29-2010, 12:27 AM   #167
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My apologies Dirtbag!! You know I always enjoy your insightful perspective into all that is Redskins. Maybe, just maybe, that's a shot back for your comment about Kellen Moore....
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Old 12-29-2010, 03:13 AM   #168
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If AJ Green drops to us we need to pick this guy up. Our defense at best next year will still be the middle of the pack, and we can't keep scoring 19.2 points a game if we expect to win more the 50% of our games. So we are going to need the weapons on offense.

Torain proved to be a solid RB this year averaging well over 4 yards a carry, and with more weapons like Moss, Green, Armstrong, Davis, Cooley... Even a journeyman like Grossman can look multiple times better then he is.

Thats not including guys like Austin, or Banks who may step up on the WR end next year. I remember Moss being a return guy only, and transformed into a great WR. Same as Steve Smith, and Devin hester who have become solid/good ones as well.

If Green doesn't fall to us then we need to go defense with Marcell Dareus. We need someone else on the Dline who can wreck havok, and help Orakpo and Fletcher make plays.

Ryan Kerrigan is also a beast I would like to see playing for the Skins. Could you imagine Orakpe, Fletcher, Riley, Kerrigan as our LB's? If we are really going the Steeler defense route then it's all about the LB's, and that would be a great move in that direction

I guess we will see what will happen, but I would rather have the great pieces in place for our next QB then putting a QB in now, and building around him.
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If AJ Green drops to us we need to pick this guy up. Our defense at best next year will still be the middle of the pack, and we can't keep scoring 19.2 points a game if we expect to win more the 50% of our games. So we are going to need the weapons on offense.

Torain proved to be a solid RB this year averaging well over 4 yards a carry, and with more weapons like Moss, Green, Armstrong, Davis, Cooley... Even a journeyman like Grossman can look multiple times better then he is.

Thats not including guys like Austin, or Banks who may step up on the WR end next year. I remember Moss being a return guy only, and transformed into a great WR. Same as Steve Smith, and Devin hester who have become solid/good ones as well.

If Green doesn't fall to us then we need to go defense with Marcell Dareus. We need someone else on the Dline who can wreck havok, and help Orakpo and Fletcher make plays.

Ryan Kerrigan is also a beast I would like to see playing for the Skins. Could you imagine Orakpe, Fletcher, Riley, Kerrigan as our LB's? If we are really going the Steeler defense route then it's all about the LB's, and that would be a great move in that direction

I guess we will see what will happen, but I would rather have the great pieces in place for our next QB then putting a QB in now, and building around him.
AJ Green would definitely be an okay pick if he fell to us. However, I'm not sold on us needing an OLB as our first overall pick. If Rob Jackson winds up panning out, which if his practice and first game are any indication we are in good shape, then we need to go with an ILB. We don't have a true big ILB that we need for the 3-4 scheme. Fletcher is doing well but is not going to be playing too much longer and Rocky just isn't cutting the mustard.
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So how do we feel about Ryan Mallet? I've seen a couple of highlight tapes and I'm awestruck by his ability. Especially the jump between this year and last year. To me he's like a hybrid of Joe Flacco and Big Ben. Unfortunately in interviews he doesn't seem to be all there and this is coming from a guy that frequently doesn't look like he's all there. Personally the interview part of the combine is probably going to hurt his stock which he'll probably balance out with a great performance in the drills or throwing at his pro day.



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By the way one more thing this team needs is to use a mid round pick on a running back. I'm sure theres someone graded out in that 4-6 range that could be a healthier version of Torrain.
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Old 12-29-2010, 06:52 PM   #172
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By the way one more thing this team needs is to use a mid round pick on a running back. I'm sure theres someone graded out in that 4-6 range that could be a healthier version of Torrain.
Agreed. I would say Shanny has an okay past in finding late round RB gems.
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Old 12-30-2010, 10:13 AM   #173
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By the way one more thing this team needs is to use a mid round pick on a running back. I'm sure theres someone graded out in that 4-6 range that could be a healthier version of Torrain.

Being a Maryland fan, I know I'm biased, but I really think a guy that could be had late that could turn into a beast is Da'Rel Scott. He reminds me a bit of a poor mans Clinton Portis when he was first drafted. Outstanding speed and quickness, not overly big (5'11" 200lbs) and has some shiftiness. He could probably be had in the late rounds or possibly even as a FA but I feel he'll probably get drafted in the 6-7th round area.
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Agreed. I would say Shanny has an okay past in finding late round RB gems.
I would like a RB pick in the mid round. I think someone already mentioned his name-Noel Devine. I think we need to add speed in the backfield and this guy has it. Great hands out of the backfield and this guy is elusive too. He is in the same mold as a Dexter McCluskter, but I think a better prospect. Devine is a big play talent...I think your looking 3rd-4th round pick at this point.
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So how do we feel about Ryan Mallet? I've seen a couple of highlight tapes and I'm awestruck by his ability. Especially the jump between this year and last year. To me he's like a hybrid of Joe Flacco and Big Ben. Unfortunately in interviews he doesn't seem to be all there and this is coming from a guy that frequently doesn't look like he's all there. Personally the interview part of the combine is probably going to hurt his stock which he'll probably balance out with a great performance in the drills or throwing at his pro day.
I would be very happy if we got Mallet in round 1 and Justin Blackmon in round 2, although I'm not sure Blackmon makes it out of the first round. He's a freakin beast.
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I would be very happy if we got Mallet in round 1 and Justin Blackmon in round 2, although I'm not sure Blackmon makes it out of the first round. He's a freakin beast.
I don't know about Mallet, but I love that kid Blackmon and his teammate Kendall at rb for Okie st. Both of those kids are ballers. Honestly I don't know if I like very many QB's that are coming out this year other than Luck, and it doesn't look like he will be there by the time we pick.
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Do you really want to go the WR route again? It's the most hit or miss position in the draft. Look at Calvin Johnson. Has he made Detroit any better? Nope. They're still a bottom feeder. Gotta get some linemen first.
I think AJ Green is very good. I dont think he is as talented as Calvin Johnson. But his hands are incredible and his run after the catch is really good. I think he is a playmaker and also a great redzone reciever.
I dont see any O-Linemen at our pick...I see a really good DE at Clemson and 2 really good CBs who maybe availible. Overall I dont see great talent in the first half of the draft outside several players.
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Old 12-30-2010, 07:16 PM   #178
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Yeah, I'm not seeing how this QB thing is going to line up for us. Sure, if we want to take Jake Locker in the first round, we'll be able to nab him in the middle of the round. But that wouldn't be much of a pick.

If Luck, Gabbert, and Foles all stay in college, I would avoid a top round QB in this draft just on the strength of the 2012 draft class. If the choices are to pick up Jake Locker and lose a bunch of games, or to lose a bunch of games with Chad Henne/Matt Leinart/Matt Moore/Carson Palmer at QB and possibly be in position to land Andrew Luck in 2012, lets take the latter route.

If Gabbert and Luck both come out this year, next year's draft would appear to be very weak anyway, so then I'd support taking the best available QB in this draft and doing whatever it takes to make him successful.
Yeah, I really dont know outside of Luck a good QB pick in the first. Have you seen Mallet or Locker play this year? I saw both twice...all four games were not impressive. Locker is flat out horrible. Id give Mallet a long look, but his decision making is questionable IMO. Not questionable is his arm...its a cannon. His completion percentage this was higher than I thought it would be...but Id take Mallet over Newton and Locker.
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I think this guy would make an interesting NT (has the size and build) and sure looks good tonight.

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Yeah, I really dont know outside of Luck a good QB pick in the first. Have you seen Mallet or Locker play this year? I saw both twice...all four games were not impressive. Locker is flat out horrible. Id give Mallet a long look, but his decision making is questionable IMO. Not questionable is his arm...its a cannon. His completion percentage this was higher than I thought it would be...but Id take Mallet over Newton and Locker.
Mallett has been really impressive this year. Maybe not more impressive than Jamarcus Russell was in the same conference in 2006, but impressive. He looks the part with the build of a quarterback and displays more than acceptable accuracy. Far from a complete product, though. The danger with Mallett is that he lights up the Ohio State defense at the Sugar Bowl and gets badly overdrafted because of it. You don't want to be stuck with a quarterback who won't make a play with his legs, and not ready to give him the universe in terms of offensive talent to work with.

Really, Luck is less than of a complete product at this point than people want to believe. I'd still take him with the first pick though. A franchise COULD easily screw up Andrew Luck's development -- which would be a shame, but that franchise was just wasting time with that regime anyway. Luck should be a top five type superstar in the NFL.
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