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Old 01-04-2011, 03:57 PM   #271
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Carolina Panthers will not trade from their spot. This is a team 7 years removed and three points added to being Super Bowl champions. They're not as small market as some may think and would want nothing more than to fire John Fox, draft Andrew Luck, trade Jimmy Clausen (would make no sense to keep him around) and get the new era rolling. Sure they have terrible depth and could use 3 or 4 extra first rounders at the expense of Luck, but they're still going to be finishing bottom 5 waiting for their next chance at a stud QB. Realistically this just doesn't make sense.

Now for the Redskins, if Shanny likes one of Mallett (very unlikely) or Gabbert you draft them at #10. If he doesn't like either of them and feels that he has a better option of finding that guy who can replace Andre Carter in Von Miller or Ryan Kerrigan then you draft him. Imagine if we had drafted Mark Sanchez and not Brian Orakpo.... I can't even describe the amount of pressure Sanchez would have been under and how many analysts would have written him off. Go with what fits our system, we're not in position to take those huge risks unless Gabbert or Mallett have an outstanding day during a pre-draft invite.

If I had any say in this I would go Fairley/Green/Miller/Kerrigan Round 1. Round 2 would be more defense and round 5 would be a project QB behind Rex (Yes I said it..) preferably Pat Devlin.
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Old 01-04-2011, 04:03 PM   #272
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I've heard the Panthers aren't ready to give up on Clausen and will try to build around him.
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I've heard the Panthers aren't ready to give up on Clausen and will try to build around him.
Wait until their new head coach comes aboard.

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Would Claussen be a good fit for the Redskins, if Carolina decides to trade him instead of drafting a QB in the draft? He has a year's experience in the NFL which gives him a head start every rookie except Luck. Any thoughts?
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Would Claussen be a good fit for the Redskins, if Carolina decides to trade him instead of drafting a QB in the draft? He has a year's experience in the NFL which gives him a head start every rookie except Luck. Any thoughts?
I never wanted Clausen in WSH, go with Grossman if thats the case..

BTW Denver wants a 2nd for Orton
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I never wanted Clausen in WSH, go with Grossman if thats the case..
I don't think Grossman is a long term answer. Would Claussen be or is he just another over hypeded QB that came out of college.
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I've heard the Panthers aren't ready to give up on Clausen and will try to build around him.
Sources: Carolina Panthers to pick Andrew Luck if Stanford QB is in NFL draft - ESPN
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I would offer this year's 1st and 2nd rounder + McNabb and Haynesworth and if necessary next year's 1st. See if they listen. The only player I would make that trade for would be Luck, he is worth it.
McNabb & Haynesworth are worth nothing to Carolina. It will take lots of draft picks to get their attention. Based on the draft value chart which is outdated but still a decent guideline, all the draft picks you mention would still leave us a couple hundred points short of the 3000 points that the #1 overall pick is worth. And if luck is as good as advertised then you will need to go above the 3000 points to get their attention.
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Of course they're not going to come out and dismiss the possiblity of drafting him right now. Still a long way to go. The assumption that Clausen is 100% out of the picture isn't true.
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Would Claussen be a good fit for the Redskins, if Carolina decides to trade him instead of drafting a QB in the draft? He has a year's experience in the NFL which gives him a head start every rookie except Luck. Any thoughts?
I would take Claussen if it's at a firesale price but I would not trade anywhere near the 2nd round pick they spent on him.
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McNabb & Haynesworth are worth nothing to Carolina. It will take lots of draft picks to get their attention. Based on the draft value chart which is outdated but still a decent guideline, all the draft picks you mention would still leave us a couple hundred points short of the 3000 points that the #1 overall pick is worth. And if luck is as good as advertised then you will need to go above the 3000 points to get their attention.
I guess it's a moot point, Carolina should draft him.

Sources: Carolina Panthers to pick Andrew Luck if Stanford QB is in NFL draft - ESPN
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I would take Claussen if it's at a firesale price but I would not trade anywhere near the 2nd round pick they spent on him.
Probably wouldn't have to worry about that, his trade value is probably next to nothing.
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Now I kinda wish we went 2-14 LOL Oh well
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I never wanted Clausen in WSH, go with Grossman if thats the case..

BTW Denver wants a 2nd for Orton
Yeah that's not gonna happen considering he's due over $8M next year.
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I would take Claussen if it's at a firesale price but I would not trade anywhere near the 2nd round pick they spent on him.
Do you think he could be better or equal to what is coming out of college with the exception of Luck?
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