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Old 01-06-2011, 01:27 PM   #331
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I think it's safe to say the media's perception and the internal perception from the players are night and day.
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Old 01-06-2011, 01:28 PM   #332
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Here's just one point of view...

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Shanahan's insistence on treating each player the same and playing the best players, regardless of contract or name, was widely embraced inside a locker room that was eager to change a structure that resulted in years of losing.

"The past few years, you had players cussing out the head coach, players doing whatever they wanted to do," Sellers said. "Now that doesn't happen anymore. There's no more prima donnas on the team. We're all just individuals trying to get one goal, and that's to win. It's a nice feeling to have."
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Old 01-06-2011, 01:32 PM   #333
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I love the fact people want to point fingers and place blame. Lets take a look at how the players felt in regards to how everything was handled....

Fredericksburg.com - A new tone--if not new results - page 1 FLS

Nice article.
Good quote that I think shines some new light:

"I wish I would have handled the one in Detroit a little bit differently," Shanahan admitted on Monday. "I should have been a little bit more honest than I was. Sometimes you do things to protect players and at the same time you're actually hurting them."
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Old 01-06-2011, 01:41 PM   #334
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I think Tryon put it best when talking about what the Redskins environment used (emphasis mine) to be like

Redskins Insider - Justin Tryon says playing for Colts is 'night and day' difference from Redskins

Unfortunately it was also like that in 1997,1998,1999,2000,2002, and 2003 as well. not in 2001. I'm guessing not in 2004, 2005, 2006, and 2007.
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Good quote that I think shines some new light:

"I wish I would have handled the one in Detroit a little bit differently," Shanahan admitted on Monday. "I should have been a little bit more honest than I was. Sometimes you do things to protect players and at the same time you're actually hurting them."
I have no problem believing that and I think basically most people thought it was something like this all along. What's the alternative? DM has been stinking it up all year and I need to get some SOB in here that can hit a reciever other than his....feet.
AT LEAST in part was he protecting DM.
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I love the fact people want to point fingers and place blame. Lets take a look at how the players felt in regards to how everything was handled....

Fredericksburg.com - A new tone--if not new results - page 1 FLS

Nice article.
Assuming you were referring to my comments as one of the "people" that "want to point fingers and place blame" I think the article above doesn't change my statements much if at all. In fact Shan admits that he wished he'd handled the mcnabb situation better in the detroit game, so he's accepted some blame.

I also noted that he & Allen set a new tone & made some major changes, but there's only so much that could be done in one year. Just to be clear, I wasn't placing blame for the mcnabb & AH debacles on Shan, but it's clear from this article that Shan. is taking some blame himself. As a head coach he should.

Just to play devil's advocate, there are only a couple guys quoted in this story. While I believe the spirit of the article, there were times this season when the locker room seemed in disarray & the team performed as poorly as it had under Spurrier. Only in 2 games though.
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Old 01-06-2011, 02:24 PM   #337
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Freddy, I didn't mean to single you out and some of what you said is true. Shanahan said right after the first McNabb incident he should have handled it differently. Honestly I don't have a problem with how it was handled. McNabb kept throwing dirt balls or over throwing his receivers. Did anyone think or get the feel McNabb would run our 2 min. drill like Payton Manning runs his? You'd be crazy to think so. Which is why I wondered why it took so long to use Grossman in the last 2 min. of any game previously. What I didn't think was right or fair was throwing in Grossman in the last 2 min. of a game when he has not taken very many reps with the starting team and not thrown a ball in a live game since preseason. It was unfair to Grossman to just throw him in and expect a miracle.

Now the real wonder is did either Shanahan mention to McNabb that he might be replaced for Grossman for the last 3 games and McNabb half listened or did they just seem to over look telling McNabb and made the change on Thurs. of that week? There is two sides to every story and all we've heard is McNabb's cause the Shanahan's are not talking about it.

As far as Haynesworth? I aplaud what they have done. Time to set examples.
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Old 01-06-2011, 02:35 PM   #339
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I love the fact people want to point fingers and place blame. Lets take a look at how the players felt in regards to how everything was handled....

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Nice article.

Didn't the finger pointing start with Shanahan's directed at McNabb?
In fact your feel good article as well as the Washington Post article yesterday Washington Redskins offseason: Upgrading the offense after likely departure of Donovan McNabb
implied that it was mostly McNabb's fault. Kind of a convenient 'this is the major reason why we sucked this year' excuse.

I much prefer what classy Santana Moss said, :"I blame myself before I blame him (McNabb)," said wide receiver Santana Moss, who posted one of the best seasons of his career in 2010. "We all on this team together. Every individual guy should blame himself for what we went through this year. You can't just blame one person."
This should have come from Shanahan the leader of team and coach, not from the WR. Santana Moss is a classy player.
Shanahan shoulders very little of the percentage blame.
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I wonder if Harbaugh is staying too.
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Old 01-06-2011, 02:48 PM   #342
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Whatever, all these articles are nice but they are just words ... to be perfectly honest, I am not going to believe a word out of the players' or coaches mouths until we are a respectable team that makes a habit out of going to the playoffs. Till then, only one thing needs to be said:
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That makes the draft wide open. Maybe if we still don't turn it around this year we can draft Luck next year!!!
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Old 01-06-2011, 03:14 PM   #344
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Ok my point is... the way some people are talking I get the feeling they want to simply blame MS for the whole debacle. Some people are saying the players are unhappy with how things were handled. Maybe they were, maybe they are not. All I'm saying is there are some players there that are happy with how things were being handled, so lets stop pointing fingers, lets get over the fact McNabb was handled wrong, and move on.

I'm happy there is accountability finally, I'm happy everyone is being treated the same, I'm happy with how MS is punishing the players who don't want to practice or aren't performing. I think it's more the media is blowing things up more then it should be just to get reactions.
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Defense, let me ask you this, how much more blame should Shanahan toss on? He's accepted having handled the first benching of McNabb wrong. That's all The blame I'd give him. The Haynesworth issue I feel is all on AH being a prima dona trying to get what he wants and not have to do what his coach has requested of him.

The second benching of McNabb I figured the coach was protecting McNabb from meaningless games. Then all the dirt came out about McNabb not studying or knowing the full playbook. Stats a side you can't tell me Grossman didn't look better simply cause he knew the playbook better.
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