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Old 01-20-2011, 09:46 AM   #391
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Please pick Prince Amurakura from NE. He'll be our best CB since Champ.
I'd rather have Patrick Peterson from LSU if we go CB but he'll be long gone.
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Old 01-20-2011, 10:42 AM   #392
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Mel Kiper's 1st Mock Draft is out, has us taking Cam at #10:

2011 NFL Mock Draft: Mel Kiper looks at what could be a wild first round - ESPN
I appreciate Mel knowledge and perspective...but his mock drafts usually not close. I think alot of teams blow smoke trying to be deceptive when they give him info...last year he got right only 2 of the 32 first round picks.
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Old 01-20-2011, 10:43 AM   #393
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I appreciate Mel knowledge and perspective...but his mock drafts usually not close. I think alot of teams blow smoke trying to be deceptive when they give him info...last year he got right only 2 of the 32 first round picks.
Only 2? But he's a genius right?
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Old 01-20-2011, 10:53 AM   #394
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I appreciate Mel knowledge and perspective...but his mock drafts usually not close. I think alot of teams blow smoke trying to be deceptive when they give him info...last year he got right only 2 of the 32 first round picks.
To me his accuracy isn't a big deal. He's trying to project team needs, player rank, etc

One team, trade, etc can throw off the whole thing
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To me his accuracy isn't a big deal. He's trying to project team needs, player rank, etc

One team, trade, etc can throw off the whole thing
Well yeah, thats why im so excited about him saying we take Cam.
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Old 01-20-2011, 11:22 AM   #396
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Only 2? But he's a genius right?
He got 8 right, including the first 6 overall
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Old 01-20-2011, 11:30 AM   #397
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He got 8 right, including the first 6 overall
he did? curse you steve czaben!!!
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Old 01-20-2011, 11:32 AM   #398
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he did? curse you steve czaben!!!
Maybe Czaban was talking about his first mock? I mean I'm sure Kiper may change his opinion several times between now and April as more info comes in
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Agreed, Locker reeks of Jeff George or Patrick Ramsay futility. All the physical tools for the job but can't get it done for a win.. PASS
Jake Locker played on an absolutly terrible team. Anyone that watchs the games will see that his offensive line is the horrible and his recievers get no seperation. He does not compare to either Jeff George, he has all the intangibles, or Patrick Ramsey, he runs a 4.4 forty and has a rocket for an arm. Ramsey ran a 5 second forty at best and looked like he was wearing concrete shoes. Locker is a QB that has the, feet the arm, the leadership and the desire to be a great QB.

I would be shocked if Shannahan passes him up, if he is there. He is an exact match to what Shannahan likes in a QB. I would like to see us sign Marc Bulger and let him work behind him for two or three years and let him develop like Aron Rogers did.
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Jake Locker played on an absolutly terrible team. Anyone that watchs the games will see that his offensive line is the horrible and his recievers get no seperation. He does not compare to either Jeff George, he has all the intangibles, or Patrick Ramsey, he runs a 4.4 forty and has a rocket for an arm. Ramsey ran a 5 second forty at best and looked like he was wearing concrete shoes. Locker is a QB that has the, feet the arm, the leadership and the desire to be a great QB.

I would be shocked if Shannahan passes him up, if he is there. He is an exact match to what Shannahan likes in a QB. I would like to see us sign Marc Bulger and let him work behind him for two or three years and let him develop like Aron Rogers did.
I agree with everything you just said EXCEPT Bulger, he's old and a backup at best now.. Rex is the guy next yr might as well accept it.. Plus Marc is supposedly going to oakland
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Maybe Czaban was talking about his first mock? I mean I'm sure Kiper may change his opinion several times between now and April as more info comes in
I dont think so, pretty sure it was his final mock...not the first time ive heard wrong info from the morning show. It was just shocking stat...should have known better. Kiper is the man, but I really like the dynamic Espn created between McShay and Kiper, good format and they mix it up well.
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I dont think so, pretty sure it was his final mock...not the first time ive heard wrong info from the morning show. It was just shocking stat...should have known better. Kiper is the man, but I really like the dynamic Espn created between McShay and Kiper, good format and they mix it up well.
Yeah, they're wrong then. Kiper had 8 right and I think McShay might have had 9 in their final mocks
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I think the better approach to evaluating film, especially with a qb, would be: to NOT ONLY watch highlights but also look at he does from play to play in a game and also watch the situational plays that are critical to winning like redzone or plays with blitzes. How does the qb handle himself then?
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I think the better approach to evaluating film, especially with a qb, would be: to NOT ONLY watch highlights but also look at he does from play to play in a game and also watch the situational plays that are critical to winning like redzone or plays with blitzes. How does the qb handle himself then?
Crucial. Youtube highlights tend to showcase only the good plays. To see the troublesome plays, you need to watch the game in its natural flow.
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No secret: Vikings plan to draft a QB - NFL Nation Blog - ESPN

Maybe we can trade down to 12 and pick up another 2nd from Min..
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